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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2019 12:26:27 GMT
That extra 2, makes all the difference. Definitely, we like to get things right and certainly none of this bullshit malarkey allowed on here ever! You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. Jack Nicolson 1992.
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Post by bluecamel on Aug 5, 2019 13:05:34 GMT
Thanks Station duly noted, just a gentle reminder that Saturday's news was indicated in my original post two months ago.
For what its worth - outside investors 2 off - plus internal interest [input] - the vote would be the green light, the fact Wael has now gone public, could mean we are close, or he has totally lost the plot and spilt the news in error?
Time will tell. Keep your fingers crossed, but the bit I know is worthy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 15:35:55 GMT
Thanks Station duly noted, just a gentle reminder that Saturday's news was indicated in my original post two months ago. For what its worth - outside investors 2 off - plus internal interest [input] - the vote would be the green light, the fact Wael has now gone public, could mean we are close, or he has totally lost the plot and spilt the news in error? Time will tell. Keep your fingers crossed, but the bit I know is worthy. For anyone with any semblance of sense, it would have been quite obvious that any large project would require outside investors and I would suggest our owners being bankers would be in a better position than some of attracting that investment if the income streams of their proposal stood up to investors due diligence.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 5, 2019 15:35:57 GMT
Thanks Station duly noted, just a gentle reminder that Saturday's news was indicated in my original post two months ago. For what its worth - outside investors 2 off - plus internal interest [input] - the vote would be the green light, the fact Wael has now gone public, could mean we are close, or he has totally lost the plot and spilt the news in error? Time will tell. Keep your fingers crossed, but the bit I know is worthy. Is Wael actually included and party to all these negotiations, or is he being kept at arms length and not told too much?
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Post by tomylil on Aug 5, 2019 15:38:34 GMT
Isn't going to happen is it ?
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 5, 2019 15:43:46 GMT
Thanks Station duly noted, just a gentle reminder that Saturday's news was indicated in my original post two months ago. For what its worth - outside investors 2 off - plus internal interest [input] - the vote would be the green light, the fact Wael has now gone public, could mean we are close, or he has totally lost the plot and spilt the news in error? Time will tell. Keep your fingers crossed, but the bit I know is worthy. Is Wael actually included and party to all these negotiations, or is he being kept at arms length and not told too much? As I posted on the other thread, do you really think he would say anything if he wasn't (a) informed (b) knew exactly at what point we were at during negotiations (c) had the authority to speak about it from the parties concerned? If the answer was no to all of those questions then it puts the whole deal in jeopardy. Would he really act with such negligence or without thought? This is more than just brownie points at play. If anything I would say it was completely pre-mediated, with good authority knowing exactly where we are at. If he did say something without authority, would he also not be in breach of his NDA, which he has said before he is bound by? Im pretty sure we would have heard something by now if that was the case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 15:44:18 GMT
Thanks Station duly noted, just a gentle reminder that Saturday's news was indicated in my original post two months ago. For what its worth - outside investors 2 off - plus internal interest [input] - the vote would be the green light, the fact Wael has now gone public, could mean we are close, or he has totally lost the plot and spilt the news in error? Time will tell. Keep your fingers crossed, but the bit I know is worthy. Is Wael actually included and party to all these negotiations, or is he being kept at arms length and not told too much? As he is our owner, I would hazard a guess that the answer to your question is yes.
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Post by bluecamel on Aug 5, 2019 15:51:06 GMT
Wael is involved - 2 outside investors with credibility in this field
CIC & LS ……
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Post by womble on Aug 5, 2019 15:57:33 GMT
Wael is involved - 2 outside investors with credibility in this field CIC & LS …… China Investment Corporation? Lansdown Stephen?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 20:57:10 GMT
Wael is involved - 2 outside investors with credibility in this field CIC & LS …… I'm surprised we haven't had heaps of suggestions as to who CIC and LS might be. Unless by CIC you're meaning a Community Interest Company? Answers on a postcard please..........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 21:38:20 GMT
Wael is involved - 2 outside investors with credibility in this field CIC & LS …… I'm surprised we haven't had heaps of suggestions as to who CIC and LS might be. Unless by CIC you're meaning a Community Interest Company? Answers on a postcard please.......... CIC as you say my good friend and LS , Lancer Scott a Bristol based builders who sponsor one of our stands/tents if my memory serves me well.
