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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2018 20:54:04 GMT
As each game passes by with a win. It is becoming more and more likely that GC will be the chosen one. I can see him getting the gig after the Burton game, that then gives him and the rest of the coaching setup, the whole of the month to assess the squad and look at who we want to get rid of and bring in.
I certainly can't see us bringing anybody else in now as it will be more costly and fans will go mad if the new gaffer came in and started poorly. It's a funny old game though as if the board had given GC the job straight after DC had gone, then I think there would have been a lot of angry fans thinking the board have gone with the cheap option (me included to be fair).
Me personally, I would definitely give it to him if we beat Burton but only until the end of the season as it keeps that carrot there. I'm also not fully convinced yet. As good as our results have been, teams often get a natural bounce when a manager leaves. GC and the players are giving him the best possible chance though of getting it.
What do you think?
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Post by yattongas on Dec 29, 2018 20:58:00 GMT
I think .... if he gets the job then loses a couple of games lots of people will start spouting we went for the cheap option. If he does really well lots of people will say they knew he would be a success. That’s footy fans. Happy new year everyone 👍
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Post by Fat Albert on Dec 29, 2018 21:01:52 GMT
I think you are right about one thing- fans are extremely fickle in these instances. If it had been given straight to GC there would have been outrage amongst a lot of fans.
It would be nice if this gets remembered in the future, but it won’t!
UTG
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 29, 2018 21:06:36 GMT
Give him the reins until the end of the season, then reasses. I’m not 100% he’s the man to take us forward in the long run, but that’s only because he is a complete unknown and he is yet to be tested over a period of time. You can’t judge a manager on 3 games. Lose the next 3 and it’s a different story.
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Post by socrates on Dec 29, 2018 21:16:42 GMT
Coggers is the man to keep us up that I’m 99% sure of , who can take a mid table budget league 1 squad to the championship with promotion next season I’m not sure but maybe he’s got as much chance as Holloway , Cotterill hurst etc who knows. Give the man, alongside Hargreaves and his other staff until end of the season and if all is going well then obviously a contract extension will happen. Graham Coggers barmy army!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:21:13 GMT
We were already relegated under dc in my eyes! This guy has the fight and has given us a fighting chance - imo without this very timely turn of form - we’d 100% be going down! We owe him the chance to finish the job as without him - there wouldn’t be a job to try to do! UTG! 💙
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:24:29 GMT
Coggers is the man to keep us up that I’m 99% sure of , who can take a mid table budget league 1 squad to the championship with promotion next season I’m not sure but maybe he’s got as much chance as Holloway , Cotterill hurst etc who knows. Give the man, alongside Hargreaves and his other staff until end of the season and if all is going well then obviously a contract extension will happen. Graham Coggers barmy army! Socrates...I do wish you'd stop mentioning Cotterill. I was having a good day until then! Agree with you though!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2018 21:29:02 GMT
Talking about managers, what a massive game NYD...Plymouth vs Oxford. If either team loses that, then I could see them sacking their manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:39:11 GMT
Talking about managers, what a massive game NYD...Plymouth vs Oxford. If either team loses that, then I could see them sacking their manager. I’ll take a draw then
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Post by Russgas on Dec 29, 2018 21:39:12 GMT
Talking about managers, what a massive game NYD...Plymouth vs Oxford. If either team loses that, then I could see them sacking their manager. Let's hope we get a draw then.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 29, 2018 21:39:15 GMT
Let’s see what happens with Burton.
The fixture list/games have been pretty fortunate to him:
Sunderland (don’t get thrashed and show some fight) Fleetwood (10 men and 94th minute goal) Walsall (think they were on a mini losing streak/really poor form) Oxford (poor team)
You can only beat what’s in front of you though that’s for sure. Today I don’t think we were great but did what was needed.
