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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 11, 2019 13:22:27 GMT
To be honest padstow, it's none of your feckin business. Apologies for the French. In that case he shouldn't boast about it Boast ? You asked me if i know what debt is, i answered you
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 11, 2019 13:25:00 GMT
I'm a big fan of the notion there are goodies and baddies in this, to me everything to do with the club and supporters club reeks of incompetence. It's almost endearing how utterly sh**e we are from top to bottom. There may just be baddies and baddies.
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 11, 2019 13:25:13 GMT
I'm a big fan of the notion there are goodies and baddies in this, to me everything to do with the club and supporters club reeks of incompetence. It's almost endearing how utterly sh**e we are from top to bottom. Chewwy, just check out who are wearing white hats, and who are wearing black hats tonight. That's always a sign to look out for.
All look like baddies to me, bar the nice wee lass with the buns.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 11, 2019 13:25:57 GMT
In that case he shouldn't boast about it Boast ? You asked me if i know what debt is, i answered you Apparently if you mention you have a degree it's instant boasting. I was speaking with someone on here about a franchise once, they asked if I knew what one was - I said yes, I learnt it at uni. He then carried on to say how much I was boasting about it. Oops look at me go, boasting about it again
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 11, 2019 13:29:52 GMT
Boast ? You asked me if i know what debt is, i answered you Apparently if you mention you have a degree it's instant boasting. I was speaking with someone on here about a franchise once, they asked if I knew what one was - I said yes, I learnt it at uni. He then carried on to say how much I was boasting about it. Oops look at me go, boasting about it again lol I was Lucky, Part of my Apprenticeship with BAe was doing Further Education ( in my own time ) , paid for by them. Took 5 years of Night time graft 2 nights a week. was well worth it in the End
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 13:29:53 GMT
In that case he shouldn't boast about it Boast ? You asked me if i know what debt is, i answered you You over educated buffoon Henbury!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 11, 2019 13:30:42 GMT
Boast ? You asked me if i know what debt is, i answered you You over educated buffoon Henbury! Can't even spell Engineer, now i are one !
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Post by singupgas on Jun 11, 2019 13:32:33 GMT
I'm a big fan of the notion there are goodies and baddies in this, to me everything to do with the club and supporters club reeks of incompetence. It's almost endearing how utterly sh**e we are from top to bottom. You're right, and even roady and daniel surely can't defend how much of a shambles things appear to be if we all come on here so regularly and wrongly or rightly spout our own twist on things. The club needs a clear plan, not more confidentiality bollocks. Wael credibility as someone who can take the club forward is suffering each time he talks into a microphone. I think we would all respect reality of things more if he said at the time we aren't looking at Training Ground or Stadium. Then i think as paying customer, we would be within our right to ask if he will sell to someone who might. Can only hope this evening AGM is encouraging, i want Wael and Co to do well, but struggling to see how we are that much better than we were 3 years ago :/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 13:36:35 GMT
Chewwy, just check out who are wearing white hats, and who are wearing black hats tonight. That's always a sign to look out for.
All look like baddies to me, bar the nice wee lass with the buns.
Now I'm confused !
