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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 2, 2019 16:51:00 GMT
It's what I've been told by someone involved in the game. Blackburn turned down permanent bids in January for Nuttall, reportedly for around £275k, so I'd say the 350k figure sounds about right considering he had 2 years left on his contract too. Oxford were bidding around £700k* for a centre back in Scotland earlier this summer, so I doubt they would balk at paying £300k for Leicester's U23 captain. Edit: *£500k Didn't Oxford sell a winger for £2 million and Blackpool sold Bola. So they both had money to spend. Expect they have both received a lot more than they spent. So they are hardly throwing money around. Not a lot of clubs do, at this level.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 2, 2019 16:59:58 GMT
It's what I've been told by someone involved in the game. Blackburn turned down permanent bids in January for Nuttall, reportedly for around £275k, so I'd say the 350k figure sounds about right considering he had 2 years left on his contract too. Oxford were bidding around £700k* for a centre back in Scotland earlier this summer, so I doubt they would balk at paying £300k for Leicester's U23 captain. Edit: *£500k Didn't Oxford sell a winger for £2 million and Blackpool sold Bola. So they both had money to spend. Expect they have both received a lot more than they spent. So they are hardly throwing money around. Not a lot of clubs do, at this level. Coventy appeared to have been signing players for fun this summer, then come the death they've now sold Chapman for £500K & Baylis for £2m, I'm not sure any Div 1 side has spent more on players than they've received in transfer fees. Perhaps Pirate would be happy if we sold JCH for £1m and then brought in his replacement for £250K/£350K?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 17:17:05 GMT
We seem to be unable to pay a small fee for Scales, can't complete with Blackpool on wages, our signings have been free/out of contract and pre-season has seen us plunder the development squad. Nothing concrete in all of that but compared with previous seasons there is certainly enough evidence that something has changed and we are resorting to austerity. It's pretty clear the deal with Scales is not all about money. I would hardly describe any of that as suddenly turning the tap off. Anyway, you've been moaning about us not signing players, then moaning about us spending too much money. Now moaning about us suddenly turning the tap off. Oh, yeah, and moaning about us in the thread where GC asked us to do a bit less moaning. It's like you just want to moan and don't really give a toss what about. And making up sh** like 'suddenly turning the tap off.' Oi Trappy where am I complaining about austerity? If anything I’m a bit bemused at the lack of an obvious strategy from the club because spending the best part of 17 million then suddenly stopping suggests that there is no real strategy apart from milk the magic money tree til it runs out. Now it has run out. Fine. But I’d love to know where we go from here now. Where are the revenue streams that will pay off what we owe DS? Any ideas?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 2, 2019 17:38:24 GMT
It's pretty clear the deal with Scales is not all about money. I would hardly describe any of that as suddenly turning the tap off. Anyway, you've been moaning about us not signing players, then moaning about us spending too much money. Now moaning about us suddenly turning the tap off. Oh, yeah, and moaning about us in the thread where GC asked us to do a bit less moaning. It's like you just want to moan and don't really give a toss what about. And making up sh** like 'suddenly turning the tap off.' Oi Trappy where am I complaining about austerity? If anything I’m a bit bemused at the lack of an obvious strategy from the club because spending the best part of 17 million then suddenly stopping suggests that there is no real strategy apart from milk the magic money tree til it runs out. Now it has run out. Fine. But I’d love to know where we go from here now. Where are the revenue streams that will pay off what we owe DS? Any ideas? When did we suddenly stop? Repeating stuff doesn't make it true.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 17:50:42 GMT
Oi Trappy where am I complaining about austerity? If anything I’m a bit bemused at the lack of an obvious strategy from the club because spending the best part of 17 million then suddenly stopping suggests that there is no real strategy apart from milk the magic money tree til it runs out. Now it has run out. Fine. But I’d love to know where we go from here now. Where are the revenue streams that will pay off what we owe DS? Any ideas? When did we suddenly stop? Repeating stuff doesn't make it true. Well I would say the fact we haven't bought a player for the 150k or so we spent on Payne and the manager himself complaining about how we can't compete with Blackpool suggests that the budget that was afforded to DC simply isn;t there anymore. If pirate is right and Blackpool wanted 350k for Nuttall then that's the money we spent on Nichols so we should be able to afford that if money was still no object. Ipswich should have ponied up the rest of the Ellis transfer fee by now, where has that money gone?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 2, 2019 18:37:08 GMT
