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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 26, 2018 9:14:27 GMT
Lots of finger pointing at lots of people on here.
What do you think is the primary problem at Rovers?
Hani and Wael?
The people on the board who have been appointed to run the club for our absent owners?
DC. Tactics and signings just not good enough?
The players? Are they putting a shift in?
Fans. Have we all got a bit up ourselves and somewhat entitled?
Or is it a bit of everything?
You can select all 6 answers like I did if you so feel inclined.
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Post by allgasandgaiters on Nov 26, 2018 9:22:31 GMT
Owners and Board for me - massively raised expectations with the fans, (and clearly the manager too,) and have failed to deliver. Please sell us soon.
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2018 9:32:39 GMT
Lots of finger pointing at lots of people on here. What do you think is the primary problem at Rovers? Hani and Wael? The people on the board who have been appointed to run the club for our absent owners? DC. Tactics and signings just not good enough? The players? Are they putting a shift in? Fans. Have we all got a bit up ourselves and somewhat entitled? Or is it a bit of everything? You can select all 6 answers like I did if you so feel inclined. A bit of everything . Crazy to point the finger at one thing. Rudderless board Poor tactics Poor signings Bad luck I could go on.
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Post by axegas on Nov 26, 2018 9:36:19 GMT
The players for me, most have been underperforming, inconsistent or mentally weak for most of the season. For what was spent in the summer, we should be above where we are now. They are going to have to perform much better if we are to get out of our current predicament.
The board are at fault for reasons off the pitch and I’m not happy with many of the answers they’ve provided for that but most of our current problems ie poor form in the league, cup humiliation, falling attendances ect is down to the players
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 26, 2018 9:38:16 GMT
Got to be the players
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Post by thegasman on Nov 26, 2018 9:40:57 GMT
So if you are a player and been promised: training ground/stadium/push for promotion etc and all those things do not come to fuition, hpow do you feel? Put another way if you are at work, and you are promised a pay rise, better working conditions, nice new office/van etc and those things don't happen, how would you feel? Still want to give your heart and soul to the company?
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 26, 2018 9:45:14 GMT
We got fckd over by the Greyhound Company, and never recovered.
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Post by Severncider on Nov 26, 2018 9:48:41 GMT
You can't blame the players, they are just not good enough, that's not their fault.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 26, 2018 9:52:34 GMT
Bit of everything. It'd be wrong to point the finger solely at the board, but I think their directionless and hopeless approach will have had a knock on effect on DC and the players. Morale is a massive part of sport, and when the behind the scenes aspect of the club is so poor, it's inevitable that the playing side will eventually suffer. That is not to say that the players and DC are blameless. I still back DC though, but I no longer have confidence that the board and owners will do what's right for the club.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 26, 2018 9:56:27 GMT
Players are No1 issue for me, all capable of better. That they aren't delivering is, I suspect, due to lack of leadership and support from the top, so owners also in that mix. Although I do also wonder to what extent this is an issue between players and DC, even if it didn't start there, that's where it seems to be heading given his interview on Saturday. So I am worried he may have lost the support of his team, which would be very hard to recover - whose fault is that? Not sure if there is a Campbell type player emerging as a cuckoo in the nest. Anyone got any inside track? I can only imagine the spine of the changing room supporting DC being Sincs, Lines, Locks, Clark, but are they strong enough in face of the newbies?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 26, 2018 10:05:33 GMT
So if you are a player and been promised: training ground/stadium/push for promotion etc and all those things do not come to fuition, hpow do you feel? Put another way if you are at work, and you are promised a pay rise, better working conditions, nice new office/van etc and those things don't happen, how would you feel? Still want to give your heart and soul to the company?
You can lead a horse to water (or in our case Donkeys), but you can't force them to drink
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 10:05:46 GMT
On the face of it, DC - poor signings. But then I don’t know what budget he has. Conversely, other smaller clubs seem to be doing alright.
