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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 1:47:16 GMT
Because he is being played wide you say?
He has not showed up when he has played centre-mid,attacking centre-mid,wide left or wide right.
Cant tackle to save his life,fails to get his head up and pick a pass,most of his set pieces including his god awful over hit corners have been useless.
For me he was great last season but a passenger this season,not good enough to play in a centre midfield 2 and even when dc played him in a 3 he was pi** poor.
Massive let down and his career is in serious decline imo.
The team have been very poor but that in itself is not a good enough reason for not turning up for a whole season.
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Post by aforce on Feb 24, 2019 1:49:23 GMT
Be careful what you wish for he is our best footballer by a country mile for me. You need to play your best players in thier best position
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 2:54:59 GMT
Be careful what you wish for he is our best footballer by a country mile for me. You need to play your best players in thier best position My wish is for sercombe to turn up and play. Coughlan,dc and whoever was manager at oxford played him wide midfield,are they all wrong? Pretty sure his contract is up at the end of the season so lets see if his next manager at lincoln or mk dons end up playing him wide. Does playing wide affect his corners? they were dreadful yesterday. |
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Post by pirate on Feb 24, 2019 3:15:03 GMT
Be careful what you wish for he is our best footballer by a country mile for me. You need to play your best players in thier best position My wish is for sercombe to turn up and play. Coughlan,dc and whoever was manager at oxford played him wide midfield,are they all wrong? Pretty sure his contract is up at the end of the season so lets see if his next manager at lincoln or mk dons end up playing him wide. Does playing wide affect his corners? they were dreadful yesterday. Sercombe played the majority of his games in his final season at Oxford in League One as a central midfielder, although he did occasionally play on the right because they had class acts in the centre like John Lundstram (now at Sheffield Utd), Joe Rothwell (now at Blackburn) and Ryan Ledson (now at Preston). Last season he played centrally for us, got 12 goals and 8 assists in all competitions and was voted Player of the Season. His last season in League Two he got 14 goals (17 in all comps) and 7 assists for Oxford. If we go down or even if we manage to stay up, a fit Liam Sercombe played centrally is an asset IMHO, but doesn't look anywhere near as effective out wide. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 6:37:56 GMT
Because he is being played wide you say? He has not showed up when he has played centre-mid,attacking centre-mid,wide left or wide right. Cant tackle to save his life,fails to get his head up and pick a pass,most of his set pieces including his god awful over hit corners have been useless. For me he was great last season but a passenger this season,not good enough to play in a centre midfield 2 and even when dc played him in a 3 he was pi** poor. Massive let down and his career is in serious decline imo. The team have been very poor but that in itself is not a good enough reason for not turning up for a whole season. Hard to disagree unfortunately. Even playing from the left he is allowed (and does) drift inside. He has missed some great goal scoring opportunities this season and that has nothing to do with whether his starting position was left or centre. Someone as technically gifted as him should be able to cope with playing in a wider position, he isn't being asked to play as an out and out winger. The likes of Scholes and Zidane were the most gifted players in their national teams and often played from the left and performed well I don't think Sercs should be performing as poorly as he is regardless of whether it's his preferred position. |
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Post by peterparker on Feb 24, 2019 7:29:39 GMT
Problem is drop Sercombe and replace him with whom.
Personally thats why i advocate 3-5-2 with whatvwe have. Get Ogogo and Clarke/Upson in the middle to do the grunt work and at least give Sercombe a chance to create something and get beyond and up with the front 2.
He may have been poor this season, but for me the above is our best chance of staying up. We dont exactly scream out a load of options
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 8:07:28 GMT
Unless he scores goals, he offers nothing.
Last year, he scored goals. This year he has been awful, wherever he's played. I don't know when his contract runs out but I'd let him go in the summer. The way he's played this season, we'd be lucky to make the money back on him even if he has a year left.
One mitigating point though. If we persist in whacking the ball as high and far as we can, no midfielder will shine unless they are making themselves available to take the ball from defenders. This isn't Sercombe's role as he is more of an attacking midfielder, and is why Lines needs to be playing.
3-5-2 is, I feel, essential for both Rovers and Sercombe this season.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 24, 2019 8:30:31 GMT
Unless he scores goals, he offers nothing. Last year, he scored goals. This year he has been awful, wherever he's played. I don't know when his contract runs out but I'd let him go in the summer. The way he's played this season, we'd be lucky to make the money back on him even if he has a year left. One mitigating point though. If we persist in whacking the ball as high and far as we can, no midfielder will shine unless they are making themselves available to take the ball from defenders. This isn't Sercombe's role as he is more of an attacking midfielder, and is why Lines needs to be playing. 3-5-2 is, I feel, essential for both Rovers and Sercombe this season. Trouble is Lines has been sh** this season too when he has played. |
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 24, 2019 8:36:42 GMT
A little unfair he has been played out of position, think the midfield area is where we struggle, we have so many players of similar ability but who are inconsistent, yesterday we just did not create anything.
