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Post by inee on Aug 30, 2019 0:46:33 GMT
ah cheers er the info
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2019 7:12:54 GMT
EFL advising no matter what happens with any prospective takeover now, they won't reverse the decision to expel their membership. I'm genuinely gutted for them but, at the same time, I think it's *probably* the right decision at this point giving they've unfortunately had these financial issues for nigh-on six years.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2019 7:41:14 GMT
EFL advising no matter what happens with any prospective takeover now, they won't reverse the decision to expel their membership. I'm genuinely gutted for them but, at the same time, I think it's *probably* the right decision at this point giving they've unfortunately had these financial issues for nigh-on six years. Yes, of course it was the right thing to do, it was already becoming a farce, it needed to be decided and Bury were unable to prove they were able to function financially within any of the many deadlines that were given. It’s sad for the fans but so are lots of things. All these last minute bids for the club, where were these bids all summer? Good luck to them as they set up their phoenix club and start the long way back. UTG!
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 9:04:44 GMT
EFL advising no matter what happens with any prospective takeover now, they won't reverse the decision to expel their membership. I'm genuinely gutted for them but, at the same time, I think it's *probably* the right decision at this point giving they've unfortunately had these financial issues for nigh-on six years. My main worry is the near £4m mortgage currently hanging over Gigg Lane. Could be a real issue in regards to a new club being formed. Hopefully, some deal can be agreed to ensure a new club can play at Gigg Lane.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2019 9:42:10 GMT
EFL advising no matter what happens with any prospective takeover now, they won't reverse the decision to expel their membership. I'm genuinely gutted for them but, at the same time, I think it's *probably* the right decision at this point giving they've unfortunately had these financial issues for nigh-on six years. My main worry is the near £4m mortgage currently hanging over Gigg Lane. Could be a real issue in regards to a new club being formed. Hopefully, some deal can be agreed to ensure a new club can play at Gigg Lane. Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off?
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 9:47:19 GMT
My main worry is the near £4m mortgage currently hanging over Gigg Lane. Could be a real issue in regards to a new club being formed. Hopefully, some deal can be agreed to ensure a new club can play at Gigg Lane. Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off? Well it's "owned" by the club, however how long the club is going is open to debate. Hopefully when they do fold (which, you have to assume they will) there will be a deal to be had for Gigg Lane.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2019 9:51:53 GMT
Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off? Well it's "owned" by the club, however how long the club is going is open to debate. Hopefully when they do fold (which, you have to assume they will) there will be a deal to be had for Gigg Lane. Only signed a new sponsorship deal for naming rights in February, with Leeds-based energy company Planet-U. Will be interesting to see what happens either way, been there for 134 years so you'd like to think this phoenix club will get ownership back from the council should the current Bury liquidate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 10:14:47 GMT
My main worry is the near £4m mortgage currently hanging over Gigg Lane. Could be a real issue in regards to a new club being formed. Hopefully, some deal can be agreed to ensure a new club can play at Gigg Lane. Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off? Could the council make Gigg Lane an Asset of Community Value (is that the right terminology?). Alternatively, make it clear they would never give planning permission for any new building on the site or advise that a change of use would never be authorised? If not could it be given listed building status? Whatever the options making the Gigg Lane site effectively worthless other than for use as a football stadium would surely help a Phoenix FC?
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2019 10:40:41 GMT
Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off? Could the council make Gigg Lane an Asset of Community Value (is that the right terminology?). Alternatively, make it clear they would never give planning permission for any new building on the site or advise that a change of use would never be authorised? If not could it be given listed building status? Whatever the options making the Gigg Lane site effectively worthless other than for use as a football stadium would surely help a Phoenix FC? Well Gigg Lane is often used for other football clubs in the area - FC United of Manchester used it from 2005 to 2014, Man Utd and (ironically, given their similar circumstances) Bolton reserves have both used it as well as rugby, cricket, baseball and lacrosse teams. It's a multi-sport, all-seater stadium in Manchester that's been in the community for 134 years so I'd be baffled if it was sold off to some property developer looking to build houses, for example. I'd imagine, without being an expert in this field, that Bury FC will liquidate and due to the high, outstanding mortgage on Gigg Lane, the stadium will revert its ownership to the council who will then lease to the phoenix club until they're sustainable/professional enough to buy it back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 13:06:47 GMT
Bolton are on the verge of 5 signings and expect them to be completed before Saturday.