Lots of factors but the club does well when we have a good team getting results. We aren’t. DC just hasn’t created a team with any attacking threat.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 26, 2018 10:06:41 GMT
Players are No1 issue for me, all capable of better. That they aren't delivering is, I suspect, due to lack of leadership and support from the top, so owners also in that mix. Although I do also wonder to what extent this is an issue between players and DC, even if it didn't start there, that's where it seems to be heading given his interview on Saturday. So I am worried he may have lost the support of his team, which would be very hard to recover - whose fault is that? Not sure if there is a Campbell type player emerging as a cuckoo in the nest. Anyone got any inside track? I can only imagine the spine of the changing room supporting DC being Sincs, Lines, Locks, Clark, but are they strong enough in face of the newbies? Also lack of leadership in the field of play..... If Mans was still playing we would not be in this position
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Post by Marshy on Nov 26, 2018 10:08:57 GMT
I blame my 1st wife, she was a bitch!
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 26, 2018 10:12:18 GMT
No direction from the owners, board aren’t they the same? If you mean Hamer, he’s just a mouthpiece for the owners. DC has to take a share of the blame, tactics and recruitment not the best this season. Some players don’t seem interested. We’ve also had some very bad luck, had that pen been given against Barnet and we’d won and we’d been looking at playing Stockport it would be different but it isn’t. Fans, not so sure but in the Thatchers last week a few next to me seemed pleased when Barnet scored although perhaps it was just gallows humour. Fans usually reflect what’s going on on the field so not really their fault but one or two probably don’t help. A bit of everything then! More to the point, to get out of this mess needs everyone to do what they do a bit better, owners, DC, players and fans and also hope our luck turns and we get a bit of the rub of the green. And preferably a referee or two who can see a foul from three yards! UTG!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 26, 2018 10:12:39 GMT
I blame my 1st wife, she was a bitch! Maybe it's time to think about getting a divorce.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 10:13:29 GMT
Owners and Board for me - massively raised expectations with the fans, (and clearly the manager too,) and have failed to deliver. Please sell us soon. Whilst they've made mistakes for sure, there's no doubt that a big proportion of our fan base got far too carried away following the takeover. The owners have never one stated there would be big investment in the playing squad and always stressed the evolution of the club. It's not worked as we'd have liked to date. I suspect that if we were in or around the top six and our £500k+ strike duo were scoring for fun then the current mood around the club would be okay. I'm behind DC but he has to take a big part of the responsibility for how this season has materialised. It's ultimately his squad and playing staff and he has been backed.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 26, 2018 10:13:55 GMT
No direction from the owners, board aren’t they the same? If you mean Hamer, he’s just a mouthpiece for the owners. DC has to take a share of the blame, tactics and recruitment not the best this season. Some players don’t seem interested. We’ve also had some very bad luck, had that pen been given against Barnet and we’d won and we’d been looking at playing Stockport it would be different but it isn’t. Fans, not so sure but in the Thatchers last week a few next to me seemed pleased when Barnet scored although perhaps it was just gallows humour. Fans usually reflect what’s going on on the field so not really their fault but one or two probably don’t help. A bit of everything then! More to the point, to get out of this mess needs everyone to do what they do a bit better, owners, DC, players and fans and also hope our luck turns and we get a bit of the rub of the green. And preferably a referee or two who can see a foul from three yards! UTG! No, by The Board I am asking if the people put in charge of the club are actually performing well enough in the owners absence.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 26, 2018 10:15:18 GMT
I blame my 1st wife, she was a bitch! Maybe it's time to think about getting a divorce. I did, I’m on my 3rd now.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 26, 2018 10:20:07 GMT
I think DC has to take some of the blame although with a little more luck we could be quite a few points above the relegation zone IMO. It has to only be a matter of time before hitting the bar/post results in a few goals?
That said, it's hard to blame DC too much when you look at what's going on above him. SH's interview the other day was anything other than a confidence boost, and with all the broken promises DC hinted at in his interview he's got to be wondering why he stayed and thinking about leaving at the next opportunity. SH said the relationship with DC is great but how come SH is coming out and saying one thing and then DC is openly criticising those above him and nothing is ever done about it? Means there's something too it.
After the Barnet defeat I said I wanted DC out which MidlandsGas loved. It wasn't because DC is a poor manager it's because DC has done so much for us that he deserves better than to sink with this mess of a club. I think the players we got ARE good enough but are mentally weak. A couple of back to back wins will set us on our way but it's just getting those wins. We go 1-0 down and it's like we've already lost. DC teams of old were always mentally strong and we could be 2-0 down going into the final 10 and I'd still be confident we'd get back into it.
I believe WAQ had good intentions and still does have the right intentions, but unfortunately, the family doesn't feel the same.
So I voted for the players. We have to work with what we got and they're not delivering.
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