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Post by WeAreTheGas on Dec 9, 2018 12:12:42 GMT
How much are you expecting the budget to go up by when £1m+ is cut across the club over the next 12 months? Says who? The same sources that said they were putting in no more money and not paying bills, over a year ago?? Or the ones that said we were sold already?? Even though they were putting in no more money and not paying bills, the budget went up. How does that work?? Got to love people posting things on here, Facebook etc, like they are facts. Nope, says the man who spends the budget.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Dec 9, 2018 13:23:40 GMT
Whatever your take on investment and evolution/revolution their comms have been pretty dire. I don't expect weekly bulletins but with what is happening on the field and DC's increasingly obvious frustration the silence from the board is deafening and unprofessional. Like it or not football is a unique business and the fans as unofficial shareholders deserve to hear more from the decision makers and purse string holders. As always, we will still be here after the board, manager and players have moved on.
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Post by baggins on Dec 9, 2018 13:41:35 GMT
Whatever your take on investment and evolution/revolution their comms have been pretty dire. I don't expect weekly bulletins but with what is happening on the field and DC's increasingly obvious frustration the silence from the board is deafening and unprofessional. Like it or not football is a unique business and the fans as unofficial shareholders deserve to hear more from the decision makers and purse string holders. As always, we will still be here after the board, manager and players have moved on. Unfortunately, just being paying through the turnstiles means you deserve to hear nothing from the owners.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 9, 2018 15:52:32 GMT
Whatever your take on investment and evolution/revolution their comms have been pretty dire. I don't expect weekly bulletins but with what is happening on the field and DC's increasingly obvious frustration the silence from the board is deafening and unprofessional. Like it or not football is a unique business and the fans as unofficial shareholders deserve to hear more from the decision makers and purse string holders. As always, we will still be here after the board, manager and players have moved on. NH gave us a weekly, or was it biweekly?, newsletter but that didn't stop him taking us to the edge of administration. I'm not sure what the answer is, ownership wise, as if the ALQ's said we were for sale tomorrow I'm not sure we'll get any better owners, as depressing as that sounds. What we want is a multi million prepared to spend £50m of his own money buying the club, building a stadium and a training complex, whilst investing in the team, but how likely is that to happen. I can't really see Ed Ware being able to do it as, if he can, then why didn't he do something before the ALQ's took over.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 9, 2018 17:33:16 GMT
What? Never said sold. Like others I know of people interested in a takeover. Check what I wrote. Takeovers come, takeovers go. Some succeed, others fail. Yates was employed by the club at a senior level until recently. He was talking about what he knows of the people at the club (they are still here) and the situation. You presumably know little about football if you think that everyone knows nothing. Never said wael wasn't interested. He just doesn't have the money, the backing or the experience. And if you own 92% of something there are not many people around you (shareholders/ to ask for help. You said it will happen in October. That's not just general interest. No I didn't. Said people would like to takeover BRFC and believe it will be concluded by end of oct. Hasn't happened. So what. Loads of plans discussions in life never get finalised, or get delayed.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 9, 2018 17:48:34 GMT
Bottom line for me is the board either need to back DC with funds in the January window, or sack him.
From the outside it seems like they are waiting for the other to make the first move.
I've said before that direction comes from the very top and the silence from the very top is deafening.
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Dec 9, 2018 17:57:29 GMT
I've said before that direction comes from the very top and the silence from the very top is deafening. When I was a kid, there used to be a little sign up on the wall in the Dental Hospital which read 'We, the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing so much for so long with so little that we are now capable of doing almost anything with next to nothing'. I wish the last of it was true at BRFC because it's scary how often they've reminded me of the rest of it
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 9, 2018 18:47:04 GMT
You said it will happen in October. That's not just general interest. No I didn't. Said people would like to takeover BRFC and believe it will be concluded by end of oct. Hasn't happened. So what. Loads of plans discussions in life never get finalised, or get delayed. DC himself said he does not know what goes on behind the scenes and that he did not know about the last takeover. But Steve Yates knows everything. I have worked for a professional football club before. After Steve Yates left, the budget was increased due the third year in a row, DC has admitted that. But the old defensive coach, knows more than the manager. No wonder we are struggling!! What do you do at our club?? That gives you this greater knowledge. All you have ever done is slag of the board, since you joined.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 9, 2018 18:50:11 GMT
Takeover happening, will be done by late October you said. What went wrong?
