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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 15:47:32 GMT
It would hardly be a surprise if they were trying to get PP for houses at some point in the future. In recent memory Hortham Lane has had houses built on the old hospital, a large Jehovah's Witness assembly hall, and also a Plymouth Brethren meeting hall. I often joke that if they'll let JW's and Brethren build there, they'll let anyone 😂😀 Part of the "Colony" site used to be an old sewer works which has long gone, so maybe it could be classed as a "Brown Field" site now... Pun intended What you mean City will be playing there soon?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 15:51:22 GMT
It would hardly be a surprise if they were trying to get PP for houses at some point in the future. In recent memory Hortham Lane has had houses built on the old hospital, a large Jehovah's Witness assembly hall, and also a Plymouth Brethren meeting hall. I often joke that if they'll let JW's and Brethren build there, they'll let anyone 😂😀 Part of the "Colony" site used to be an old sewer works which has long gone, so maybe it could be classed as a "Brown Field" site now... Pun intended That's why we're not moving there. The players have refused to pick up the turds.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 7, 2018 17:49:40 GMT
Because people are more likely to fund a stadium, as it will bring money in. A lot harder to find people to invest in a trading ground. As it won't bring in any revenue. They never said they would fund a stadium, just that funding would be in place. I used to think like that, that a training ground doesn't bring any money in, until I read about Fleetwood. One of the pitches on their training ground is 3G, and it is hired out everyday for others in the community to use. It is not only the income from renting the pitches out, but the revenue raised by having a lot of people using their restaurant/bar/shop. People go there, use the facilities, and spend money. Apparently it brings in 500k a year for them. 3G pitches cost a lot to maintain and need to be redone every so often, if they are used a lot. So don't know how much, you would actually make off them. It's definitely an option though, if the club don't mind others sharing the facilities. Housing is an easier way, to fund it quickly though.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 7, 2018 17:52:35 GMT
I used to think like that, that a training ground doesn't bring any money in, until I read about Fleetwood. One of the pitches on their training ground is 3G, and it is hired out everyday for others in the community to use. It is not only the income from renting the pitches out, but the revenue raised by having a lot of people using their restaurant/bar/shop. People go there, use the facilities, and spend money. Apparently it brings in 500k a year for them. 3G pitches cost a lot to maintain and need to be redone every so often, if they are used a lot. So don't know how much, you would actually make off them. It's definitely an option though, if the club don't mind others sharing the facilities. Housing is an easier way, to fund it quickly though. How much do they charge to make that much in a year?? Can't see they make that much.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 7, 2018 18:01:13 GMT
Location as to also come into it, even for residents for Bradley Stoke etc Hortham Lane isn't the best place to get to, plus there's no nearby schools etc to use it during the day. It's a stupid location for a community sports facility in my view and that why Bristol Combination members voted not to relocate!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 18:41:46 GMT
Hey, I'm just pointing out how Fleetwood make 500k a year on their training pitches.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 8, 2018 8:17:06 GMT
I’ve never understood why we don’t get involved with a local non league club where there are shared facilities for training and playing. We would use the facilities in the week and the non league club get to use it at weekends. The non league sides get superior playing facilities at a more sustainable cost. Costs are halved for both sides and then extra income can be gained from public use. A tie up with academies as well as assisting with loans for the non league club of players from our development squad. It seems to make total sense.
Clevedon Town has an excellent set up already and would be a step up from what we currently have, it could also be expanded. Mangotsfield, Paulton Rovers, Cirencester (bit out of town I know) W-S-M.
Look at the set up AFC Fylde have built for example, it’s far superior to anything that we have.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 8, 2018 9:33:55 GMT
Problem is we're comparing Rovers with clubs who've got owners like Lansdown who's prepared to invest millions in their own clubs. I'm pretty sure the believer's on here were telling us, non believers, Weal's evolution model was far superior in the long term than Lansdown's!