Sercs is a quality player though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 8:43:04 GMT
Unless he scores goals, he offers nothing. Last year, he scored goals. This year he has been awful, wherever he's played. I don't know when his contract runs out but I'd let him go in the summer. The way he's played this season, we'd be lucky to make the money back on him even if he has a year left. One mitigating point though. If we persist in whacking the ball as high and far as we can, no midfielder will shine unless they are making themselves available to take the ball from defenders. This isn't Sercombe's role as he is more of an attacking midfielder, and is why Lines needs to be playing. 3-5-2 is, I feel, essential for both Rovers and Sercombe this season. Trouble is Lines has been sh** this season too when he has played. Agreed. But he is the only creative player we have. Sercs is different, he's a goalscoring midfielder but he won't create. For the rest of this season, we need both to fire (accepting their poor form...they won't get better not playing) and giving the best chance of that means playing both in the middle of midfield. Which means we need 3-5-2 for solidity and width. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 24, 2019 9:09:50 GMT
He will be the first one out the door if we go down and we will probably accept the first pathetic offer we receive for him!
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 24, 2019 10:16:08 GMT
He’s out of contract!! We don’t need an offer, he walks or signs a new one. His decision is the simplest of all, its effectively nothing to do with us. I guess we will make the best offer to him we can, he will wait to get a better one. A better one comes in and he will sign for them. Probably MKDons if they come up or even Exeter if they get promotion. Pretty straightforward imo.
Id be very surprised if he signed back on for GC. Will want to play in his favourite position, CM, I would have thought. He’s a good player but one neither DC or GC has really thought about how to play him in his best position.
UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 10:26:12 GMT
He’s out of contract!! We don’t need an offer, he walks or signs a new one. His decision is the simplest of all, its effectively nothing to do with us. I guess we will make the best offer to him we can, he will wait to get a better one. A better one comes in and he will sign for them. Probably MKDons if they come up or even Exeter if they get promotion. Pretty straightforward imo. Id be very surprised if he signed back on for GC. Will want to play in his favourite position, CM, I would have thought. He’s a good player but one neither DC or GC has really thought about how to play him in his best position. UTG! I think you're right Wareham. He will go. Even if he was under contract though, we wouldn't get much for him on this season's form. I'd disagree slightly though about getting the best out of him. Clarke got that by playing him in a three last season. This year's slavery to 4-4-2 by both managers hasn't got the best out of him as he's not good enough to play in the middle when he's one of only two players. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 24, 2019 10:36:34 GMT
Sercombe has played mainly out wide this season but has made a number of appearances in central midfield and performed no better.
I'm not convinced he's any better in the middle than he is on the wing, he's just having a poor season along with a number of others.
Our most creative player from open play is Nichols and in my opinion he should be starting every game.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 24, 2019 10:58:26 GMT
We've come to rely on his form and goals from last season and it's an ingredient in our relegation threatened cake that he hasn't turned up. Agree with op.
Frustrating.
When he receives the ball on the left, he always looks to cut inside. Janet and John stuff to defend that with just an ounce of research..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 11:06:45 GMT
Be careful what you wish for he is our best footballer by a country mile for me. You need to play your best players in thier best position My wish is for sercombe to turn up and play. Coughlan,dc and whoever was manager at oxford played him wide midfield,are they all wrong? Pretty sure his contract is up at the end of the season so lets see if his next manager at lincoln or mk dons end up playing him wide. Does playing wide affect his corners? they were dreadful yesterday. I think his next club will be Exeter City. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 24, 2019 11:16:49 GMT
Problem is drop Sercombe and replace him with whom. Personally thats why i advocate 3-5-2 with whatvwe have. Get Ogogo and Clarke/Upson in the middle to do the grunt work and at least give Sercombe a chance to create something and get beyond and up with the front 2. He may have been poor this season, but for me the above is our best chance of staying up. We dont exactly scream out a load of options I agree with this. Playing players out of position works for the odd game here and there, but not permanently. Sercs is a CAM. Good at driving forward, technically good with his feet and can finish. In a side where we can’t score, one of our most gifted finishers is on the wing. |
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Post by Gassy on Feb 24, 2019 11:20:19 GMT
The whole squad hasn’t turned up.
Our 2nd best player (behind THD) who’s been played out of position isn’t the cause of our issues
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 24, 2019 11:43:50 GMT
____________Bonham
J.Clarke__Lockyer___Craig__Kelly
__________Ogogo___Lines
____Rodman__Sercombe__THD
_______________JCH
Personally would like to see this for a few games. More balance in that side IMO.
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Post by socrates on Feb 24, 2019 12:17:58 GMT
____________Bonham J.Clarke__Lockyer___Craig__Kelly __________Ogogo___Lines ____Rodman__Sercombe__THD _______________JCH Personally would like to see this for a few games. More balance in that side IMO. Yeah loads of teams play 4-2-3-1 these days . It gives you the two defensive midfielders in the middle which Cogs went for yesterday but also the attacking playmaker in front of them. It also allows the wide attacking players to attack more because the defensive midfielders can cover them a bit more out wide. I don’t like 3-5-2 I don’t think we’ve got the players for it but 4-2-3-1 is the way I’d go. Nichols should have definitely started yesterday if lines wasn’t fit because we were missing out two creative players and therefore created nothing. That part isn’t rocket science, it happened v Wycombe and it happened again yesterday. |
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