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Post by clockendgas on Apr 23, 2019 20:58:36 GMT
Maybe come down to the winner between plymouth and scunny hopefully, need a do or die show at fleetwood.
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Post by dukegas on Apr 23, 2019 20:59:29 GMT
What a sh**e end to the season, Fingers cross results go our way Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:00:49 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens:
We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland).
Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games.
We'll be fine.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 23, 2019 21:01:45 GMT
This is dreadful as it stands .... some of these teams have more grit than we do for sure. Luton and Donnie do need the points though .... hope yet! Don’t think many teams have as much grit as us. It’s our lack of creativity and perhaps quality that they have more of. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:03:38 GMT
Only needs Wimbledon or Southend to lose on Saturday and we are safe regardless. If we can’t get the points we need ourselves then we deserve to go down. The number of points that any team 'need' will always be dependent on the points other teams have gained!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:05:23 GMT
Assuming we lose both games there are six teams that could overtake us and send us down - is that right? Two would need to win both matches. Two would need a win and a draw. The other two would just need one draw from their two matches? (I've not factored in who plays who as that is just scrambling my brain)
If it was anyone other than Rovers I would say there is no chance of relegation
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 23, 2019 21:06:02 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. Thanks 1970! I hope you’re right and I think you are. We’ll be ok but I don’t like the idea that come the last 10 minutes of the last game Wycombe get an equaliser and we’re 0-1 down. Sounds too familiar. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:07:02 GMT
This is dreadful as it stands .... some of these teams have more grit than we do for sure. Luton and Donnie do need the points though .... hope yet! Don’t think many teams have as much grit as us. It’s our lack of creativity and perhaps quality that they have more of. UTG! As much grit or sh** as us?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:07:49 GMT
This season just will not f**k off quietly will it?
Either way I really can’t see us being relegated. I might be tempting fate and People will bring up Mansfield etc but this would trump that and be one of the most bizarre relegations of all time because of the sequence of results required. We all know how hard it is to land an accy with 5+ results because there is usually one that goes tits up. What we have here is effectively a massive accy resulting in our relegation and there is very little margin for error, not least we have to lose both our games for starters and Wimbledon have to win both of theirs, that’s some pretty impressive odds to beat for starters never mind factoring in what Southend have to do. If we can’t get a point from a team with nothing to play for then we can only look at ourselves as the architects of our own downfall.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 23, 2019 21:08:22 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. AND the eventual winner of Plymouth and Scunthorpe also win on Saturday (Plymouth could draw). (It's something like 10 results all going against us.)
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Post by rambo on Apr 23, 2019 21:08:59 GMT
Teams are scrapping harder than us .... we have to show we want to stay up on Saturday. I can’t accept GC repeating what a great bunch of hard working lads we have when they are on the training ground .... has to translate to the pitch on Saturday. Are they? Picked up 3 points vs Bradford a point at Wimbledon and lost to a late Rochdale goal who have been on a decent run since sacking their manager. Our GD is -4 we don't generally get tonked unless we play Doncaster. It's not been pretty but my god if the last 4 months haven't been gritty and scrappy then I don't know what it's been. If we've not been scrapping with the best of them, we'd have been down by February!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2019 21:12:35 GMT
Any one of Southend, Scunthorpe, Wimbledon or Plymouth lose on Saturday and our safety is sorted. No matter how we get on. Think of it that way. Unfortunately every single one of them have more than winnable games. Scunny at home to Bradford looks the only odds on winner the other 3 have tough games to win compared to us just having to avoid defeat at mid table Fleetwood.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 23, 2019 21:14:27 GMT
Don’t think many teams have as much grit as us. It’s our lack of creativity and perhaps quality that they have more of. UTG! As much grit or sh** as us? Grit mate, grit. 😉 UTG!
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 23, 2019 21:16:02 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. Depends what your definition of fine is. I really, seriously do not want to go up against Barnsley with ANY mathematical chance of relegation.
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Post by Gassy on Apr 23, 2019 21:20:40 GMT
Too many complacent fans on here. Much like when we were last relegated. Much like fans before Rochdale. Much like the team Vs Rochdale.
Will we ever learn?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:23:59 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. Depends what your definition of fine is. I really, seriously do not want to go up against Barnsley with ANY mathematical chance of relegation. No. Nor me. Too many ghosts! Maybe 'fine' isn't the best word. Safe maybe. Either way, it will take some freak results to send us down. I'm no fan of his style of football but Graham Coughlan deserves great credit for keeping us up. I don't agree with the view that we were certainties for relegation under DC. No-one is relegated in December and he had a track record of having a better second half of the season. We'll never know. However, what we do know is that Coughlan has (almost!) done the job he was appointed for and should be applauded for that. Next challenge is to develop the playing side into a more attractive, passing style and make sure we're not in a worse position next season.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 23, 2019 21:24:15 GMT
Any one of Southend, Scunthorpe, Wimbledon or Plymouth lose on Saturday and our safety is sorted. No matter how we get on. Think of it that way. Unfortunately every single one of them have more than winnable games. I think 2 of them would need to lose to have it sorted before the final day if we don't get any points at Fleetwood.
Scunthorpe v Bradford Wimbledon v Wycombe Accrington v Plymouth Rochdale v Southend
There is a very realistic chance they could all win which would leave the table looking something like this going into the final day.
50 - Rovers
50 - Wycombe
50 - Southend
50 - Plymouth ---------------
49 - Wimbledon
49 - Scunthorpe
43 - Walsall
37 - Bradford
The final day fixtures are:
Plymouth v Scunthorpe Bradford v Wimbledon Southend v Sunderland Wycombe v Fleetwood
So if we don't get any more points one of Plymouth or Scunthorpe would finish above us.
Wimbledon would need to win at Bradford which seems quite possible after their draw at Luton.
Wycombe would need just a point at home to Fleetwood.
Southend would need a draw with Sunderland. However, if Sunderland don't beat Portsmouth their automatic promotion hopes will have gone by then.
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Post by ricardo on Apr 23, 2019 21:25:32 GMT
Placed a bet after yesterday’s game on us to go down just to have a consolation if it happens. Odds were 250/1, bookies ain’t daft.
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Post by wertongas on Apr 23, 2019 21:31:27 GMT
if Wimbledon can draw at Luton then they are good enough to stay up, certainly can't see Accrington going down, we now need at least a draw at Fleetwood, always maintained a minimum of 51 points needed to stay up.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:33 GMT
Look at it this way lads..... it keeps things exciting.
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