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Post by pirate on Dec 17, 2018 22:43:22 GMT
Really don’t see why Hurst is second on our poll. DC’s best man is hardly going to come here after what’s happened Holloway till the end of the season wouldn’t be the end of the world as things can’t get much worse, but long term we need to think forward. Doubt Ollie would come here under the current ownership either Are DC and Hurst really that close? I'm not sure where that has come from.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 17, 2018 22:44:04 GMT
I’ll get behind whoever is appointed but I’m not sure that an inexperienced, younger manager is such a bad thing. Those who say in our current position we need someone who is experienced but I’m not so sure. Sometimes that experience is more a long-standing thing of the one experience being repeated several times and younger less experienced candidates may have a wide experience of many different teams and coaching experiences. And in the end you get no guarantees about success whoever you appoint. I’d love Mourinho (actually I wouldn’t) because he has won many things. But his experience is so far outside our current position that he would never be able to cope with what he would have to do or the limitations he would have to work within. His usual answer of spending millions would be useless, his knowledge of leagues 1 or 2 or National would be less than mine. He wouldn’t have a host of coaches to do the leg work on the training ground. My point is experience is only important if it is the experience that is relevant to us and younger candidates from League 2 or the National May have that in spades. UTG!
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 17, 2018 22:52:18 GMT
I’ll get behind whoever is appointed but I’m not sure that an inexperienced, younger manager is such a bad thing. Those who say in our current position we need someone who is experienced but I’m not so sure. Sometimes that experience is more a long-standing thing of the one experience being repeated several times and younger less experienced candidates may have a wide experience of many different teams and coaching experiences. And in the end you get no guarantees about success whoever you appoint. I’d love Mourinho (actually I wouldn’t) because he has won many things. But his experience is so far outside our current position that he would never be able to cope with what he would have to do or the limitations he would have to work within. His usual answer of spending millions would be useless, his knowledge of leagues 1 or 2 or National would be less than mine. He wouldn’t have a host of coaches to do the leg work on the training ground. My point is experience is only important if it is the experience that is relevant to us and younger candidates from League 2 or the National May have that in spades. UTG! i would have Jose any day over the whole list,I’m sure he could cope in div 1 😂
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Post by pirate on Dec 17, 2018 22:57:32 GMT
How the **** has Robbie Fowler got more votes than someone like Michael Appleton, who has taken Oxford to promotion, two EFL Trophy finals and signed the likes of Kemar Roofe and Marvin Johnson for peanuts and sold them on for millions? Staggering.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 17, 2018 23:00:53 GMT
I’ll get behind whoever is appointed but I’m not sure that an inexperienced, younger manager is such a bad thing. Those who say in our current position we need someone who is experienced but I’m not so sure. Sometimes that experience is more a long-standing thing of the one experience being repeated several times and younger less experienced candidates may have a wide experience of many different teams and coaching experiences. And in the end you get no guarantees about success whoever you appoint. I’d love Mourinho (actually I wouldn’t) because he has won many things. But his experience is so far outside our current position that he would never be able to cope with what he would have to do or the limitations he would have to work within. His usual answer of spending millions would be useless, his knowledge of leagues 1 or 2 or National would be less than mine. He wouldn’t have a host of coaches to do the leg work on the training ground. My point is experience is only important if it is the experience that is relevant to us and younger candidates from League 2 or the National May have that in spades. UTG! i would have Jose any day over the whole list,I’m sure he could cope in div 1 😂 Perhaps he might!! But I don’t think we will find out.😉 But let’s be honest if we were surprised about DC calling out the owners just imagine what Jose would do. My point was about getting the right manager with the right coaching and man management skills and thinking that it doesn’t need an “experienced” older manager. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 17, 2018 23:03:26 GMT
How the **** has Robbie Fowler got more votes than someone like Michael Appleton, who has taken Oxford to promotion, two EFL Trophy finals and signed the likes of Kemar Roofe and Marvin Johnson for peanuts and sold them on for millions? Staggering. Probably because they think because he’s a PL player and played for Liverpool he must be better than someone who has promotions and a record of solid achievement. Crazy! UTG!
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Post by syg on Dec 17, 2018 23:07:24 GMT
How the **** has Robbie Fowler got more votes than someone like Michael Appleton, who has taken Oxford to promotion, two EFL Trophy finals and signed the likes of Kemar Roofe and Marvin Johnson for peanuts and sold them on for millions? Staggering. Very little to do with probability of getting the job, and everthing to do with where the money goes or they want it to go. People see R fowler and back it. Bookies love manager books, easy money, chop and change, steady stream of bets for a few weeks, quite often with the job going to someone who wasn't priced up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 23:21:08 GMT
How the **** has Robbie Fowler got more votes than someone like Michael Appleton, who has taken Oxford to promotion, two EFL Trophy finals and signed the likes of Kemar Roofe and Marvin Johnson for peanuts and sold them on for millions? Staggering. Can't say Appleton particularly appeals but agree with your general point. Just can't see any merit in Fowler at all. That said, the list ia pretty uninspiring. No obvious candidate so I say go with young and upcoming as it seems generally to have served us well. Garner, Flynn and um...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 1:43:38 GMT
I think the owners are hoping they can appoint coughlan until the end of the season,they just need a couple of wins to make it credible. Im not attacking coughlan or the owners i just feel its the truth.