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Post by Gassy on Jun 11, 2019 13:39:26 GMT
Apparently if you mention you have a degree it's instant boasting. I was speaking with someone on here about a franchise once, they asked if I knew what one was - I said yes, I learnt it at uni. He then carried on to say how much I was boasting about it. Oops look at me go, boasting about it again lol I was Lucky, Part of my Apprenticeship with BAe was doing Further Education ( in my own time ) , paid for by them. Took 5 years of Night time graft 2 nights a week. was well worth it in the End Stuff that! Was thinking of doing a masters, but I really cannot be bothered to go through the stress whilst working full time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 13:49:45 GMT
lol I was Lucky, Part of my Apprenticeship with BAe was doing Further Education ( in my own time ) , paid for by them. Took 5 years of Night time graft 2 nights a week. was well worth it in the End Stuff that! Was thinking of doing ken masters, but I really cannot be bothered to go through the stress whilst working full time. Well, a full-on declaration like that should be kept to yourself I think.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 11, 2019 13:53:33 GMT
Stuff that! Was thinking of doing ken masters, but I really cannot be bothered to go through the stress whilst working full time. Well, a full-on declaration like that should be kept to yourself I think. Different type of doing. I'm after his job
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 13:56:07 GMT
Well, a full-on declaration like that should be kept to yourself I think. Different type of doing. I'm after his job Good come back
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Post by knowall on Jun 11, 2019 13:57:07 GMT
There you have it folks, deflect attention away from the financial failures in the Company by attacking the sector of BRFC who actually do make a profit and bring real income into the mix. The attack on those who devote hours of their time freely, is quite frankly disgraceful, especially by those who are not prepared to do the same and also by those who are being paid by the Club. Eric Godfrey, who was Chairman of the Supporters Club so many years ago, was invited onto the Board of BRFC to represent the views of supporters when the Supporters paid for the North stand at Eastville. More recently, the Supporters Club paid the Club, as did the President's Club, to have representation in the Boardroom. The Dunfords accepted those donations because they recognised the value of reaching out to the wider support via that representation. Jim Chappell and Ken Masters are representatives of the SC and are voted for by the SC members and therefore deserve full respect by the Football Club. Those representations were effective in the raising of finance for the Football Club via the share scheme and for the purchase of The Memorial Stadium, both which effectively have helped when it was desperately needed. Unfortunately, the current owners and their close associates, have clearly stated that they do not require help, while all the time are happy for supporters to continue to fund aspects of the business of the Football Club. The original question (not a demand) posed by this thread is for the owner to explain to the shareholders, how the club is to progress in view of the fact that the Club is heavily in debt, languishing in the third tier of football and is crying out for modern facilities. In other words 'What is the plan? or 'Is there a plan?I hope we will get some answers rather than a continued concerted attack on the supporters members and their elected representatives. But You know the plan don’t you Knowall? You have said for the last 6 months + that there is one. If you know the plan, you know they have one. In which case your asking if there is a plan is irrelevant and the Owners will tell the rest of the fan base when it is signed and sealed. So there is no attempt at deflection, what is it you know about the plan for the future? And name your source too? If you are directly involved, say so. The “attack” on the supporters club is calling them out as you are the ALQs. If they truely represent the fans and are a mouthpiece they will have no qualms in doing so. Firstly, as you like to point out, I am not the major shareholder, I am just a minor shareholder, who also represents other shareholders. It is not therefore for me to reveal any details of what may or may not be ahead, that is for the majority shareholders, who are the owners. Many shareholders are concerned about the financial and other matters and all I hope is that the majority shareholder (owner) addresses those concerns tonight, which is the correct place to do so.
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Post by Severncider on Jun 11, 2019 13:57:20 GMT
He hasnt become a target per se and of course it isnt his fault we are losing £3m per year. However Jim Chapple (remember maddog on here), knowall and other supporters club members come on here and proudly exclaim what they do, or in maddog's case make unfounded accusations, and for the large part the volunteers do great things, however the top brass of the SC, in the last 12-18 months, have been working an agenda against the club which is potentially more destructive than anything compared to the good they have done. The volunteers underneath them deserve better leadership, the shareholders better value and the fans a better representation. Remember the text severncider had from Ken Masters asking him to spread a malicous rumour? How is that helpful? All the evidence of the texts can be found on here. Would you say the SC is a modern, dynamic and representive view of BRFC supporters? I would say its anything but. Just look at the website itself, its awful. That from a pure marketing perspective is embarrasing. Go to the BRFCSC website and look at the commitee, its an old boys club. KM is being questioned because he is the one elected to sit on the board to represent the fans. Its not personal, but representative of his position and that comes with the territory. That text from SevernCider was pure Banned word central. SC is stuck in the 1880’s and should be renamed Black Arabs Supporters Club when they sent messengers with letters. The representative is anti Wael Al Qadi, we all know this. When Hamer is fried at some point in the future Ken is in a very isolated position and that will be the position of the Black Arabs Supporters Club. I would happily join and pay into another independent Supporters club now. I will be supporting BRFC long after ALL the current Directors have been removed from the Board. Hopefully the good news Knowall has suggested will happen shortly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:03:19 GMT
What specifically is the good news?
