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Post by Topper Gas on May 5, 2019 9:16:38 GMT
If we'd let him go last summer and got a fee for him, it would likely have been 500k tops. He's a centre half, not a striker who command bigger fees. More importantly though, we would have probably gone down as we wouldn't have had the benefit of his superb performances this season. He will take some replacing and successfully doing so may be just as key to our survival chances next season as the playmaker, winger and striker we need. Thank you Tom. Model pro who never gave less than 100% to the quarters. As DC once said, he'd kick his granny to prevent a goal. I wish him well and will watch his career with interest. But we'll still have to replace him this summer and we're now £500K worse off overall as a club. Just £100K would probably get you a decent Div 1 CB. |
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Post by curlywurly on May 5, 2019 9:29:19 GMT
Bosman has destroyed football clubs in the lower league ffs get brexit sorted then we might be able to complete with the others All he got was basically fairness in how player contracts work. Brexit isn't going to reverse Bosman, is it? What? I'm sure I saw that on the side of a bus...it must be true! |
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Post by singupgas on May 5, 2019 10:05:19 GMT
If we'd let him go last summer and got a fee for him, it would likely have been 500k tops. He's a centre half, not a striker who command bigger fees. More importantly though, we would have probably gone down as we wouldn't have had the benefit of his superb performances this season. He will take some replacing and successfully doing so may be just as key to our survival chances next season as the playmaker, winger and striker we need. Thank you Tom. Model pro who never gave less than 100% to the quarters. As DC once said, he'd kick his granny to prevent a goal. I wish him well and will watch his career with interest. But we'll still have to replace him this summer and we're now £500K worse off overall as a club. Just £100K would probably get you a decent Div 1 CB. Exactly this. People will ask why we haven't been able to find a decent replacement soon. Go figure, we got no money to replace him... and then fund the wide players we desperately need, the attacking cms we need, the right back we need and the striker we also need. |
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Post by Gassy on May 5, 2019 10:21:35 GMT
But we'll still have to replace him this summer and we're now £500K worse off overall as a club. Just £100K would probably get you a decent Div 1 CB. Exactly this. People will ask why we haven't been able to find a decent replacement soon. Go figure, we got no money to replace him... and then fund the wide players we desperately need, the attacking cms we need, the right back we need and the striker we also need. What people don’t seem to get is that’s its cause & effect. If we want to sign good players then ultimately we need to sell good players. Harrison going freed up money to sign THD, made money available for JCH in January etc. Lockyer going for free means we have no money at all. What are we going to replace him with? Our squad is generally getting worse & worse and we don’t have any money to reinvest because they all keep going for free/peanuts. Our current regime is taking us backwards, without a doubt. The only real asset we have on the cards are JCH & potentially THD |
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Post by pirate49 on May 5, 2019 10:25:51 GMT
Exactly this. People will ask why we haven't been able to find a decent replacement soon. Go figure, we got no money to replace him... and then fund the wide players we desperately need, the attacking cms we need, the right back we need and the striker we also need. What people don’t seem to get is that’s its cause & effect. If we want to sign good players then ultimately we need to sell good players. Harrison going freed up money to sign THD, made money available for JCH in January etc. Lockyer going for free means we have no money at all. What are we going to replace him with? Our squad is generally getting worse & worse and we don’t have any money to reinvest because they all keep going for free/peanuts. Our current regime is taking us backwards, without a doubt. The only real asset we have on the cards are JCH & potentially THD Perhaps that's why they offered GC a two and a half year contract, so that if he's pinched by another club we can get compo!  |
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Post by adrian301 on May 5, 2019 10:41:30 GMT
Surely TL's agent would have advised him not to sign new contract, so making him more attractive to interested clubs. TL now has the outcome he and his agent wanted....
Best of luck to him
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Post by axegas on May 5, 2019 10:48:30 GMT
Only hope is that an instalment of the Harrison money comes through and we can fund a replacement with that.
We don’t just lose Lockyer when he leaves, we also lose the partnership and understanding he’s built up at the back with Craig which has kept us many clean sheets.
On top of that we are also losing Bonham with no immediate replacement at the club. Going to be a tough summer.
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Post by neilv93 on May 5, 2019 10:51:24 GMT
Silver lining is, whilst we're losing one academy graduate turned captain, seems we might have another coming through in Kilgour. If he's starting alongside Craig or whoever next season, let's give the lad our support and afford him the opportunity to fill Tom's boots.
