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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 9:58:35 GMT
Like the 16m.we are in debt where do you think that came from.It is a loan from a bank,. Perhaps we should have a look at your accounts because you fail to realise that if you spend more than you earn you are incurring a debt no matter where the money came from but i run my business at a loss because i don't want to pay tax...... yes i know what debt is, its one of the first things i learnt when doing my degree in business management You went through all those years and exams to get a degree and you wasted it by running a shop
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:03:02 GMT
How many supporters joined the SC committee when BBS was our FD? zero? I'm not sure why KM was suddenly become a target, whilst I've never been a fan of his the fact we're losing £3m a year is hardly down to him not challenging the board. If Wael is challenged all he will say is the debts are being taken care of by DS/the ALQ's, how is anybody ever going to prove that won't be the case long term, ask to see their individual banks account statements for evidence? He hasnt become a target per se and of course it isnt his fault we are losing £3m per year. However Jim Chapple (remember maddog on here), knowall and other supporters club members come on here and proudly exclaim what they do, or in maddog's case make unfounded accusations, and for the large part the volunteers do great things, however the top brass of the SC, in the last 12-18 months, have been working an agenda against the club which is potentially more destructive than anything compared to the good they have done. The volunteers underneath them deserve better leadership, the shareholders better value and the fans a better representation. Remember the text severncider had from Ken Masters asking him to spread a malicous rumour? How is that helpful? All the evidence of the texts can be found on here. Would you say the SC is a modern, dynamic and representive view of BRFC supporters? I would say its anything but. Just look at the website itself, its awful. That from a pure marketing perspective is embarrasing. Go to the BRFCSC website and look at the commitee, its an old boys club. KM is being questioned because he is the one elected to sit on the board to represent the fans. Its not personal, but representative of his position and that comes with the territory. You could always do what the late Rod Chapman did and join the club and stand for election,he unfortunately was against bss but still pulled a lot of votes,he put his money where his mouth was,as the saying goes.I pass the offer to you and if you take it up I will do what I did for Rod and help run his campaign.Your move
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
wow such catty personal remarks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:05:49 GMT
He hasnt become a target per se and of course it isnt his fault we are losing £3m per year. However Jim Chapple (remember maddog on here), knowall and other supporters club members come on here and proudly exclaim what they do, or in maddog's case make unfounded accusations, and for the large part the volunteers do great things, however the top brass of the SC, in the last 12-18 months, have been working an agenda against the club which is potentially more destructive than anything compared to the good they have done. The volunteers underneath them deserve better leadership, the shareholders better value and the fans a better representation. Remember the text severncider had from Ken Masters asking him to spread a malicous rumour? How is that helpful? All the evidence of the texts can be found on here. Would you say the SC is a modern, dynamic and representive view of BRFC supporters? I would say its anything but. Just look at the website itself, its awful. That from a pure marketing perspective is embarrasing. Go to the BRFCSC website and look at the commitee, its an old boys club. KM is being questioned because he is the one elected to sit on the board to represent the fans. Its not personal, but representative of his position and that comes with the territory. That text from SevernCider was pure Banned word central. SC is stuck in the 1880’s and should be renamed Black Arabs Supporters Club when they sent messengers with letters. The representative is anti Wael Al Qadi, we all know this. When Hamer is fried at some point in the future Ken is in a very isolated position and that will be the position of the Black Arabs Supporters Club. I would happily join and pay into another independent Supporters club now. Instead of joining one why not go the extra yard and set up an independent supporters club
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:06:48 GMT
wow such catty personal remarks I totally agree. To mention Sant's Grotto, when it's still early June is just inappropriate and wrong. Any mention of Xmas before Dec 1st should result in a ban from the site. Edit * what's mean, I'm banned? What for*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:08:58 GMT
Ok so here are my predictions: - Wael will be in attendance,
- KM will ask him why £3m debts & is it sustainable
- Wael will not give a full answer, but KM will take that answer
- Knowall won't pipe up too much at the time, but will proceed to come on here tomorrow to give his verdict on where we're going
- Severncider will support it
- roady will call them both Offensive
Made me cry 😂😂😂 And don’t forget Ken will tell them we signed Junior Agogo in 2004 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 My god yet another incorrect remark.I said that when listing some of the things the sc have done since our return to Bristol,.Question are you still paying £5 per week into the raise the roof fund?