The farce continues.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 13:33:23 GMT
Bolton are on the verge of 5 signings and expect them to be completed before Saturday. The farce continues. I mean, they kind of have to sign senior players.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 30, 2019 14:01:28 GMT
Bolton are on the verge of 5 signings and expect them to be completed before Saturday. The farce continues. How many players did Bury have on their books? Perhaps Bolton could sign them, and the team be called.... Bur yBolton - Burton! Oh, hang on a minute Bolt onBury - Boltury, there that's better. I'm sure the EFL would be happy, having presided over the farce it has all been so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 14:31:47 GMT
Bury taking legal action.
You have to love the irony of a club that can’t pay it’s players suddenly finding the money for a court case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 14:57:09 GMT
Bury taking legal action. You have to love the irony of a club that can’t pay it’s players suddenly finding the money for a court case. And owing every Tom, Dick and Harry a fortune.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2019 15:05:20 GMT
Yeah would be hard for any phoenix club to move there currently. Does Dale own it or is it still property of the Bury council etc. until paid off? Could the council make Gigg Lane an Asset of Community Value (is that the right terminology?). Alternatively, make it clear they would never give planning permission for any new building on the site or advise that a change of use would never be authorised? If not could it be given listed building status? Whatever the options making the Gigg Lane site effectively worthless other than for use as a football stadium would surely help a Phoenix FC? Good idea, but whether it happens like that might be another thing. Seems a bit ironic seeing as Bury FC offered FC United of Manchester a home when they were setting up several years ago now. Think they played at Gigg Lane for a season or two. UTG!
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 30, 2019 16:05:07 GMT
Could the council make Gigg Lane an Asset of Community Value (is that the right terminology?). Alternatively, make it clear they would never give planning permission for any new building on the site or advise that a change of use would never be authorised? If not could it be given listed building status? Whatever the options making the Gigg Lane site effectively worthless other than for use as a football stadium would surely help a Phoenix FC? Good idea, but whether it happens like that might be another thing. Seems a bit ironic seeing as Bury FC offered FC United of Manchester a home when they were setting up several years ago now. Think they played at Gigg Lane for a season or two. UTG! Played there from 2005 to 2014.
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Post by gas2 on Aug 30, 2019 16:23:15 GMT
Do we any Compansation from the league for loss of gate receipts from the home game that will never go ahead ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 16:33:08 GMT
Bolton are on the verge of 5 signings and expect them to be completed before Saturday. The farce continues. Whilst it's clear Bolton need to sign senior players to become competitive, I'm with you on this as they've already played a number of games and lost all but one heavily. The teams that face them post the takeover will now face a completely different proposition and in a sense are potentially penalised for not being scheduled to play them at the start of the season. As we saw last season, goal difference can be really important in determining who finishes where at the end of the season. Other teams are fined for playing weakened teams etc which once bolton sign all these players there team at the start of the season would effectively have been to the benefit of the teams they played then. Surely this isn't fair.... guess one of the issues with the transfer window closing after the season has already started.
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Post by lmgas on Aug 30, 2019 18:47:31 GMT
Just noticed that dale has posted a long rambling statement on bury's website, it's a painful and bitter read, it would be so difficult to read all that if it was your club, what a disgrace. I can only imagine he's trying to save face; all he does is show more of his true nature. www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/chairmans-statement/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 19:02:14 GMT
Just noticed that dale has posted a long rambling statement on bury's website, it's a painful and bitter read, it would be so difficult to read all that if it was your club, what a disgrace. I can only imagine he's trying to save face; all he does is show more of his true nature. www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/chairmans-statement/The bloke is an utter twat.Never seen a more contradictory statement!
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