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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 12, 2018 13:07:52 GMT
Showing respect is showing respect. No one gets to police how someone feels they should show respect for something. A spontaneous round of applause feels pretty respectful to me. Agree with this, not the thing to point-score over. Sure, they didn't do a minutes silence - it was probably a few idiots who decided clapping was a good idea, and instead of shouting "Shut up" at them and causing more disruption, it's easier to just clap along with it I guess. Agree. Remembrance is a personal thing and if some choose not to follow convention then okay. I would rather they remembered and showed respect this way than not at all. Of the things to chastise them over, this is not one.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 12, 2018 13:33:24 GMT
Agree with this, not the thing to point-score over. Sure, they didn't do a minutes silence - it was probably a few idiots who decided clapping was a good idea, and instead of shouting "Shut up" at them and causing more disruption, it's easier to just clap along with it I guess. Agree. Remembrance is a personal thing and if some choose not to follow convention then okay. I would rather they remembered and showed respect this way than not at all. Of the things to chastise them over, this is not one. I couldn't disagree more. Not aimed at the Teds in particular but I just don't see how hard it is to have 2 mins of silence once a year to remember the fallen and reflect on the day the guns fell silent. Applause is to celebrate the lives of people who have passed, sure but how self obsessed have we become that just once a year people cannot do the right thing rather than what they want?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 12, 2018 13:38:44 GMT
Agree. Remembrance is a personal thing and if some choose not to follow convention then okay. I would rather they remembered and showed respect this way than not at all. Of the things to chastise them over, this is not one. I couldn't disagree more. Not aimed at the Teds in particular but I just don't see how hard it is to have 2 mins of silence once a year to remember the fallen and reflect on the day the guns fell silent. Applause is to celebrate the lives of people who have passed, sure but how self obsessed have we become that just once a year people cannot do the right thing rather than what they want? It should have been a 2 minutes silence, I agree with that, but from what has been written here it was not intended to be disrespectful.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 12, 2018 14:01:39 GMT
Agree with this, not the thing to point-score over. Sure, they didn't do a minutes silence - it was probably a few idiots who decided clapping was a good idea, and instead of shouting "Shut up" at them and causing more disruption, it's easier to just clap along with it I guess. Agree. Remembrance is a personal thing and if some choose not to follow convention then okay. I would rather they remembered and showed respect this way than not at all. Of the things to chastise them over, this is not one. Whilst I understand your comment, Remembrance Sunday is not about clapping though is it? It’s known that we don’t have a minutes clap or two minutes clap at the Cenotaph in Whitehall we have a two minute silence. And we have had for the past 99 years. I don’t think it’s too much to expect, on this one occasion in the year, to follow the traditional way of showing respect. If that’s a problem to those few idiots who can’t keep quiet then it’s their problem not the problem of those who know how to behave. As you imply it’s not a major problem but I think it’s good not to chip away at the traditional way of doing things just because a few can’t behave properly. I guess everyone will have their own opinion as to the best way to show respect to people who’ve died in wars. I prefer silence but others..... UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 12, 2018 14:02:55 GMT
I couldn't disagree more. Not aimed at the Teds in particular but I just don't see how hard it is to have 2 mins of silence once a year to remember the fallen and reflect on the day the guns fell silent. Applause is to celebrate the lives of people who have passed, sure but how self obsessed have we become that just once a year people cannot do the right thing rather than what they want? It should have been a 2 minutes silence, I agree with that, but from what has been written here it was not intended to be disrespectful. That I can agree with! 😀 UTG!
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Post by rusho'gas on Nov 12, 2018 14:16:28 GMT
With all respect, I look back on the Coventry game at the Ricoh, during a two minute silence there were numpties in the bar giving it Irene. Lets not be judgemental unless we can honestly prove were are whiter than white here.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 12, 2018 14:36:44 GMT
But tbh he is probably right. When you’re under pressure it’s sometimes easier to play away than home esp with these fans who have the loyalty of a damselfly (very short!!). UTG! Again, you've got to be joking, right? You're picking players or not on the basis of what you hear in a song (or not, if you don't hear a song), and think that's a credible reason to answer above you as to why you lost the match?A match many people watch, and a Club that entrust you to manage? I think that bit was meant to be a joke! I won’t stick up for LJ but my point about preferring to play away when you’re crap at home is a still a valid point imo. We were like that in Autumn 15. But it’s all about the **** so who cares really? 😉 UTG!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 12, 2018 14:56:16 GMT
I couldn't disagree more. Not aimed at the Teds in particular but I just don't see how hard it is to have 2 mins of silence once a year to remember the fallen and reflect on the day the guns fell silent. Applause is to celebrate the lives of people who have passed, sure but how self obsessed have we become that just once a year people cannot do the right thing rather than what they want? It should have been a 2 minutes silence, I agree with that, but from what has been written here it was not intended to be disrespectful. No, I agree it wasn't meant to be, but it still was in my opinion.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 12, 2018 15:13:40 GMT
This is what happens when the bloke who started the clapping has a higher opinion of themselves than the reason they are paying tribute. "I'm going to clap because I'm so woke and different". f**k off bloke.
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Post by legas on Nov 12, 2018 15:24:23 GMT
With all respect, I look back on the Coventry game at the Ricoh, during a two minute silence there were numpties in the bar giving it Irene. Lets not be judgemental unless we can honestly prove were are whiter than white here. That was embarrassing, although to be fair, and despite the best efforts of some in the stand shouting down the tunnel to the concourse to shut up, I genuinely think they were oblivious to the minute’s silence taking place (... and the state they were in, probably oblivious to most things!). Anyone remember the minute’s silince at a derby at AG years ago that went wrong? That was properly scary!
