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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 10:11:50 GMT
Ah right, just seems ridiculously high
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Post by Blueside on Apr 24, 2019 10:52:01 GMT
Ah right, just seems ridiculously high Doubtless, set by bookies who haven't watched us play recently.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 24, 2019 10:57:05 GMT
Why anyone takes any notice of betting odds is beyond me. Complete load of bollox in my view.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 24, 2019 11:29:31 GMT
Why anyone takes any notice of betting odds is beyond me. Complete load of bollox in my view. Can act as compensation is the worst happens.
Anyone who was willing to risk £50 at 300/1 last week would be looking at £15,000.00
Unfortunately I was convinced either we'd get a point against Rochdale or Burton would get a point at Southend so I didn't chance it.
Most bookies now have us at 66/1 or 50/1. However, Sky Bet are still offering 200/1 for anyone interested.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 24, 2019 11:49:04 GMT
Why anyone takes any notice of betting odds is beyond me. Complete load of bollox in my view. Can act as compensation is the worst happens.
Anyone who was willing to risk £50 at 300/1 last week would be looking at £15,000.00
Unfortunately I was convinced either we'd get a point against Rochdale or Burton would get a point at Southend so I didn't chance it.
Most bookies now have us at 66/1 or 50/1. However, Sky Bet are still offering 200/1 for anyone interested.
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 24, 2019 12:01:14 GMT
Can act as compensation is the worst happens.
Anyone who was willing to risk £50 at 300/1 last week would be looking at £15,000.00
Unfortunately I was convinced either we'd get a point against Rochdale or Burton would get a point at Southend so I didn't chance it.
Most bookies now have us at 66/1 or 50/1. However, Sky Bet are still offering 200/1 for anyone interested.
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion. True to a certain extent.
I guess all we know is how poor we've been playing and the form of those around us.
However, last nights results show how difficult matches are to predict. Doncaster hadn't lost at home since October so who would have predicted Accrington winning there and nobody gave Wimbledon any hope at Luton.
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Post by baggins on Apr 24, 2019 12:10:11 GMT
Can't we just get a point at Fleetwood? Please?
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Post by dcr on Apr 24, 2019 12:38:37 GMT
Can't we just get a point at Fleetwood? Please? that is what we are going to set up for.
8 at the back and try for a 0-0 ,
same as every other game
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Post by baggins on Apr 24, 2019 12:39:50 GMT
Can't we just get a point at Fleetwood? Please? that is what we are going to set up for.
8 at the back and try for a 0-0 ,
same as every other game
That's not true and you know it.
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Post by hardingegas on Apr 24, 2019 12:47:44 GMT
Even though someone mentioned Rochdale and Accrington will be 'on the beach' with 51pts they know that it might not be enough in this crazy season. Home wins for the Dale and Stanley will see us safe - but I'll be praying for a point for us on Saturday!
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Post by rambo on Apr 24, 2019 12:48:32 GMT
I think the season we dropped out of the League, there were 39 different permutations of results , 38 of those would have kept us up. Relagation is not an option. #lining my shorts Nope. 3 games mattered - us, Northampton and Wycombe which means there were 27 permutations. Only results to see us down were Wycombe W, Rovers L and Northampton W or D so 2 permutations. 2/27 = 1 in 13.5. Unlikely but nowhere near as unlikely as you suggest and nowhere near as unlikely as the scenarios this time around.
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Post by baggins on Apr 24, 2019 12:50:41 GMT
Even though someone mentioned Rochdale and Accrington will be 'on the beach' with 51pts they know that it might not be enough in this crazy season. Home wins for the Dale and Stanley will see us safe - but I'll be praying for a point for us on Saturday! Praying, crossing fingers, crossing toes, and drinking Saturday.
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Post by hardingegas on Apr 24, 2019 13:09:05 GMT
Two losses by Shrewsbury might save us - they're away to Coventry who still have an outside chance of the playoffs. Then Walsall at home who need two wins for potential safety.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 13:10:02 GMT
I think the season we dropped out of the League, there were 39 different permutations of results , 38 of those would have kept us up. Relagation is not an option. #lining my shorts Nope. 3 games mattered - us, Northampton and Wycombe which means there were 27 permutations. Only results to see us down were Wycombe W, Rovers L and Northampton W or D so 2 permutations. 2/27 = 1 in 13.5. Unlikely but nowhere near as unlikely as you suggest and nowhere near as unlikely as the scenarios this time around. Well put, it’s currently nowhere near comparable with 2014. Even if it goes to the last day it is likely that it will be far more complex than a 3 team shootout for 1 spot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 13:18:48 GMT
Looking at it, there is the possible scenario of Barnsley needing just a draw in the last game to confirm promotion with us just needing a point also.
How would people feel about both sides playing out a draw by passing the ball about for 90 minutes? Against the spirit of the game or perfectly acceptable?
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Post by rambo on Apr 24, 2019 13:23:23 GMT
Looking at it, there is the possible scenario of Barnsley needing just a draw in the last game to confirm promotion with us just needing a point also. How would people feel about both sides playing out a draw by passing the ball about for 90 minutes? Against the spirit of the game or perfectly acceptable? Fine by me!
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 24, 2019 13:31:15 GMT
Can act as compensation is the worst happens.
Anyone who was willing to risk £50 at 300/1 last week would be looking at £15,000.00
Unfortunately I was convinced either we'd get a point against Rochdale or Burton would get a point at Southend so I didn't chance it.
Most bookies now have us at 66/1 or 50/1. However, Sky Bet are still offering 200/1 for anyone interested.
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion. All the bookmakers would interested in that view I'm sure. The odds just reflect the weight of money taken enabling the bookie to balance his book. I would venture to say its all about science or at least statistics
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Post by Jomo on Apr 24, 2019 13:44:35 GMT
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion. All the bookmakers would interested in that view I'm sure. The odds just reflect the weight of money taken enabling the bookie to balance his book. I would venture to say its all about science or at least statistics I agree it's a science for the bookies. It's a con to the customers.
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Post by RD on Apr 24, 2019 14:06:38 GMT
Can act as compensation is the worst happens.
Anyone who was willing to risk £50 at 300/1 last week would be looking at £15,000.00
Unfortunately I was convinced either we'd get a point against Rochdale or Burton would get a point at Southend so I didn't chance it.
Most bookies now have us at 66/1 or 50/1. However, Sky Bet are still offering 200/1 for anyone interested.
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion. Are you serious? You couldn't be further from the truth. There is an enormous amount of mathematical science that goes in to it - if not they'd be going bankrupt!! Trust me, the algorithms built to price up the odds are astoundingly sophisticated. Of course they "get it wrong" now and again - that's why most gamblers look for "value". But to say it's complete guesswork is laughable I'm afraid.
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Post by RD on Apr 24, 2019 14:09:20 GMT
I understand that it would soften the blow to put a tenner on at 250-1 for us to go down, my point was just about betting odds in general. Some people seem to take it seriously almost as a science behind it. The odds of anything are either obvious or complete guesswork. There's no science or skill behind it at all in my opinion. All the bookmakers would interested in that view I'm sure. The odds just reflect the weight of money taken enabling the bookie to balance his book. I would venture to say its all about science or at least statistics Not quite true either I'm afraid - odds can move based on money being taken (to minimise liability), but it's far more to do with the pricing algorithms behind the scenes. Most bookies (proper ones I mean - not Bob down the pub) will price up a book over 100% to pretty much ensure they can turn a profit off pretty much any given outcome (bar somebody winning big time).
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