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Post by peterparker on Jul 29, 2019 7:18:33 GMT
Back to the circular argument but
If the SC are that irked and represent 25% on GIs numbers than what are they saying and doing to make their voice heard
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Post by chewbacca on Jul 29, 2019 7:39:57 GMT
Back to the circular argument but If the SC are that irked and represent 25% on GIs numbers than what are they saying and doing to make their voice heard √F*ck all.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 29, 2019 8:00:49 GMT
F*cking hell - roll on Saturday...
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2019 8:01:18 GMT
Have had a look on the supporters club website and can not find details on the player of the year awards. Out of interest who was their player of the year, James Clarke possibly? If so, that would have been a pointless exercise. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick and gasincider is talking about the last home game of the season when the awards are usually presented. I can not remember if they were, usually done before kick off? Come on Ken, there's a few questions for you? Knowall tells us that Ken Masters is much more up to date with things at the club than we are and Ken hasn't said anything so everything must be fine. Why doesnt Gasincider take it up with his rep on the board who clearly has no issue with how things are run?
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Post by Severncider on Jul 29, 2019 8:05:37 GMT
Have had a look on the supporters club website and can not find details on the player of the year awards. Out of interest who was their player of the year, James Clarke possibly? If so, that would have been a pointless exercise. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick and gasincider is talking about the last home game of the season when the awards are usually presented. I can not remember if they were, usually done before kick off? Come on Ken, there's a few questions for you? Knowall tells us that Ken Masters is much more up to date with things at the club than we are and Ken hasn't said anything so everything must be fine. Why doesnt Gasincider take it up with his rep on the board who clearly has no issue with how things are run? Perhaps Ken is not/unable to raise some of his concerns in public.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 29, 2019 8:27:48 GMT
Knowall tells us that Ken Masters is much more up to date with things at the club than we are and Ken hasn't said anything so everything must be fine. Why doesnt Gasincider take it up with his rep on the board who clearly has no issue with how things are run? Perhaps Ken is not/unable to raise some of his concerns in public. He’s never had any problems with that before? The infamous text message springs to mind...
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 29, 2019 9:13:20 GMT
Thought it was very sad that GC feels that some fans are being critical of some of the new signings and general negativity surrounding the club etc etc. Today i went along to the open day, and I must admit I haven't seen or heard much in the way of criticism by fans at the friendlies or indeed on here, not that I read most of the stuff on here. So imagine my surprise when I was told today that the supporters club wanted to do a pitchside presentation of last seasons player of the year awards, but were refused permission to do so , presumably by either Gorringe, Starnes or both. Remember, the supporters club represent over 25% of our fan base, and it would therefore have been another big positive ahead of next weeks season opener. I wonder if it's this sort of thing that GC was on about when he said about all pulling together. Not everyone feels the need to join or generally support the Supporters Club, but as they represent such a large part of our fan base, shouldn't the club be trying to nurture them as opposed to seemingly wishing to see them diminish? The presentations would only have taken about 10 minutes to complete, so I fail to see how they could have interrupted the scheduling in any way. Indeed, there were several quite lengthy intervals during the proceedings when they could have been done with no disruption at all. It seems to me that this is another own goal, and would have been so easy to avoid. I hope that one of the powers that be can comment as to why a simple positive request was ludicrously turned down? Is the part a joke, about not seeing much criticism of our signings etc?? Are you not on social media at all?? Loads of fans have been moaning about every little thing. Your post highlights that. Instead of pulling together, you try and cause more unrest, within the club. Couldn't make this stuff up lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 9:39:33 GMT
Knowall tells us that Ken Masters is much more up to date with things at the club than we are and Ken hasn't said anything so everything must be fine. Why doesnt Gasincider take it up with his rep on the board who clearly has no issue with how things are run? Perhaps Ken is not/unable to raise some of his concerns in public. If that's the case who is he going to tell his concerns to? The man is only in it for himself, certainly not to represent the members of the SC. At least BSS when in the role, communicated with the fan base and in some cases got things done.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 29, 2019 9:48:24 GMT
Perhaps Ken is not/unable to raise some of his concerns in public. If that's the case who is he going to tell his concerns to? The man is only in it for himself, certainly not to represent the members of the SC. At least BSS when in the role, communicated with the fan base and in some cases got things done. Absolutely. And when Gasincider and others were piping up at the AGM with some fairly inaccurate and obnoxious remarks, Ken did nothing to defuse the situation between board and minority shareholders/supporters club. That in itself is weak leadership. A complete inept inability to control what you are assigned to do and the people you represent. As he effectively is part of the board, he should have stood up, firstly calmed the situation and atmosphere and organised each member to invite questions calmly, respectfully and with complete tact instead of having 1 person gob off persistently. The whole meeting was a mess and Ken just sat there on his laptop, doing nothing. Fair play to the board, they were far more patient than I would have been. I would have had gasincider removed or closed the meeting. And then they wonder why the club dont want them involved? For so say intelligent people, they really arent that clever. As this OP's thread has well highlighted.
