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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:48 GMT
Any one of Southend, Scunthorpe, Wimbledon or Plymouth lose on Saturday and our safety is sorted. No matter how we get on. Think of it that way. Unfortunately every single one of them have more than winnable games. I think 2 of them would need to lose to have it sorted before the final day if we don't get any points at Fleetwood.
Scunthorpe v Bradford Wimbledon v Wycombe Accrington v Plymouth Rochdale v Southend
There is a very realistic chance they could all win which would leave the table looking something like this going into the final day.
50 - Rovers
50 - Wycombe
50 - Southend
50 - Plymouth ---------------
49 - Wimbledon
49 - Scunthorpe
43 - Walsall
37 - Bradford
The final day fixtures are:
Plymouth v Scunthorpe Bradford v Wimbledon Southend v Sunderland Wycombe v Fleetwood
So if we don't get any more points one of Plymouth or Scunthorpe would finish above us.
Wimbledon would need to win at Bradford which seems quite possible after their draw at Luton.
Wycombe would need just a point at home to Fleetwood.
Southend would need a draw with Sunderland. However, if Sunderland don't beat Portsmouth their automatic promotion hopes will have gone by then.
I must admit if results all go against us this weekend then the final day will be a nightmare!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:37:10 GMT
Placed a bet after yesterday’s game on us to go down just to have a consolation if it happens. Odds were 250/1, bookies ain’t daft. 200-1 now lol
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2019 21:44:37 GMT
Any one of Southend, Scunthorpe, Wimbledon or Plymouth lose on Saturday and our safety is sorted. No matter how we get on. Think of it that way. Unfortunately every single one of them have more than winnable games. I think 2 of them would need to lose to have it sorted before the final day if we don't get any points at Fleetwood.
Scunthorpe v Bradford Wimbledon v Wycombe Accrington v Plymouth Rochdale v Southend
There is a very realistic chance they could all win which would leave the table looking something like this going into the final day.
50 - Rovers
50 - Wycombe
50 - Southend
50 - Plymouth ---------------
49 - Wimbledon
49 - Scunthorpe
43 - Walsall
37 - Bradford
The final day fixtures are:
Plymouth v Scunthorpe Bradford v Wimbledon Southend v Sunderland Wycombe v Fleetwood
So if we don't get any more points one of Plymouth or Scunthorpe would finish above us.
Wimbledon would need to win at Bradford which seems quite possible after their draw at Luton.
Wycombe would need just a point at home to Fleetwood.
Southend would need a draw with Sunderland. However, if Sunderland don't beat Portsmouth their automatic promotion hopes will have gone by then.
Wimbledon have only won 1 game in 6 so suddenly winning two will take some doing, plus are Rochdale and Accy really going to both lose after just beating us and Donny? Even if Sunderland blow promotion they will still want to finish 4th to avoid playing the 2nd leg away at Charlton/possilby still pip Pompey for 3rd and so play Donny.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 23, 2019 21:45:14 GMT
Placed a bet after yesterday’s game on us to go down just to have a consolation if it happens. Odds were 250/1, bookies ain’t daft. 200-1 now lol I hate doing it. But I've just done it. I'll need a bloody good pick me up if it happens.
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Post by yategasman on Apr 23, 2019 21:45:57 GMT
I’ll have a tenner on it happy if I win Happier if I lose!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2019 21:48:24 GMT
Look at it this way lads..... it keeps things exciting. The way things are going Barnsley could be Champions, runners up or finish 3rd and we could be celebrating staying up or potentially being relegated all in our final game at the Mem!
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 23, 2019 21:53:59 GMT
Look at it this way lads..... it keeps things exciting. Assuming we stay up is there any chance we could have a boring season next year as I'm not sure my nerves can take much more. 😐
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Post by ipswichrover on Apr 23, 2019 21:55:26 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. As we approached the final game of the 2014 season, there were 27 different combinations of the results for Rovers, Torquay and Wycombe. Only 2 of the 27 possible combinations would see us relegated. We know how that ended!
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Post by paulpirate on Apr 23, 2019 22:00:58 GMT
Can’t see us getting another point but luckily for us I don’t think we’re need it
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Post by aghast on Apr 23, 2019 22:03:13 GMT
I think the point of all this is that, although the combinations of results to send us down are unlikely, they are not pie in the sky.
None of the worst possible results for us, achieved by our rivals, are outlandish, and they could all happen.
If, of course, we lose our last two.
To me, that is more unlikely than all the others getting the results they need.
But if we lose on Saturday, then the pressure will really be on.
I think a point will be enough. One precious point.
I don't want that point to be needed against Barnsley, though.