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 11, 2019 14:04:32 GMT
Major Share Holder: I look down on him because I am Major Share Holder. Minor Share Holder: I look up to him because he is a Major Share Holder; but I look down on him because he is a Non-ITK Forum Poster. I am a Minor Share Holder Non-ITK Forum Poster: I know my place. I look up to them both. But I don't look up to him, as much as I look upto him, because he has got innate breeding. Major Share Holder: I have got innate breeding, but I have not got any money. So sometimes I look up to him. Minor Share Holder: I still look up to him because although I have money, I am vulgar. But I am not as vulgar as him so I still look down on him. Non-ITK Forum Poster: I know my place. I look up to them both; but while I am poor, I am honest, industrious and trustworthy. Had I the inclination, I could look down on them. But I don't. Minor Share Holder: We all know our place, but what do we get out of it? Major Share Holder: I get a feeling of superiority over them. Minor Share Holder: I get a feeling of inferiority from him, but afeeling of superiority over him. Non-ITK Forum Poster: I get a pain in the back of my neck.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 11, 2019 14:14:03 GMT
I'm a big fan of the notion there are goodies and baddies in this, to me everything to do with the club and supporters club reeks of incompetence. It's almost endearing how utterly sh**e we are from top to bottom. You're right, and even roady and daniel surely can't defend how much of a shambles things appear to be if we all come on here so regularly and wrongly or rightly spout our own twist on things. The club needs a clear plan, not more confidentiality bollocks. Wael credibility as someone who can take the club forward is suffering each time he talks into a microphone. I think we would all respect reality of things more if he said at the time we aren't looking at Training Ground or Stadium. Then i think as paying customer, we would be within our right to ask if he will sell to someone who might.
Can only hope this evening AGM is encouraging, i want Wael and Co to do well, but struggling to see how we are that much better than we were 3 years ago :/ I think if Wael said we weren't looking at either, the fanbase wouldn't respect anything, there would be a riot. But anyway, Wael has already confirmed that we're looking at sites & that the club is essentially for sale if someone can build us a stadium quicker than the current owners can.
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Post by Langford Gas on Jun 11, 2019 14:14:30 GMT
But You know the plan don’t you Knowall? You have said for the last 6 months + that there is one. If you know the plan, you know they have one. In which case your asking if there is a plan is irrelevant and the Owners will tell the rest of the fan base when it is signed and sealed. So there is no attempt at deflection, what is it you know about the plan for the future? And name your source too? If you are directly involved, say so. The “attack” on the supporters club is calling them out as you are the ALQs. If they truely represent the fans and are a mouthpiece they will have no qualms in doing so. Firstly, as you like to point out, I am not the major shareholder, I am just a minor shareholder, who also represents other shareholders. It is not therefore for me to reveal any details of what may or may not be ahead, that is for the majority shareholders, who are the owners. Many shareholders are concerned about the financial and other matters and all I hope is that the majority shareholder (owner) addresses those concerns tonight, which is the correct place to do so. But surely regardless of Major or Minor, as a member of the supporters club,a shareholder and a committed Gashead with the best interests of the club and its future, it is a pertinent question for the room tonight for confirmation that what you believe to be happening has any validity ? That would be my question regardless of how many shares I had
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 14:15:23 GMT
What specifically is the good news? Nooooooooooooooooooo!
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