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Post by Gassy on Jun 11, 2019 10:13:19 GMT
but i run my business at a loss because i don't want to pay tax...... yes i know what debt is, its one of the first things i learnt when doing my degree in business management You went through all those years and exams to get a degree and you wasted it by running a shop You are beyond embarrassing.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 11, 2019 10:15:05 GMT
He hasnt become a target per se and of course it isnt his fault we are losing £3m per year. However Jim Chapple (remember maddog on here), knowall and other supporters club members come on here and proudly exclaim what they do, or in maddog's case make unfounded accusations, and for the large part the volunteers do great things, however the top brass of the SC, in the last 12-18 months, have been working an agenda against the club which is potentially more destructive than anything compared to the good they have done. The volunteers underneath them deserve better leadership, the shareholders better value and the fans a better representation. Remember the text severncider had from Ken Masters asking him to spread a malicous rumour? How is that helpful? All the evidence of the texts can be found on here. Would you say the SC is a modern, dynamic and representive view of BRFC supporters? I would say its anything but. Just look at the website itself, its awful. That from a pure marketing perspective is embarrasing. Go to the BRFCSC website and look at the commitee, its an old boys club. KM is being questioned because he is the one elected to sit on the board to represent the fans. Its not personal, but representative of his position and that comes with the territory. You could always do what the late Rod Chapman did and join the club and stand for election,he unfortunately was against bss but still pulled a lot of votes,he put his money where his mouth was,as the saying goes.I pass the offer to you and if you take it up I will do what I did for Rod and help run his campaign.Your move I know someone who has already tried, but was told no more memberships were taken to stand on the commitee until after the AGM. Conveniently when I suppose it will be too late to do so stand or challenge. Like I said before, its closed off, run by dinosaurs who are frightened to lose their precious status of being connected to the board. If they had the same passion for being positive and impacting a change as they do for coveting their position they may not be seen in such a negative light. Jim Chappell and Ken Masters could also put their positions up for election too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:15:43 GMT
In what way is asking a very pertinent question embarrassing?The time when he got his degree people with those qualifications were in great demand,seems like a wasted education
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:17:13 GMT
You could always do what the late Rod Chapman did and join the club and stand for election,he unfortunately was against bss but still pulled a lot of votes,he put his money where his mouth was,as the saying goes.I pass the offer to you and if you take it up I will do what I did for Rod and help run his campaign.Your move I know someone who has already tried, but was told no more memberships were taken to stand on the commitee until after the AGM. Conveniently when I suppose it will be too late to do so stand or challenge. Like I said before, its closed off, run by dinosaurs who are frightened to lose their precious status of being connected to the board. If they had the same passion for being positive and impacting a change as they do for coveting their position they may not be seen in such a negative light. Jim Chappell and Ken Masters could also put their positions up for election too. So join after the agm and stand for election the following year,not rocket science,or is that just another excuse
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:25:39 GMT
In what way is asking a very pertinent question embarrassing?The time when he got his degree people with those qualifications were in great demand,seems like a wasted education To be honest padstow, it's none of your feckin business. Apologies for the French.
