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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 8, 2019 8:30:45 GMT
Yet we've got facilities that are literally 3rd World. Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds are in another stratosphere to Bristol in pretty much every way imaginable. No comparison. Nottingham has one 30,000 capacity Football stadium, another 20,000 capacity and a near 20,000 capacity Test Match Cricket venue, plus a 10,000 capacity indoor Arena. Leicester has a 32,000 capacity Football Stadium, a 25,000 capacity Rugby Stadium, plus even their Arena of 3,000 is far better than anything Bristol's got. I won't bother with Newcastle as just like Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds its in another stratosphere in terms of infrastucture. Whats prosperous about Bristol exactly? Extorniate house prices that average people can't afford. Great. Give me the facilities of those places over a so called "Economically successful" Bristol any day of the week. I agree 100% with your point, but Bristol as a city to live in is far from being a backwater place and offers much more to the people that live here than many of those other places named do.Its only the sports facilities and arenas, and to a degree transport systems that put us to shame.A piece of land becomes free in and around Bristol and its brought and is built on...Sadly tho just for housing and business units.This is not the same in sheffield and other north citys. Why do so many people from outside Bristol choose to move here? Outside London Bristol has the most non City Born natives living here than anywhere else.This is proberly why as a city building new sporting arenas never get done. One thing Bristol has which many of those so called better cities is large open spaces for people to use Last time i went to London the biggest open space available to the public was the central reservation on the North circular
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 8, 2019 8:32:50 GMT
I mean no offence by this but can't honestly see why posters waste their time planning on what we could do at the Mem when it seems pretty clear the owners have no intention of spending any of their money at the Mem as, if they, did they'd never get their money they're "invested" in buying the club back. Plus we had a very good plan for a new stadium at the Mem anyway. Assuming the ALQ are here for the long term the big question is do they intend just watch us slowly decline whilst we're stuck at the undeveloped Mem, or actually intend in building us a new stadium else where. No sentence started like that has ever not meant to offend someone. Why do posters waste their time? Seriously? As I said, it's a hobby I like doing in my spare time, I've created a few. But never done it on the Mem. The New Mem requires we leave for 2 years, a stand development doesn't. Out of interest, and no offence meant by this but why do you waste time writing on a forum? Probably because you enjoy it? Perhaps other people enjoy speculating, who are you to judge or rule that they're wasting their time? We can all dream the dream, i do everytime i walk into the shithole of our stadium
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Post by supergas on Mar 8, 2019 9:52:42 GMT
I'm going to try and summarise my replies to some of the previous commments in just one post, hope it works...
Firstly Bristol is a crap city to live and work in. I know this because I lived and worked it in for many years, then spent many years working in lots of other cities around the UK, then left completely and now live and work in Perth, Australia.
Transport is crap, housing is crap, sporting facilities (north of the river) are (mostly) crap, the city centre at night is crap. I'm not sure what the council's long term visions are, I don't know how they've become one of the most 'economically successful' cities in the country - there's no logic to it, certainly no masterplan....
But back to Rovers. Yes I know it's never going to happen, but the only way to sensibly redevelop the Mem is to rotate the pitch. We don't want to play anywhere else for a season (or more)...also I know we have no money to do this, but this should be the pitch to any potential buyers....
Step One. Build a new East stand in carpark during a season. Dig down first to fit a couple of levels of parking underneath, then a stand about the same size and height behind the existing one - obviously with the relevant non-pitch-facing conference, bar and food outlets. This becomes an end to the new stadium.
Step Two. Ask the EFL to play our last three games away and our first three games away. This gives plenty of time to i) demolish the existing East Stand and terrace, build and lay a pitch on the new axis, remove the South and South West Temporary stands and Build a temporary South Stand running the length of the pitch.
At this point we have the West Stand as one end, a new East Stand as the other, the North Terrace running half the length of one side and a temporary stand running the length of the other. Changing rooms are still in place, Media facilities will be in the temporary South Stand (which now has a lot more space a lot further north so can be larger.....)
Step Three, take your pick - probably build a new Main Stand as the South Stand, parking behind and underneath it, also including new media facilities, changing rooms, and most of the new corporate stuff...
Finally rebuild the North Side, doesn't have to be massive, just run the length of the new pitch
Of course, I don't have the money to do this and I don't know anyone else who does.....