Let's hope DC's given the ALQ's, if it was a full blown Board meeting, with some home truths and explained to them if they don't intend selling the club they need to share their long, or short, term vision with fans, or expect a big decline in season ticket sales and attnedences next season as fans lose interest.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 8, 2018 10:46:20 GMT
Problem is we're comparing Rovers with clubs who've got owners like Lansdown who's prepared to invest millions in their own clubs. I'm pretty sure the believer's on here were telling us, non believers, Weal's evolution model was far superior in the long term than Lansdown's! Let's hope DC's given the ALQ's, if it was a full blown Board meeting, with some home truths and explained to them if they don't intend selling the club they need to share their long, or short, term vision with fans, or expect a big decline in season ticket sales and attnedences next season as fans lose interest. No we aren’t. Plenty of teams with owners and clubs with less income, with smaller fanbases and in lower leagues have twice the facilities as us. Half of L2 clubs for a start. You could shave £1-1.5m off our bottom line for a start by reducing the paid board and hangers on that do nothing, letting the offices in Chelsea go and having a good look at the value of some of the back room team. I wouldn’t be so mad about it if the money that we were losing was giving us a return somewhere else. But it isn’t, it’s being frittered into the dustbin on people that are quite frankly, inept, useless and completely feckless in their ownership and leadership. How about you take the additional £2m loss the ALQs are running up and divert that into a longer term strategy for investment in a training ground. In 4-5 years that would have paid for your training ground. The office in Chelsea would pay for £1.25m of it. Or are the owners and others completely blind to that kind of logic.
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Post by lincsblue on Dec 8, 2018 12:23:53 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M
Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly.
A decent traing ground will attract the better players
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Post by paddingtongas on Dec 8, 2018 13:41:28 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly. A decent traing ground will attract the better players Didn't Lincoln use the proceeds from a FA Cup run to fund it ?
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Post by lincsblue on Dec 10, 2018 1:52:10 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly. A decent traing ground will attract the better players Didn't Lincoln use the proceeds from a FA Cup run to fund it ? Yep, well part of their proceeds, they earnt close to £3M from their FA Cup run
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Post by peterparker on Dec 10, 2018 8:16:38 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly. A decent traing ground will attract the better players It started off with a crowd funding idea and has been funded by their FA Cup run (whatever one of those is)
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Post by geddongas on Dec 10, 2018 8:29:43 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly. A decent traing ground will attract the better players It started off with a crowd funding idea and has been funded by their FA Cup run (whatever one of those is) Well if we win the Checkatrade the combined haul of prize money is like £400k. And nobody takes it (or us) seriously. Desperate times call for desperately fielding a first team for the checkatrade haha
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Post by peterparker on Dec 10, 2018 8:59:57 GMT
It started off with a crowd funding idea and has been funded by their FA Cup run (whatever one of those is) Well if we win the Checkatrade the combined haul of prize money is like £400k. And nobody takes it (or us) seriously. Desperate times call for desperately fielding a first team for the checkatrade haha We shouod try and win the checkatrade as the prize money is useful. We get the money whether anyone turns up or not as it is the PL that is funding it
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 10, 2018 9:05:31 GMT
Well if we win the Checkatrade the combined haul of prize money is like £400k. And nobody takes it (or us) seriously. Desperate times call for desperately fielding a first team for the checkatrade haha We shouod try and win the checkatrade as the prize money is useful. We get the money whether anyone turns up or not as it is the PL that is funding it we should try and win a game full stop,we won’t win the checkatrade we’re not good enough
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Post by geddongas on Dec 10, 2018 9:15:17 GMT
Alternatively, we could start a forum euromillions syndicate and pay off the club’s debts should we win... that’s more likely than some other prospective owner saving us
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 10, 2018 10:13:01 GMT
Well if we win the Checkatrade the combined haul of prize money is like £400k. And nobody takes it (or us) seriously. Desperate times call for desperately fielding a first team for the checkatrade haha We shouod try and win the checkatrade as the prize money is useful. We get the money whether anyone turns up or not as it is the PL that is funding it surely we should try, just winning a game of football? Let alone win a competition, I personally can’t see where our next win is coming from, and I definitely don’t see two on the bounce.
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Post by socrates on Dec 10, 2018 12:08:10 GMT
Lincoln City have a new training ground...it cost 1.3M Lets not forget that the traing ground is the team's "office", as in it gets used daily whereas the stadium is just used fortnightly. A decent traing ground will attract the better players  Didn't Lincoln use the proceeds from a FA Cup run to fund it ? Cup run ? What’s that ?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 10, 2018 12:24:44 GMT
£1.3M? Surely much more than the Al-Qadi family can afford.
They don't have the nouse or willing to "invest" or "speculate to accumulate". If I lived my life without making any significant payments towards things out of my own money in order to invest in a brighter future for myself, I wouldn't get anywhere. Neither will the club if they don't make invest some capital to try to bring us into the 21st century.
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