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Post by oddsongas on Jun 11, 2019 10:25:55 GMT
but i run my business at a loss because i don't want to pay tax...... yes i know what debt is, its one of the first things i learnt when doing my degree in business management You went through all those years and exams to get a degree and you wasted it by running a shop Rude
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 11, 2019 10:26:51 GMT
That text from SevernCider was pure Banned word central. SC is stuck in the 1880’s and should be renamed Black Arabs Supporters Club when they sent messengers with letters. The representative is anti Wael Al Qadi, we all know this. When Hamer is fried at some point in the future Ken is in a very isolated position and that will be the position of the Black Arabs Supporters Club. I would happily join and pay into another independent Supporters club now. Instead of joining one why not go the extra yard and set up an independent supporters club Perhaps if that did happen, some might be careful of what they would wish for.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:27:34 GMT
In what way is asking a very pertinent question embarrassing?The time when he got his degree people with those qualifications were in great demand,seems like a wasted education To be honest padstow, it's none of your feckin business. Apologies for the French. In that case he shouldn't boast about it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 10:29:15 GMT
Instead of joining one why not go the extra yard and set up an independent supporters club Perhaps if that did happen, some might be careful of what they would wish for. With all the anti sc people on here yopu should have no problem setting one up,the time is right ,instead of prevarication lets see some action
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 11, 2019 10:33:12 GMT
but i run my business at a loss because i don't want to pay tax...... yes i know what debt is, its one of the first things i learnt when doing my degree in business management You went through all those years and exams to get a degree and you wasted it by running a shop Na it got me a job and career at one of Bristol's Finest which allowed me to qualify as a Computer Systems Analyst and then into management. Also allowed to see parts of the World i would never had gone to, but i can't tell you where because i've signed the Official secrets Act twice. Running and owning one of the oldest computer retailers in Bristol is just fun and when i've had enough i will jack it in and retire to somewhere warm
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 11, 2019 10:34:29 GMT
I know someone who has already tried, but was told no more memberships were taken to stand on the commitee until after the AGM. Conveniently when I suppose it will be too late to do so stand or challenge. Like I said before, its closed off, run by dinosaurs who are frightened to lose their precious status of being connected to the board. If they had the same passion for being positive and impacting a change as they do for coveting their position they may not be seen in such a negative light. Jim Chappell and Ken Masters could also put their positions up for election too. So join after the agm and stand for election the following year,not rocket science,or is that just another excuse It would be pointless joining something that has no vision and with people I have no confidence in, as it stands, its a lame duck. Thats not an excuse, but my opinion, and clearly, one that is shared by many on here. That is no slight on the volunteers whatsoever, they deserve full credit for what they do. But the leadership of them. Lets be clear on that. I think you would find if they (being the SC) put the chairmanship and directorship up for election, with the opportunity for themselves to be reappointed of course, not only would the supporters club gain new members, but you may even find better candidates who could move it forward. And if they were re-elected, perhaps you could say they were the best people for the job. And if they were, that would perhaps also so prove the limted future the SC really has. But im willing to bet that Jim Chapell will be carried out in his coffin before he would have the balls to do that.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 11, 2019 10:40:27 GMT
Herein lies the problem or, as the bard would say, there’s the rub. swissgas I always follow your posts with great interest as you have been involved and also have much more knowledge that your average poster. Do you think DS would be receptive to outside investment at this point in time ? Thanks KP. I have no inside contacts at Rovers any more so my contributions are based on assessing the situation and coming to a judgement. No, I don’t think DS would be receptive to investment and neither do I think anyone would be interested in coming in as a minority shareholder. Who would want a partner with such an appalling record of running the business over the past three years and (according to the accounts just released) with no plan to get out of the financial mess they created ? Those who maintain faith in Wael are getting edgy and irritable. I think they know a plan is about to be put forward which will give Gasheads hope and when it is they want Wael to respond with a better plan of his own. He has had over three years to come up with something and we would surely all love it if he did unveil his own detailed and costed plan so we had two options to consider. But the likelihood is, as his supporters well know, that Wael will respond with the usual bluster and blather and the result could be that Gasheads will then turn on other Gasheads in a senseless kind of civil war. Wael has had a fair chance. If new people put forward a viable proposal to build Rovers a new stadium and to restore our dignity then IMO we should support it. Dwane Sports own the land at the Mem but elected representatives determine what the land can be used for and hence its value. If Gasheads are united then we have a good chance of coming together with the wider community to achieve a sensible outcome to the difficulties we are in and one which is reasonable for all the parties involved. Thank you swissgas. Seems like only yesterday that we got promoted to this league and had such momentum, the likes of I haven’t felt since Don Megson and promotion to what is now the championship. We lost a golden opportunity, in my opinion, in not pushing on with on the pitch matters. I think that if we see good football and are at least challenging for a play off spot, we get much less moaning. I think success starts with a team that is playing well & forcing the agenda. Just my opinion of course
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 11, 2019 10:49:22 GMT
You know when you're having a pillow fight and theres a bit where someone hits the other a bit too hard and then before you know it there are punches being thrown and Offensive everywhere?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:00:39 GMT
You know when you're having a pillow fight and theres a bit where someone hits the other a bit too hard and then before you know it there are punches being thrown and Offensive everywhere? Aye, or when the pillow fight gets to the point where you just want to win, so you slip a housebrick into the pillowcase..........or is that just me?
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