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Post by Gashead51 on Apr 23, 2019 22:05:44 GMT
Look at it this way lads..... it keeps things exciting. Assuming we stay up is there any chance we could have a boring season next year as I'm not sure my nerves can take much more. 😐 Season Tickets should be sold with a “health warning”
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Post by pirate on Apr 23, 2019 22:18:36 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. As we approached the final game of the 2014 season, there were 27 different combinations of the results for Rovers, Torquay and Wycombe. Only 2 of the 27 possible combinations would see us relegated. We know how that ended! Thanks for that. I feel much better now.
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Post by singupgas on Apr 23, 2019 22:27:14 GMT
Too many complacent fans on here. Much like when we were last relegated. Much like fans before Rochdale. Much like the team Vs Rochdale. Will we ever learn? You are are right I want to see use go out and beat Fleetwood and take care of things ourselves. If the squad were seriously sat around thinking we are fine then I would be worried. I want 100% effort from every player we need to get a win.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Apr 23, 2019 22:34:07 GMT
2014 - Needed a point to stay in the Football league 2015 - Needed to beat Alfreton & Gateshead to get a point at Barnet to be crowned National League champions 2016 - Needed to win & Accrington to draw to be promoted automatically 2017 - Millwall needed to beat us to secure a play off place 2018 - Southend 0 - 0 Rovers Nothing on the line 2019 - ?? 4 of the last 5 seasons there has been something up for grabs on the final day. Win at Fleetwood and make that final match merely a worry for Barnsley. I’m not sure the old ticker could handle a 4th season in 6 where we would need something for ourselves!
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Post by Icegas on Apr 23, 2019 23:33:02 GMT
I think 2 of them would need to lose to have it sorted before the final day if we don't get any points at Fleetwood.
Scunthorpe v Bradford Wimbledon v Wycombe Accrington v Plymouth Rochdale v Southend
There is a very realistic chance they could all win which would leave the table looking something like this going into the final day.
50 - Rovers
50 - Wycombe
50 - Southend
50 - Plymouth ---------------
49 - Wimbledon
49 - Scunthorpe
43 - Walsall
37 - Bradford
The final day fixtures are:
Plymouth v Scunthorpe Bradford v Wimbledon Southend v Sunderland Wycombe v Fleetwood
So if we don't get any more points one of Plymouth or Scunthorpe would finish above us.
Wimbledon would need to win at Bradford which seems quite possible after their draw at Luton.
Wycombe would need just a point at home to Fleetwood.
Southend would need a draw with Sunderland. However, if Sunderland don't beat Portsmouth their automatic promotion hopes will have gone by then.
I must admit if results all go against us this weekend then the final day will be a nightmare! To be fair if that happens we are down.
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Post by yaz on Apr 24, 2019 0:48:45 GMT
Placed a bet after yesterday’s game on us to go down just to have a consolation if it happens. Odds were 250/1, bookies ain’t daft. 200-1 now lol I was thinking of placing a bet before Rochdale but didn’t. 250-1 seems large. If it is 200-1 I am going to put a bet! I never bet against us but we will not beat Barnsley.
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Post by yaz on Apr 24, 2019 0:53:05 GMT
The only way we go down is if the following happens: We lose both games AND Wimbledon win both games AND Southend take minimum 4 points from their 2 games (away to Rochdale and home to Sunderland). Assuming the above long shot happens, Wycombe would still need a point against Fleetwood to send us down OR Shrewsbury would need a point from one of their two games. We'll be fine. Remember when we only needed a draw at home to Mansfield to stay up and they scored with probably their only shot and won 1-0 AND both Wycombe and Northampton had to win away for us to still go down and ...... Tonights results were not expected but they happened; Accy was a bad result for us. We need a point of Fleetwood minimum!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 24, 2019 4:28:45 GMT
I think Wimbledon's last two fixtures are winnable anyway and I predict them to finish above us if we cannot get anymore points.
Accrington win pretty much makes them safe. Now we need them to beat Plymouth this weekend.
Scunthorpe have to beat Bradford. I don't think Southend will get more than a point away at Rochdale. If think Wimbledon will beat Wycombe, but if they only draw then they cannot then finish above us which I think would then make us safe as only one of Plymouth or Scunthorpe can finish above us.
So we need either Wimbledon to loose or draw or for Southend to loose this weekend and that makes us safe I believe, on GD?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 24, 2019 5:59:23 GMT
So we need either Wimbledon to loose or draw or for Southend to loose this weekend and that makes us safe I believe, on GD? Yeah, or if Plymouth lose and Scunthorpe lose or draw, that will also make us safe.
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Post by gasstrictband on Apr 24, 2019 6:51:27 GMT
Beware of mysterious circumstances, Driven by an unknown power.
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