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Post by stuartcampbell on Aug 28, 2019 23:05:55 GMT
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm pointing out how fickle our fans' opinions seem to be. After 3 games he's immediately the worst player in the world, and Walsall fans were all right! We don't have enough evidence to say either way so far. But based on his average off of the player ratings thread (a 6.06). That's only slightly worse than Holmes-Dennis (6.44) and Kelly (6.12) from last season. So his performances do hardly fill the "he's the worst defender we've had in 20 years" quota If Luke Leahy is the ‘worst left back we’ve ever had’, someone hasn’t been watching Rovers for very long. No, you misunderstand me. Walsall fans said that about Leahy and people have said they were right about him, and they're definitely not.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 28, 2019 23:14:57 GMT
If Luke Leahy is the ‘worst left back we’ve ever had’, someone hasn’t been watching Rovers for very long. No, you misunderstand me. Walsall fans said that about Leahy and people have said they were right about him, and they're definitely not. I know. Was referring to the nay sayers, not yourself. You’re clearly a fellow wise one and rate him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 23:34:52 GMT
We’ve got a long way to go until we have the wealth of evidence that Walsall fan had to judge him on. As such I still suspect they were right. To put it another way it’s like Payne having one good game for Tranmere and that invalidates Rovers fans opinions, I’m sure you would agree that that would not be correct. Or Walsall fans writing Clarke off as rubbish because he lost a couple of games. Pompey fans seem to have Bennett summed up pretty well too. So from my POV, opposition fans usually aren’t too far wide of the mark I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm pointing out how fickle our fans' opinions seem to be. After 3 games he's immediately the worst player in the world, and Walsall fans were all right! We don't have enough evidence to say either way so far. But based on his average off of the player ratings thread (a 6.06). That's only slightly worse than Holmes-Dennis (6.44) and Kelly (6.12) from last season. So his performances do hardly fill the "he's the worst defender we've had in 20 years" quota Were people actually saying he's literally the worst? If so then fair enough, I thought it was a general complaint that we signed him from a relegated club (which didn't seem to a good sign so soon after Upson), he contributed to goals conceded within the first 3 games and fans of his previous team were quite critical....but the worst? I think he still has some way to go to compete with the likes of Danny Boxall etc.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 17:17:49 GMT
Both goals from his side again. Its been coming. Stands off his man too much and gets beat too easily. Only good asset it crossing. Walsall fans pretty accurate with their assessment.
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Post by pirate on Jan 18, 2020 17:21:02 GMT
Yeah we get it Gas Go Marching In, you don't rate Leahy.
He's actually done ok since signing. Better going forward than defensively, but that was known before he joined.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 17:22:46 GMT
Yeah we get it @ Gas Go Marching In, you don't rate Leahy. He's actually done ok since signing. Better going forward than defensively, but that was known before he joined. We also get that you like to recommend nearly every player going. Well you wanted Leahy and Garner. Not exactly going well is it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 17:23:22 GMT
Yeah we get it @ Gas Go Marching In, you don't rate Leahy. He's actually done ok since signing. Better going forward than defensively, but that was known before he joined. With respect though mate he’s signed to be a defender. He seems to think the best way of stopping a winger is to stand off, make himself big and try and block the cross but it’s too easily played around.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 18, 2020 17:25:22 GMT
Both goals from his side again. Its been coming. Stands off his man too much and gets beat too easily. Only good asset it crossing. Walsall fans pretty accurate with their assessment. You were oddly quiet about Leahy during his run in the team that barely saw us lose a game. That Walsall fan jibe really got under your skin, didn't it.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 17:27:14 GMT
Both goals from his side again. Its been coming. Stands off his man too much and gets beat too easily. Only good asset it crossing. Walsall fans pretty accurate with their assessment. You were oddly quiet about Leahy during his run in the team that barely saw us lose a game. That Walsall fan jibe really got under your skin, didn't it. Walsall fans were spot on. His crossing is good but he is defensively very poor. We can't have him in the team purely on his crossing. Rotherham targeted that side today because they knew it too. He looked OK when we were doing well but now we are struggling he is getting exposed, badly.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 18, 2020 17:33:17 GMT
You were oddly quiet about Leahy during his run in the team that barely saw us lose a game. That Walsall fan jibe really got under your skin, didn't it. Walsall fans were spot on. His crossing is good but he is defensively very poor. We can't have him in the team purely on his crossing. Rotherham targeted that side today because they knew it too. He looked OK when we were doing well but now we are struggling he is getting exposed, badly. You were very quiet when he was doing well. Now the team has been shook up a bit and there's a bit of disarray, you couldn't wait to come here and stick the knife in and pretend you were vindicated. Poor show.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 17:34:07 GMT
Walsall fans were spot on. His crossing is good but he is defensively very poor. We can't have him in the team purely on his crossing. Rotherham targeted that side today because they knew it too. He looked OK when we were doing well but now we are struggling he is getting exposed, badly. You were very quiet when he was doing well. Now the team has been shook up a bit and there's a bit of disarray, you couldn't wait to come here and stick the knife in and pretend you were vindicated. Poor show. Poor show indeed from Leaky Leahy today. Suggest you watch the highlights, you might find you agree with me.