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Post by matealotblue on May 5, 2019 10:55:58 GMT
What people don’t seem to get is that’s its cause & effect. If we want to sign good players then ultimately we need to sell good players. Harrison going freed up money to sign THD, made money available for JCH in January etc. Lockyer going for free means we have no money at all. What are we going to replace him with? Our squad is generally getting worse & worse and we don’t have any money to reinvest because they all keep going for free/peanuts. Our current regime is taking us backwards, without a doubt. The only real asset we have on the cards are JCH & potentially THD Perhaps that's why they offered GC a two and a half year contract, so that if he's pinched by another club we can get compo! Would prefer Nora Batty .....them stockings....😋😋 |
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Post by stevek192 on May 5, 2019 11:00:33 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international.
Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form
if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake.
Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it?
Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 11:21:16 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international. Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake. Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it? Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you. Or, Lockyer gave us eight years when he could have left earlier. Some valid points about managers giving him opportunities and sticking with him at times, but on the other hand Lockyer has never given less than 100% for our club and his ability has outgrown our potential. He has every right to move on and potentially, signing a contract may have restricted his chances of doing so. On a sub note, Taylor did exactly what Lambert did. Sign a contract rather than leave on a free. All he did differently was join City. Taylor did nothing wrong in my book and I would have him back in a heartbeat. |
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Post by gertrude1883 on May 5, 2019 11:32:15 GMT
Pathetic excuse for a footballer who will be playing in the Championship next season With support like that, no wonder he wants to leave Players like him is amazing I bother. Well at least 1 of us turns up every week. I'm guessing you've been made to work this weekend? |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 5, 2019 11:36:19 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international. Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake. Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it? Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you. Any proof Lambert actually signed a contract so we would get a transfer fee or, more likely, signed it just before the Saints showed any interest in signing him? Be honest what would any of us do in Locks position signed a contract or keep your options open. He was in a win, win situation, as we'd always offer him a new contract or he could pick up the £'s if a Championship side wanted him. The fact he's done it now he's over 24 suggests he's been well advised by his agent, which is a bit snake like I must admit. |
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Post by tinner on May 5, 2019 11:47:28 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international. Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake. Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it? Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you. Pathetic, TL has been superb all season, never less than 100% even though of course a bad injury would have been a massive issue for him. He leaves with my best wishes..and thanks for 8 years, anyone who thinks differently should take a good look at themselves |
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Post by neilv93 on May 5, 2019 11:49:29 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international. Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form
if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake.Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it? Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you. Steve, have you been on the sauce all morning? You're seriously, seriously suggesting Lockyer is no better than the guy that joined our fiercest rivals? Genuinely? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 11:50:46 GMT
This is going to be like Harrison - you only realise how good he was when he’s gone!
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Post by neilv93 on May 5, 2019 11:52:48 GMT
This is going to be like Harrison - you only realise how good he was when he’s gone! But... WYHHB? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 11:53:50 GMT
This is going to be like Harrison - you only realise how good he was when he’s gone! But... WYHHB? yeah I’d have Ellis back! Not Tom as we haven’t seen it yet! |
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Post by madgas on May 5, 2019 11:55:46 GMT
Tom Lockyer- Great player Club Captain ,Over 250 appearances, Welsh international. Question Where would he have been without the backing of all the Managers at Rovers? made a regular player at a young age and fully backed when he went through poor runs of form if he goes on a free as is being suggested then my opinion of him is that he is no better than the Snake. Where is the class of Rickie Lambert who signed a new deal knowing that the club would sell him and make a good amount of money from it? Sorry Tom but if you have allowed your contract to run out then shame on you. Utter nonsense. The day a player that achieves 2 promotions can be accused of shame... well wow. A club legend regardless of free transfer. (Unless he goes to the sh** of course). |
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Post by warehamgas on May 5, 2019 11:58:27 GMT
A player is highly regarded by his league one club with a year or so left on his contract. The club offers him a long term extension The player wants to keep his long term options open and expresses a willingness to sign only a short extension - 18 months. The club has to decide whether to market him for sale or accept they have little choice but to give him the 18 month deal he wants. The player decides he won't be sold against his will. They club agree terms on the 18 month extension. The player chooses to run down his latest contract and has no interest in listening to any more offers from the club. The players deal reaches his expiry and we all learn he will likely leave as a a free agent. Could someone please explain how a club could get the player to either sign a long term deal or be sold like an object. Thumbscrews and water boarding do not count. Well done eric. Pretty much it I would have thought.😭 UTG! |
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