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Post by Gas-Ed on May 5, 2019 8:12:35 GMT
For those who haven’t seen it, (I’m sure someone can post a vid on here) former Rovers keeper Matt Macey pulled up injured in the crunch game between his side Plymouth and Scunthorpe.
His team were winning 2-1 at the time. He wanted to receive medical attention and attempted to roll the ball out of play for a throw. A Scunthorpe player prevented the ball going out of play and lobbed the keeper, making the score 2-2.
As we know, both sides were relegated, so although controversial, the goal didn’t actually mean a great deal.
My question is, if Rovers needed a goal for survival or promotion and we scored with minutes to go, in a similar fashion, would you want a Leeds-style walk-through goal allowing the other team to score or would you be happy for us to get the goal in any way possible?
I personally couldn’t believe the poor sportsmanship, given the possible ramifications of the goal.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 5, 2019 8:19:45 GMT
Although the first time someone put the ball out to help with an injury it was probably a good thing, I bet the very next day someone managed to use it cynically to get an advantage.
I'm very happy with the rule that the game doesn't stop unless the ref stops it, and I think players should never give the ball back in these sort of situations. If you do want to put the ball out, then you should resign yourself to losing possession. Problem solved.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 5, 2019 8:24:34 GMT
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Post by miltongas on May 5, 2019 8:25:46 GMT
Although the first time someone put the ball out to help with an injury it was probably a good thing, I bet the very next day someone managed to use it cynically to get an advantage. I'm very happy with the rule that the game doesn't stop unless the ref stops it, and I think players should never give the ball back in these sort of situations. If you do want to put the ball out, then you should resign yourself to losing possession. Problem solved. I’d add an exception which is the ref instructs the ball to be put out of play then the ball should be given back. But otherwise conceding possession seems like a valid price to pay for having an injured player either mended or replaced. |
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Post by Hudson1883 on May 5, 2019 8:30:00 GMT
Also wondering why a goalkeeper of such build has attempted to roll it out, with the strength of his 80yr old Auntie at Tuesday night skittles. Either launch it or lug it so far it’s going over the building site. Seeing them go down on goal difference certainly made my evening.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 5, 2019 8:30:13 GMT
In that situation I would want us to do anything just to stay up.
I said on the other thread Macey, although I accept he was injured, should have made sure it went out.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 8:31:00 GMT
To be fair to Scunthorpe it doesn't look massively clear what he's doing there. |
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Post by pirate on May 5, 2019 8:32:45 GMT
Cracking finish though!  |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 5, 2019 8:34:55 GMT
To be fair to Scunthorpe it doesn't look massively clear what he's doing there. Also he could have thrown it towards the opposite side of the pitch as it doesnt look like anyone was there |
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Post by mosschops on May 5, 2019 8:45:34 GMT
To be fair to Scunthorpe it doesn't look massively clear what he's doing there. Also he could have thrown it towards the opposite side of the pitch as it doesnt look like anyone was there |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 8:49:39 GMT
Shocking behaviour by Scunthorpe and they should definitely have allowed Plymouth a walk through goal. Blatantly obvious what Macey was doing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 5, 2019 8:52:48 GMT
On this sort of subject, I've noticed after years of supposedly cracking down, this season especially, it's been perfectly acceptable to kick the ball away at free kicks, and stand over the ball to stop a quick one being taken.
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Post by gas2 on May 5, 2019 8:53:01 GMT
Just imagine what would the touchline would be like if that idiot Adams was still manger there ?
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Post by Langford Gas on May 5, 2019 8:53:22 GMT
Always play to the whistle, plus if Macey was hat injured he could have thrown it out for a corner
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 5, 2019 8:53:35 GMT
Just imagine what would the touchline would be like if that idiot Adams was still manger there ? They'd have been 4-0 down anyway, if Adams had still been there. |
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Post by stapletongas on May 5, 2019 9:04:55 GMT
Although the first time someone put the ball out to help with an injury it was probably a good thing, I bet the very next day someone managed to use it cynically to get an advantage. I'm very happy with the rule that the game doesn't stop unless the ref stops it, and I think players should never give the ball back in these sort of situations. If you do want to put the ball out, then you should resign yourself to losing possession. Problem solved. I’d add an exception which is the ref instructs the ball to be put out of play then the ball should be given back. But otherwise conceding possession seems like a valid price to pay for having an injured player either mended or replaced. There's no need for a ref to instruct a player to put it out, the ref just stops play if there is sufficient concern for a players welfare. I'm with Huggy Bear on this one. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 5, 2019 9:08:17 GMT
I remember something similar happening to us away to Notts County in late 90s.
Ollie (our manager at the time) lost it in a Bristol tirade to the media because that goal actually changed the result. I think we lost the match, can't quite remember.
So the answer to op is, to not be hypocritical,I would hope we would be fair and sporting enough to recognise it would be wrong and not in the spirit of fair play.
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Post by daniel300380 on May 5, 2019 9:15:34 GMT
Apparently when Morris the player who scored the goal was injured during the first half, Plymouth refused to kick the ball out and played on.
Macey didn't look that injured and if he was he should have went down with the ball. The ref would have stopped the game then anyway. Or made sure he found touch, with the ball. So he's at fault really.
Scunthorpe just did what Plymouth did.
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Post by daniel300380 on May 5, 2019 9:17:42 GMT
I remember something similar happening to us away to Notts County in late 90s. Ollie (our manager at the time) lost it in a Bristol tirade to the media because that goal actually changed the result. I think we lost the match, can't quite remember. So the answer to op is, to not be hypocritical,I would hope we would be fair and sporting enough to recognise it would be wrong and not in the spirit of fair play. IMO the notts county incident was worse. We had played the ball out and they didn't pass it back. Lots of teams play on, when a player is injured. Not seen many teams not give the ball back, after its been played out though. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 5, 2019 9:26:26 GMT
To be honest with the circumstances if I seen the opposition keeper go down like that when 2-1 behind, I would assume he was feigning injury and carry on. As it happened, he wasn't feigning injury because he had to come off injured.
Also enjoy league 2 you pilgrims 😂 boom boom, bet James Clarke is enjoying that slice of karma
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