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Post by pirate on Jan 18, 2020 17:36:48 GMT
Yeah we get it @ Gas Go Marching In, you don't rate Leahy. He's actually done ok since signing. Better going forward than defensively, but that was known before he joined. We also get that you like to recommend nearly every player going. Well you wanted Leahy and Garner. Not exactly going well is it! I didn't want Garner with this appointment as I have pointed out here: gaschat.co.uk/post/574042But when I did, you were also "happy enough with him" as you said here: gaschat.co.uk/post/462348
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 18, 2020 17:39:26 GMT
We also get that you like to recommend nearly every player going. Well you wanted Leahy and Garner. Not exactly going well is it! I didn't want Garner with this appointment as I have pointed out here: gaschat.co.uk/post/574042But when I did, you were also "happy enough with him" as you said here: gaschat.co.uk/post/462348There's a difference between being happy enough with him and ramming the bloke's name down everyone's throats on here. Who knows, maybe he will come good? The evidence is pointing otherwise so far but we shall see. Seems to be like maybe he is a coach and not a manager, a bit likes Trolls was?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 18, 2020 17:41:53 GMT
You were very quiet when he was doing well. Now the team has been shook up a bit and there's a bit of disarray, you couldn't wait to come here and stick the knife in and pretend you were vindicated. Poor show. Poor show indeed from Leaky Leahy today. Suggest you watch the highlights, you might find you agree with me. I'm not talking about Leahy, I'm talking about you.
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Post by pirate on Jan 18, 2020 17:46:47 GMT
There's a difference between being happy enough with him and ramming the bloke's name down everyone's throats on here. Who knows, maybe he will come good? The evidence is pointing otherwise so far but we shall see. Seems to be like maybe he is a coach and not a manager, a bit likes Trolls was? Your perception. No ramming of the blokes name down anyones throats from me, just a thread and discussion pointing out his experience and potential qualities. I hope he does come good, but obviously things couldn't have started any worse on or off the pitch. I won't judge him until he has had a couple of windows and a pre-season to get his ideas across.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2020 18:08:24 GMT
There's a difference between being happy enough with him and ramming the bloke's name down everyone's throats on here. Who knows, maybe he will come good? The evidence is pointing otherwise so far but we shall see. Seems to be like maybe he is a coach and not a manager, a bit likes Trolls was? Your perception. No ramming of the blokes name down anyones throats from me, just a thread and discussion pointing out his experience and potential qualities. I hope he does come good, but obviously things couldn't have started any worse on or off the pitch. I won't judge him until he has had a couple of windows and a pre-season to get his ideas across. Do you seriously think he'll get that long?
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Post by pirate on Jan 18, 2020 18:11:46 GMT
Your perception. No ramming of the blokes name down anyones throats from me, just a thread and discussion pointing out his experience and potential qualities. I hope he does come good, but obviously things couldn't have started any worse on or off the pitch. I won't judge him until he has had a couple of windows and a pre-season to get his ideas across. Do you seriously think he'll get that long? Probably not, but if they want him to change the style of play like Starnes and co. have intimated, then he should be given the time and resources to do it.
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Post by madgas on Jan 18, 2020 18:24:07 GMT
There's a difference between being happy enough with him and ramming the bloke's name down everyone's throats on here. Who knows, maybe he will come good? The evidence is pointing otherwise so far but we shall see. Seems to be like maybe he is a coach and not a manager, a bit likes Trolls was? Your perception. No ramming of the blokes name down anyones throats from me, just a thread and discussion pointing out his experience and potential qualities. I hope he does come good, but obviously things couldn't have started any worse on or off the pitch. I won't judge him until he has had a couple of windows and a pre-season to get his ideas across. Your right Garner needs time. Most managers do. Pep needed a season despite a crazy advantage. However- 2 weeks ago you did call him spineless.
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Post by pirate on Jan 18, 2020 18:29:57 GMT
Your perception. No ramming of the blokes name down anyones throats from me, just a thread and discussion pointing out his experience and potential qualities. I hope he does come good, but obviously things couldn't have started any worse on or off the pitch. I won't judge him until he has had a couple of windows and a pre-season to get his ideas across. Your right Garner needs time. Most managers do. Pep needed a season despite a crazy advantage. However- 2 weeks ago you did call him spineless. Things are said or written in the heat of the moment that we later regret and that was one of them.
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Post by madgas on Jan 18, 2020 18:32:22 GMT
Your right Garner needs time. Most managers do. Pep needed a season despite a crazy advantage. However- 2 weeks ago you did call him spineless. Things are said or written in the heat of the moment that we later regret and that was one of them. Fair- and I didnt doubt it. You're a decent poster. We all have some- I said Payne would be a Gaffney upgrade... For all the bollocks spoken on here I not sure I've been topped.
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