I’d personally like GC as the assistant manager
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2018 21:46:19 GMT
Let’s see what happens with Burton. The fixture list/games have been pretty fortunate to him: Sunderland (don’t get thrashed and show some fight) Fleetwood (10 men and 94th minute goal) Walsall (think they were on a mini losing streak/really poor form) Oxford (poor team) You can only beat what’s in front of you though that’s for sure. Today I don’t think we were great but did what was needed. I’d personally like GC as the assistant manager but are you going to say the same about Burton if we beat them? Couldn't beat bottom of the league at home in their last game etc...
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Post by justin blue on Dec 29, 2018 21:47:18 GMT
Everyone saying give it to Coughlan till the end of the season and it sounds like a perfect solution. I don't think it's as easy as that. If he does not get the job next season he will be jobless, I think he is going to want a bit more security than that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:49:05 GMT
Everyone saying give it to Coughlan till the end of the season and it sounds like a perfect solution. I don't think it's as easy as that. If he does not get the job next season he will be jobless, I think he is going to want a bit more security than that. in that case make it conditional of staying up - deal is contract til end of the season - stay up and you’ll get a 12 month rolling contract guaranteed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:50:13 GMT
We learnt the lesson with players / now time to learn from dc’s silly contract!
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 29, 2018 21:57:02 GMT
Although on face of it, decision now seems easy, I’d be surprised if it’s that simple. Based on last 4 games he looks to be in driving seat, but we don’t know what he’s after or what others are offering / after. GC is no fool and will be making big demands I’m sure, and keeping him as interim on small money with no cash to spend probably not gonna cut it, esp with arguably his most vital players at risk. Gonna be an interesting few weeks
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2018 21:59:25 GMT
Although on face of it, decision now seems easy, I’d be surprised if it’s that simple. Based on last 4 games he looks to be in driving seat, but we don’t know what he’s after or what others are offering / after. GC is no fool and will be making big demands I’m sure, and keeping him as interim on small money with no cash to spend probably not gonna cut it, esp with arguably his most vital players at risk. Gonna be an interesting few weeks It could backfire if we wait too long. If Plymouth sack DA, which is very possible if they lose to Oxford on NYD, then GC's agent (if he has one), could play us and Plymouth off against each other.
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Post by 2 Tone Gas on Dec 29, 2018 22:07:09 GMT
My view is keep him till the end of the season and ask Holloway to oversee transfers in. GC would decide who went out and Holloway would help with incomings. Holloway probably would be a bigger influence on incoming players.
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Post by pirate49 on Dec 29, 2018 22:08:35 GMT
Although on face of it, decision now seems easy, I’d be surprised if it’s that simple. Based on last 4 games he looks to be in driving seat, but we don’t know what he’s after or what others are offering / after. GC is no fool and will be making big demands I’m sure, and keeping him as interim on small money with no cash to spend probably not gonna cut it, esp with arguably his most vital players at risk. Gonna be an interesting few weeks It could backfire if we wait too long. If Plymouth sack DA, which is very possible if they lose to Oxford on NYD, then GC's agent (if he has one), could play us and Plymouth off against each other. If we don't act quickly Plymouth may well do so. Apparently he was a playing 'legend' there.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2018 22:10:08 GMT
Let’s see what happens with Burton. The fixture list/games have been pretty fortunate to him: Sunderland (don’t get thrashed and show some fight) Fleetwood (10 men and 94th minute goal) Walsall (think they were on a mini losing streak/really poor form) Oxford (poor team) You can only beat what’s in front of you though that’s for sure. Today I don’t think we were great but did what was needed. I’d personally like GC as the assistant manager What a load of nonsense not sure DC thought he had 4 easy games coming up when he saw 3 of the next 4 games were away starting with Sunderland. Walsall are a decent mid table team and were twice leading form team Luton today and also won at Sunderland in the cup, and Oxford have also been on a reasonable run, we made them both look poor by totally outplaying them. I'm not sure any other manager would have won those 3 games with 4 consecutive wins looking a real possibility on NYD Wael's problem now is if he brings in a total outsider like Flynn or Garner as manager is whether they can then keep the run going, if not then we could easily slip back into the bottom 4.
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