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Post by glengas on Jul 29, 2019 9:52:32 GMT
Thought it was very sad that GC feels that some fans are being critical of some of the new signings and general negativity surrounding the club etc etc. Today i went along to the open day, and I must admit I haven't seen or heard much in the way of criticism by fans at the friendlies or indeed on here, not that I read most of the stuff on here. So imagine my surprise when I was told today that the supporters club wanted to do a pitchside presentation of last seasons player of the year awards, but were refused permission to do so , presumably by either Gorringe, Starnes or both. Remember, the supporters club represent over 25% of our fan base, and it would therefore have been another big positive ahead of next weeks season opener. I wonder if it's this sort of thing that GC was on about when he said about all pulling together. Not everyone feels the need to join or generally support the Supporters Club, but as they represent such a large part of our fan base, shouldn't the club be trying to nurture them as opposed to seemingly wishing to see them diminish? The presentations would only have taken about 10 minutes to complete, so I fail to see how they could have interrupted the scheduling in any way. Indeed, there were several quite lengthy intervals during the proceedings when they could have been done with no disruption at all. It seems to me that this is another own goal, and would have been so easy to avoid. I hope that one of the powers that be can comment as to why a simple positive request was ludicrously turned down? Is the part a joke, about not seeing much criticism of our signings etc?? Are you not on social media at all?? Loads of fans have been moaning about every little thing. Your post highlights that. Instead of pulling together, you try and cause more unrest, within the club. Couldn't make this stuff up lol To be honest, I am not sure why GC is worried about what is happening on social media. The early days of the conference DC was faced with posters all over the training ground calling for his head. To win the doubters over just prove them wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 10:07:36 GMT
Maybe it's a result of the way things reportedly went at the AGM? And gasincider was the yob that wouldn’t shut his mouth, who shouted down just about everyone in the room making no points that had any substance or evidence, (I still have no idea whether he was speaking for the majority or whether it was the gasincider show) was disrespectful to the chair of the AGM, the board and our owner whilst your fearless leader in Ken Masters sat there and said nothing. The supporters club does not represent 25% of the fan base. I would love to see figures that back that up. If they do, it’s no wonder they are stuck on 25% as it’s a Jurassic old boys club all with an axe to grind. And when your leader cosies up to the chairman who over the last 18 months has done nothing more than cause problems both for club staff, owners, playing management to single handily disrupt the running of the club, then it’s no wonder that Tom Gorringe, Martyn or Wael told you lot you weren’t having a slice of the action. Roady is right. Having you lot own a gnats cock of a percentage is the biggest ball ache and the one of biggest mistake our owners have made by not buying you out. I cannot believe what I just read. The man should be ashamed of himself. Disgraceful.