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Post by tecallaghan on Dec 18, 2018 3:34:10 GMT
I honestly think whoever we get won't do anything special without a miracle given the state of the club, but my heart would always be Ollie. Realistically, it has to be someone who can work without money and has desire to succeed so someone newer to the game isn't such a bad idea in my eyes. Someone not tainted by negativity. But, I have to honestly say that list doesn't really excite me much.
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Post by kruger on Dec 18, 2018 6:16:36 GMT
Has Holloway even hinted that he would be interested?
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Post by lympstonegas on Dec 18, 2018 7:44:20 GMT
I think the owners are hoping they can appoint coughlan until the end of the season,they just need a couple of wins to make it credible. Im not attacking coughlan or the owners i just feel its the truth. I agree. If and a big if they splashed out in being prepared to pay a current working manager off my first choice would be Nigel Clough and second Paul Tisdale. There my list ends !
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Post by GasAttacK on Dec 18, 2018 8:45:02 GMT
Hurst would be my first choice. Great success at every club he's maanged until his short stint at Ipswich. At least a couple of promotions on his CV and most importantly has experience of saving a team from a similar position to ours when he helped Shrewsbury escape the drop in 2016/17 before leading them to a 3rd place finish the following year.
Appleton would be my second choice. Still only 42 but seems to be improving as a manager since taking over at Portsmouth when he was just 35. Had great success at Oxford who are a similar size club to ourselves, leading them to an 8th place L1 finish in his last year in charge before moving on to the assistants job at Leicester.
Holloway would probably be my third choice. Hasn't achieved the same win percentage as Hurst or Appleton but has had success with unfancied clubs. Of course he'd also be very popular with a lot of fans and maybe his love for the club and enthusiam is what we need right now.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 18, 2018 10:12:57 GMT
I’ll get behind whoever is appointed but I’m not sure that an inexperienced, younger manager is such a bad thing. Those who say in our current position we need someone who is experienced but I’m not so sure. Sometimes that experience is more a long-standing thing of the one experience being repeated several times and younger less experienced candidates may have a wide experience of many different teams and coaching experiences. And in the end you get no guarantees about success whoever you appoint. I’d love Mourinho (actually I wouldn’t) because he has won many things. But his experience is so far outside our current position that he would never be able to cope with what he would have to do or the limitations he would have to work within. His usual answer of spending millions would be useless, his knowledge of leagues 1 or 2 or National would be less than mine. He wouldn’t have a host of coaches to do the leg work on the training ground. My point is experience is only important if it is the experience that is relevant to us and younger candidates from League 2 or the National May have that in spades. UTG! i would have Jose any day over the whole list,I’m sure he could cope in div 1 😂 Hey!! We could find out now.😉 UTG!
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Post by GasLass on Dec 18, 2018 10:40:42 GMT
I voted Paul Hurst, Mark Warburton and Brian McDermott
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Post by Marshy on Dec 18, 2018 10:42:48 GMT
I voted Paul Hurst, Mark Warburton and Brian McDermott I voted; Darrell Clarke, Darrell Clarke and Darrell Clarke.
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Post by GasLass on Dec 18, 2018 10:44:52 GMT
I voted Paul Hurst, Mark Warburton and Brian McDermott I voted; Darrell Clarke, Darrell Clarke and Darrell Clarke.
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 18, 2018 12:36:22 GMT
i would have Jose any day over the whole list,I’m sure he could cope in div 1 😂 Hey!! We could find out now.😉 UTG! 😂
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Post by baggins on Dec 18, 2018 13:15:28 GMT
It's me. Yes, me. I'm the new Manager.
Complete crap but cheap as a sausage roll.
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Post by tecallaghan on Dec 18, 2018 22:33:17 GMT
I think the owners are hoping they can appoint coughlan until the end of the season,they just need a couple of wins to make it credible. Im not attacking coughlan or the owners i just feel its the truth. I mean, from a logistical point of view I would argue that unless they have someone lined up ready to go for January then sticking with the interim team of Coughlan, Hargreaves and Dutton until the end of the season may be the best way until we find someone we have faith to take us forward for the next five years. Whoever we get in has either got to work a miracle or revamp this team in January and it might just not work, as defeatist as that will sound (certainly a view I hate to take, as I would always advocate fighting our way at all costs).
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