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Post by gas2 on Dec 9, 2018 18:55:55 GMT
Anybody remember when Atkins and co came here brought in 7new players we stayed up think we need the same now a manager with fire and passion
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Post by Centenary Gas on Dec 9, 2018 19:35:32 GMT
Raise the budget every season? They are making a 7 figure cut next season. Maybe if those at the top didn’t go MIA when the going gets tough, you would have some answers to your ‘don’t know’s [br They raised it the last 3 season's, including this season. Even though they were not putting in any more money and not paying the bills lol. Will believe the cuts, when I see them. As so far, when people have said that, the opposite has happened lol What money have they put in? Running up a debt and putting money in are not the same.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 9, 2018 19:37:59 GMT
[br They raised it the last 3 season's, including this season. Even though they were not putting in any more money and not paying the bills lol. Will believe the cuts, when I see them. As so far, when people have said that, the opposite has happened lol What money have they put in? Running up a debt and putting money in are not the same. The debt is within the club. So unless they sell the club, they have put the money in. If they sell it, they will probably want it wiped. If it's as easy as that, you take over as cover the costs 😉
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Post by Centenary Gas on Dec 9, 2018 19:50:46 GMT
What money have they put in? Running up a debt and putting money in are not the same. The debt is within the club. So unless they sell the club, they have put the money in. If they sell it, they will probably want it wiped. If it's as easy as that, you take over as cover the costs 😉 Keep deluding yourself all you like, although I suspect you’re just trying to be difficult for some reason. I do hope we are all wrong and they turn a corner, quickly.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 9, 2018 19:55:32 GMT
[br They raised it the last 3 season's, including this season. Even though they were not putting in any more money and not paying the bills lol. Will believe the cuts, when I see them. As so far, when people have said that, the opposite has happened lol What money have they put in? Running up a debt and putting money in are not the same. Where do you think the money has come from?
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Post by Centenary Gas on Dec 9, 2018 19:57:35 GMT
What money have they put in? Running up a debt and putting money in are not the same. Where do you think the money has come from? Originally when they bought the club, obviously then. Since then they have just been running up debt against the Mem, no? Would be happy to be wrong on that of course.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 9, 2018 20:04:14 GMT
The debt is within the club. So unless they sell the club, they have put the money in. If they sell it, they will probably want it wiped. If it's as easy as that, you take over as cover the costs 😉 Keep deluding yourself all you like, although I suspect you’re just trying to be difficult for some reason. I do hope we are all wrong and they turn a corner, quickly. I'm not being awkward, they are paying for it. If you take out a mortgage against your house, is it free money??? They are paying, if they still you the club, it will be deducted, so they are still paying for it now. So they didn't need to increase the budget. As they are paying for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 21:05:34 GMT
Anybody remember when Atkins and co came here brought in 7new players we stayed up think we need the same now a manager with fire and passion Fair to say we have one of those already. Not sure we will find one with more of either of those attributes.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 9, 2018 21:17:02 GMT
Where do you think the money has come from? Originally when they bought the club, obviously then. Since then they have just been running up debt against the Mem, no? Would be happy to be wrong on that of course. They did not pay for the shares those were gifted to them by the shareholders. On acquiring Bristol Rovers 1883 Ltd Dwane Sports provided that company with a loan which was used to pay off the previous shareholders loans and bonds and the MSP Capital loan. Every penny used to acquire the club and fund it's trading losses has come from the Dwane Sports loan or the sale of assets (players).
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Post by lpgas on Dec 9, 2018 21:18:12 GMT
Says who? The same sources that said they were putting in no more money and not paying bills, over a year ago?? Or the ones that said we were sold already?? Even though they were putting in no more money and not paying bills, the budget went up. How does that work?? Got to love people posting things on here, Facebook etc, like they are facts. Nope, says the man who spends the budget. you mean wastes the budget
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 9, 2018 21:20:10 GMT
Anybody remember when Atkins and co came here brought in 7new players we stayed up think we need the same now a manager with fire and passion Fair to say we have one of those already. Not sure we will find one with more of either of those attributes. seems to me dc is losing the plot similar to morinho,love the bloke but he’s is like the team was yesterday a wounded animal ready and waiting to be finished off
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