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Post by Severncider on Jul 29, 2019 10:07:50 GMT
Perhaps Ken is not/unable to raise some of his concerns in public. He’s never had any problems with that before? The infamous text message springs to mind... You make my point. He tried to raise some of his concerns via a Supporters Club member not directly with the public/membership. I take a different slant on the OP's message. Was he asked to post this?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 29, 2019 10:43:27 GMT
Is the part a joke, about not seeing much criticism of our signings etc?? Are you not on social media at all?? Loads of fans have been moaning about every little thing. Your post highlights that. Instead of pulling together, you try and cause more unrest, within the club. Couldn't make this stuff up lol To be honest, I am not sure why GC is worried about what is happening on social media. The early days of the conference DC was faced with posters all over the training ground calling for his head. To win the doubters over just prove them wrong. I agree, although a passionate fan base, behind a team, can give them an extra few percent. So I think it was more to rally the crowd, before the first game. Be would have been better off saying, I know how passionate our fans can be, we need them all behind us on Saturday, to give us that extra push.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 29, 2019 10:59:45 GMT
Is the part a joke, about not seeing much criticism of our signings etc?? Are you not on social media at all?? Loads of fans have been moaning about every little thing. Your post highlights that. Instead of pulling together, you try and cause more unrest, within the club. Couldn't make this stuff up lol To be honest, I am not sure why GC is worried about what is happening on social media. The early days of the conference DC was faced with posters all over the training ground calling for his head. To win the doubters over just prove them wrong. DC mentioned this, though, several times, partly to defend himself but partly to galvanise the team. I imagine GC is mentioning this for similar reasons. It's just man/team management (as well as supporter management). Every time a manager opens his mouth he should have in mind how it will this play to his team. And I'm sure GC does, just as DC did, and just as every decent manager does.
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Post by Fetch on Jul 29, 2019 11:01:21 GMT
Thought it was very sad that GC feels that some fans are being critical of some of the new signings and general negativity surrounding the club etc etc. Today i went along to the open day, and I must admit I haven't seen or heard much in the way of criticism by fans at the friendlies or indeed on here, not that I read most of the stuff on here. So imagine my surprise when I was told today that the supporters club wanted to do a pitchside presentation of last seasons player of the year awards, but were refused permission to do so , presumably by either Gorringe, Starnes or both. Remember, the supporters club represent over 25% of our fan base, and it would therefore have been another big positive ahead of next weeks season opener. I wonder if it's this sort of thing that GC was on about when he said about all pulling together. Not everyone feels the need to join or generally support the Supporters Club, but as they represent such a large part of our fan base, shouldn't the club be trying to nurture them as opposed to seemingly wishing to see them diminish? The presentations would only have taken about 10 minutes to complete, so I fail to see how they could have interrupted the scheduling in any way. Indeed, there were several quite lengthy intervals during the proceedings when they could have been done with no disruption at all. It seems to me that this is another own goal, and would have been so easy to avoid. I hope that one of the powers that be can comment as to why a simple positive request was ludicrously turned down? You're literally making his point for him.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 29, 2019 11:45:57 GMT
Aahhhh Oh'well, we had a good run of 3 months without the bullsh!t from gasincider, guess were gonna have a bad run of 9 months now, with nothing but......
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 29, 2019 11:55:31 GMT
He’s never had any problems with that before? The infamous text message springs to mind... You make my point. He tried to raise some of his concerns via a Supporters Club member not directly with the public/membership. I take a different slant on the OP's message. Was he asked to post this? Would not surprise me. But surely if that is the best Ken can do his position is completely untenable?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 29, 2019 12:07:02 GMT
You make my point. He tried to raise some of his concerns via a Supporters Club member not directly with the public/membership. I take a different slant on the OP's message. Was he asked to post this? Would not surprise me. But surely if that is the best Ken can do his position is completely untenable? It’s not his best effort, but it’s shows what it has come to and just how pathetic they all are as characters.
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Post by farmygas on Jul 29, 2019 12:14:25 GMT
Legendary threads please.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 29, 2019 12:18:38 GMT
You make my point. He tried to raise some of his concerns via a Supporters Club member not directly with the public/membership. I take a different slant on the OP's message. Was he asked to post this? Would not surprise me. But surely if that is the best Ken can do his position is completely untenable? Have been saying this for years. If all they can do is talk to the same handful of folk 'in secret' and dont properly convey any message of disatisfaction, what do they expect to change for the better and/or how do they expect to represent the whole fanbase not just GIs 25%
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