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 8, 2019 10:41:42 GMT
I'm going to try and summarise my replies to some of the previous commments in just one post, hope it works... Firstly Bristol is a crap city to live and work in. I know this because I lived and worked it in for many years, then spent many years working in lots of other cities around the UK, then left completely and now live and work in Perth, Australia. Transport is crap, housing is crap, sporting facilities (north of the river) are (mostly) crap, the city centre at night is crap. I'm not sure what the council's long term visions are, I don't know how they've become one of the most 'economically successful' cities in the country - there's no logic to it, certainly no masterplan.... But back to Rovers. Yes I know it's never going to happen, but the only way to sensibly redevelop the Mem is to rotate the pitch. We don't want to play anywhere else for a season (or more)...also I know we have no money to do this, but this should be the pitch to any potential buyers.... Step One. Build a new East stand in carpark during a season. Dig down first to fit a couple of levels of parking underneath, then a stand about the same size and height behind the existing one - obviously with the relevant non-pitch-facing conference, bar and food outlets. This becomes an end to the new stadium. Step Two. Ask the EFL to play our last three games away and our first three games away. This gives plenty of time to i) demolish the existing East Stand and terrace, build and lay a pitch on the new axis, remove the South and South West Temporary stands and Build a temporary South Stand running the length of the pitch. At this point we have the West Stand as one end, a new East Stand as the other, the North Terrace running half the length of one side and a temporary stand running the length of the other. Changing rooms are still in place, Media facilities will be in the temporary South Stand (which now has a lot more space a lot further north so can be larger.....) Step Three, take your pick - probably build a new Main Stand as the South Stand, parking behind and underneath it, also including new media facilities, changing rooms, and most of the new corporate stuff... Finally rebuild the North Side, doesn't have to be massive, just run the length of the new pitch Of course, I don't have the money to do this and I don't know anyone else who does..... That's the issue we may as well speculate about signing Griggs if Sunderland don't go up as that's just as unlikely to happen. I just don't get where the ALQ's see the club being in the next, 3, 5, years etc as something as to happen sooner or later on the ground front.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 8, 2019 11:02:04 GMT
What happened to the house we bought on filton avenue for access to the proposed Sainsbury's development Where do you think Hamer is living?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 8, 2019 11:54:31 GMT
What happened to the house we bought on filton avenue for access to the proposed Sainsbury's development Where do you think Hamer is living? Hamer has not been spotted at the club for some time
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 8, 2019 12:07:57 GMT
Where do you think Hamer is living? Hamer has not been spotted at the club for some time Well that's a massive loss.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 8, 2019 12:29:01 GMT
In terms of footprint, has anything changed since we won permission for the student lets plan? Could that give an indication of possible size that could be accommodated?
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Post by supergas on Mar 8, 2019 12:38:15 GMT
Where do you think Hamer is living? Hamer has not been spotted at the club for some time Well apparently we know where he lives, someone should go knock on the door and ask for him
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Post by piratesquarters on Mar 8, 2019 12:38:21 GMT
What happened to the house we bought on filton avenue for access to the proposed Sainsbury's development Where do you think Hamer is living? I think he rents near the airport. Sorry.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 8, 2019 12:39:18 GMT
Where do you think Hamer is living? I think he rents near the airport. Sorry. I understand he forced the airport to turn the landing light off at night
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Post by supergas on Mar 8, 2019 12:41:53 GMT
In terms of footprint, has anything changed since we won permission for the student lets plan? Could that give an indication of possible size that could be accommodated? The crucial two things are that i) planning permission has lapsed and ii) literally a million new student flats are being built elsewhere in the city. So potentially that size is still viable (unlikely though, the locals will be better prepared to rebuff it a second time around, plus I can't see any company wanting to partner with us to provide it..... The footprint is the smallest of the problems.....
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 8, 2019 12:48:14 GMT
In terms of footprint, has anything changed since we won permission for the student lets plan? Could that give an indication of possible size that could be accommodated? The crucial two things are that i) planning permission has lapsed and ii) literally a million new student flats are being built elsewhere in the city. So potentially that size is still viable (unlikely though, the locals will be better prepared to rebuff it a second time around, plus I can't see any company wanting to partner with us to provide it..... The footprint is the smallest of the problems..... I understand that, but as a planning precident it gives an idea of what height we could look at. Money, though. ....
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 8, 2019 12:51:09 GMT
Where do you think Hamer is living? Hamer has not been spotted at the club for some time It'll be interesting to see who the co-commentator is tomorrow as I doubt KB will make the long trip north?
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2019 23:12:18 GMT
Hamer has not been spotted at the club for some time It'll be interesting to see who the co-commentator is tomorrow as I doubt KB will make the long trip north? He [KB] is travelling tmw & Tues. Goes with Radio Bristol now.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2019 23:20:54 GMT
We put a roof above the blackthorn through raise the roof - why did we stop there? Maybe we need an old school mind set and need to stop relying on this board/owners. 🤔 The current owners are not interested in the supporters club, and hence supporter led 'investment' or help.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 8, 2019 23:22:54 GMT
I’m a builder , in Bristol and loads gets built here. You can’t blame Bristol , blame Bristol Rovers. ...Bristol is a backwater. Always has been, always will be. We did ok during the slave era 🤔🤐
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2019 10:44:25 GMT
So I made a (roughly within a couple of meters) to scale land plan of the Mem & where the pitch is currently situated. It just shows without moving the pitch, its exceptional difficult to do anything at the Mem Attachment Deleted
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2019 11:46:12 GMT
So I made a (roughly within a couple of meters) to scale land plan of the Mem & where the pitch is currently situated. It just shows without moving the pitch, its exceptional difficult to do anything at the Mem View AttachmentWe've already approved plans for the Mem, I don't get why we have to reinvent the wheel, if the ALQ's want to rebuild the Mem they just need to bring the plans up to date and then attempt to get pp. Although I wouldn't hold my breath that happen anytime soon!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2019 11:49:18 GMT
So I made a (roughly within a couple of meters) to scale land plan of the Mem & where the pitch is currently situated. It just shows without moving the pitch, its exceptional difficult to do anything at the Mem ![]() We've already approved plans for the Mem, I don't get why we have to reinvent the wheel, if the ALQ's want to rebuild the Mem they just need to bring the plans up to date and then attempt to get pp. Although I wouldn't hold my breath that happen anytime soon! That would mean moving away for 2 years as they'd have to move the pitch. The plan also included student flats etc which probably isn't needed now. I'm exploring the possibility of what we could do stand by stand, without moving away to Cheltenham
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