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 12, 2018 15:32:33 GMT
It should have been a 2 minutes silence, I agree with that, but from what has been written here it was not intended to be disrespectful. No, I agree it wasn't meant to be, but it still was in my opinion. I don't disagree with you, it's just that I have witnessed more crass attempts at showing respect and worse behaviour at memorials, sadly.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 12, 2018 17:07:14 GMT
With all respect, I look back on the Coventry game at the Ricoh, during a two minute silence there were numpties in the bar giving it Irene. Lets not be judgemental unless we can honestly prove were are whiter than white here. Istr a silence at the Mem a few years ago, where Nick Day said something on the often inaudible PA about there being a minutes silence soon, and the teams walked to the centre circle and prepared for the silence in complete silence. Then when the ref blew his whistle a load of people just started clapping coz they thought it was the end of the silence, coz we'd already just had about 2 minutes of silence.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Nov 12, 2018 17:59:48 GMT
Difficult to stand there for two minutes and be deep in thought at the sacrifice of those that died and what they stood for when you've got some w**ker clapping in your Dam ear.
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Post by socrates on Nov 12, 2018 19:06:19 GMT
With all respect, I look back on the Coventry game at the Ricoh, during a two minute silence there were numpties in the bar giving it Irene. Lets not be judgemental unless we can honestly prove were are whiter than white here. That was embarrassing, although to be fair, and despite the best efforts of some in the stand shouting down the tunnel to the concourse to shut up, I genuinely think they were oblivious to the minute’s silence taking place (... and the state they were in, probably oblivious to most things!). Anyone remember the minute’s silince at a derby at AG years ago that went wrong? That was properly scary! I don’t remember that what happened ?
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Post by yategasman on Nov 12, 2018 21:23:52 GMT
I remember the Ricoh a bunch of lads came in late and stood up because they couldn’t find their seats when asked to sit down by a fan because he couldn’t see the match he was promptly told to stand up then you Fxxxxxg Pxxxk charming 😱
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Post by gaelgas on Nov 12, 2018 23:10:48 GMT
This is what happens when the bloke who started the clapping has a higher opinion of themselves than the reason they are paying tribute. "I'm going to clap because I'm so woke and different". f**k off bloke. Couldn't put it better myself. The minute/two minutes silence is intended for us to reflect on the sacrifices others made, to take a moment to think about what it must have been like to go through what those men went through, I fail to see how that can be done when 20,000 people are clapping. It just seems like attention seeking to me. A couple of times I've been in public places at 11 and an announcement has been made that the two minutes silence was about to start and everyone just stopped what they were doing, workers and public alike, heads bowed, silent contemplation, incredibly moving, as it should be.
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Post by legas on Nov 13, 2018 9:21:53 GMT
That was embarrassing, although to be fair, and despite the best efforts of some in the stand shouting down the tunnel to the concourse to shut up, I genuinely think they were oblivious to the minute’s silence taking place (... and the state they were in, probably oblivious to most things!). Anyone remember the minute’s silince at a derby at AG years ago that went wrong? That was properly scary! I don’t remember that what happened ? If my memory is correct it was an evening game in the league I assume. One of their directors had died and they started a minute’s silence but a small group in the away end (and it could only have been 4 or 5 people) started singing. Straight away other gasheads were shouting out them to shut up but that just created even more noise. This was when we were housed in the open end next to the Dolman, which went absolutely mental. Of course, even though it was some of our fans who started it all, we weren’t going take any crap from city and so gave it back and it all descended into chaos. I’ve never heard ‘you’re gonna get your **** heads kicked in’ sung with such meaning and intent before. I think we lost and I remember for the only time ever feeling ever so slightly relieved. I don’t know what year it was but Ollie gave an interview after and called us a disgrace, so could have been in his early days as player manager maybe? Might have been even earlier than that. Anyone else remember that game or have I just dreamt it?!
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Post by scoobydoogas on Nov 13, 2018 10:51:09 GMT
I think it was Des Williams, their Chairman at the time. Good mates with Steve Lansdowne apparently.
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 13, 2018 12:33:30 GMT
I don’t remember that what happened ? If my memory is correct it was an evening game in the league I assume. One of their directors had died and they started a minute’s silence but a small group in the away end (and it could only have been 4 or 5 people) started singing. Straight away other gasheads were shouting out them to shut up but that just created even more noise. This was when we were housed in the open end next to the Dolman, which went absolutely mental. Of course, even though it was some of our fans who started it all, we weren’t going take any crap from city and so gave it back and it all descended into chaos. I’ve never heard ‘you’re gonna get your **** heads kicked in’ sung with such meaning and intent before. I think we lost and I remember for the only time ever feeling ever so slightly relieved. I don’t know what year it was but Ollie gave an interview after and called us a disgrace, so could have been in his early days as player manager maybe? Might have been even earlier than that. Anyone else remember that game or have I just dreamt it?! Our fans will have the opportunity to show due respect when the Club hold their annual on-pitch Act of Remembrance this Saturday; the ceremony at the gates last Friday was extremely well attended. ALL GAVE SOME SOME GAVE ALL LEST WE FORGET
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Post by blueblood1883 on Nov 14, 2018 6:00:51 GMT
A lot of back slapping going on over there because they've sold 130 tickets for there trip to Ipswich.. Some bellend quoted it as "top support" allegedly... You seriously couldn't make it up...
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