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Post by Westy on Aug 5, 2019 21:43:58 GMT
Wael is involved - 2 outside investors with credibility in this field CIC & LS …… China Investment Corporation? Lansdown Stephen? You know, thinking of Chinese investment has got me thinking. Perhaps there could be a while 100% eco green project. Capatlise (boom-tsk!) on the Bristol's green capital a few years ago to outside investors as a ground breaking (boom-tsk) purpose built environmentally friendly stadium/arena/hotel and conference centre. Could be a winner in the eyes of community support, council appeasement, and investors involved the chance to be part of a real important step forward in building design and eco initiatives?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 23:37:20 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't had heaps of suggestions as to who CIC and LS might be. Unless by CIC you're meaning a Community Interest Company? Answers on a postcard please.......... CIC as you say my good friend and LS , Lancer Scott a Bristol based builders who sponsor one of our stands/tents if my memory serves me well. Hmm, Lancer Scott could be a good shout.
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Aug 6, 2019 5:26:34 GMT
China Investment Corporation? Lansdown Stephen? You know, thinking of Chinese investment has got me thinking. Perhaps there could be a while 100% eco green project. Capatlise (boom-tsk!) on the Bristol's green capital a few years ago to outside investors as a ground breaking (boom-tsk) purpose built environmentally friendly stadium/arena/hotel and conference centre. Could be a winner in the eyes of community support, council appeasement, and investors involved the chance to be part of a real important step forward in building design and eco initiatives? Might get the Green Party on side?
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Post by Westy on Aug 6, 2019 7:00:43 GMT
You know, thinking of Chinese investment has got me thinking. Perhaps there could be a while 100% eco green project. Capatlise (boom-tsk!) on the Bristol's green capital a few years ago to outside investors as a ground breaking (boom-tsk) purpose built environmentally friendly stadium/arena/hotel and conference centre. Could be a winner in the eyes of community support, council appeasement, and investors involved the chance to be part of a real important step forward in building design and eco initiatives? Might get the Green Party on side? I totally feel like that could be a real good angle to work considering the sentiment of a lot Bristol, especially the kind of people who like to write against planning permission letters, and a starting point to keeping a raft of considerations like local community impact (I know nobody lives near the Fruit Market but I think there may be enough people on the Bath Road to put up a good NIMBY fight
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Post by tomylil on Aug 6, 2019 10:07:51 GMT
Might get the Green Party on side? I totally feel like that could be a real good angle to work considering the sentiment of a lot Bristol, especially the kind of people who like to write against planning permission letters, and a starting point to keeping a raft of considerations like local community impact (I know nobody lives near the Fruit Market but I think there may be enough people on the Bath Road to put up a good NIMBY fight There will shortly be around 1,000 people living in relatively high end apartments in Paintworks just across the Feeder and that area could be used as a walk through by home and away fans. The mere suggestion of litter, graffiti and violence possibly occurring on private land will mean nimby's will be out big time and we all saw how effective they were at Ashton Vale. Wasn't the arena knocked back because of traffic and infrastructrure issues or was there a more nefarious reason why Marvellous Marvin didn't back it ? With potentially double the numbers of spectators compared to the arena, and sh** roads I cannot see any way this will happen. As for the consortium, Lancer Scott would presumably want to build the stadium ? They made an operating profit of £2.6m year ending 30th September 2018 so not exactly flush are they. Also a community investment company exists for the benefit of the community. I daresay that members of the community of the red persuasion may be lobbying the regulator on the community benefits arising out of funding a stadium for a private company that already has a stadium that it doesn't fill. Also the Greens are anti sport and would i'm sure put up a compelling case that there are more deserving causes that benefit the wider community. Presumably the various businesses that own the market won't simply pack it in, so will need a pretty central location to continue trading ? Where will that be then, and how much would the replacement land cost ? It would have to be a lot less than the value of the market otherwise why bother but frankly I can't think of anywhere offering such a central location at a cheaper cost. More smoke and mirrors by Wael I fear.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 10:14:34 GMT
I miss the days of a good old judicial review.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 10:18:25 GMT
Are there still FA development grants available to help fund stadium projects? I'm not sure we have ever used these so would there be a sizeable accumulated pot available to us?
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Post by Gassy on Aug 6, 2019 10:30:21 GMT
Are there still FA development grants available to help fund stadium projects? I'm not sure we have ever used these so would there be a sizeable accumulated pot available to us? Yeah but it's not huge, minimal I believe. Their annual budget is £6.5m en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Football_Stadia_Improvement_FundThe highest investment was £2m to York
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Post by tomylil on Aug 6, 2019 10:32:47 GMT
Are there still FA development grants available to help fund stadium projects? I'm not sure we have ever used these so would there be a sizeable accumulated pot available to us? I think the money is aimed more at grass roots football rarher than professional clubs, and I cannot imagine any pot has accumulated as the FA would be sitting on billions bearing in mind all the other clubs who haven't had a grant to build a stadium. Fact is, we are in a 2 club city so we are on our own unless private investment is secured.That investmant will expect a return and won't want to sit around too long to start seeing it unless it is a vanity project like people think is Lansdown's game (they would be wrong).
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