When did we suddenly stop? Repeating stuff doesn't make it true. Well I would say the fact we haven't bought a player for the 150k or so we spent on Payne and the manager himself complaining about how we can't compete with Blackpool suggests that the budget that was afforded to DC simply isn;t there anymore. If pirate is right and Blackpool wanted 350k for Nuttall then that's the money we spent on Nichols so we should be able to afford that if money was still no object. Ipswich should have ponied up the rest of the Ellis transfer fee by now, where has that money gone? We were overspending £3M per year and you're talking about that suddenly stopping. Nothing's suddenly stopped, has it?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 2, 2019 18:58:29 GMT
When did we suddenly stop? Repeating stuff doesn't make it true. Well I would say the fact we haven't bought a player for the 150k or so we spent on Payne and the manager himself complaining about how we can't compete with Blackpool suggests that the budget that was afforded to DC simply isn;t there anymore. If pirate is right and Blackpool wanted 350k for Nuttall then that's the money we spent on Nichols so we should be able to afford that if money was still no object. Ipswich should have ponied up the rest of the Ellis transfer fee by now, where has that money gone? Blackpool have just sold Bola for £750K, plus have zero debts and only cost their new £10m for the ground, the hotel and training ground.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 19:02:20 GMT
GC is already sounding despondent to me. He wanted to bring in a “marquee” centre forward and pacy wingers and has not managed either. He is obviously ****** GR has decided to move on. I hope we get off to a flyer tomorrow, although l am not getting carried away and will take a 0-0 draw as currently l do not see without JCH where our goals are coming from. We can only hope Victor knows where the net is and Bennett stays interested until at least JCH is fully fit, the fact we can't even afford a small transfer fee upfront for Scales suggests we're in for a long hard season, but all we can do is get behind GC and his players. Do we actually know that to be the case, or are we just guessing / interpreting something? Not a dig, but I've missed any acknowledgement that we couldn't afford a small transfer fee for Scales.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 19:09:47 GMT
Oxford, MK Dons, Peterborough and Blackpool. I'd also add Rotherham United to the list, but depends whether you would consider them one of the "big few". The vast majority haven't then, and it's unclear whether certainly Oxford, Blackpool spend the kind of money we spent on Nichols. In a nutshell, DC was backed relative to our level. And rightly so. His record earned him the right to be. But if the board gave him too much, that's where the finger of blame should point, not DC. Eventually he realised that even though he got backing, it was insignificant compared to the level of player he had to sell. That is a lower league manager's lot but in the end, it did for him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 19:11:50 GMT
Didn't Oxford sell a winger for £2 million and Blackpool sold Bola. So they both had money to spend. Expect they have both received a lot more than they spent. So they are hardly throwing money around. Not a lot of clubs do, at this level. Coventy appeared to have been signing players for fun this summer, then come the death they've now sold Chapman for £500K & Baylis for £2m, I'm not sure any Div 1 side has spent more on players than they've received in transfer fees. Perhaps Pirate would be happy if we sold JCH for £1m and then brought in his replacement for £250K/£350K? Which is exactly what DC had to do. Three times effectively, albeit the amounts were different.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 20:13:34 GMT
Well I would say the fact we haven't bought a player for the 150k or so we spent on Payne and the manager himself complaining about how we can't compete with Blackpool suggests that the budget that was afforded to DC simply isn;t there anymore. If pirate is right and Blackpool wanted 350k for Nuttall then that's the money we spent on Nichols so we should be able to afford that if money was still no object. Ipswich should have ponied up the rest of the Ellis transfer fee by now, where has that money gone? We were overspending £3M per year and you're talking about that suddenly stopping. Nothing's suddenly stopped, has it? Well it has, hasn’t it?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 2, 2019 20:20:16 GMT
We were overspending £3M per year and you're talking about that suddenly stopping. Nothing's suddenly stopped, has it? Well it has, hasn’t it? We've cut our budget by £3M this season? Where d'you get that from, Scales' transfer fee?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 2, 2019 20:33:00 GMT
We can only hope Victor knows where the net is and Bennett stays interested until at least JCH is fully fit, the fact we can't even afford a small transfer fee upfront for Scales suggests we're in for a long hard season, but all we can do is get behind GC and his players. Do we actually know that to be the case, or are we just guessing / interpreting something? Not a dig, but I've missed any acknowledgement that we couldn't afford a small transfer fee for Scales. That's the suggestion, given Scales has apparently been to Rovers to have a look around the deal must have almost be done. We're 2 or 3 players short of what's needed so something will have to give, either the ALQ's give GC some more money or cubs/players drop their demands or we go into the season short on numbers.
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Post by tangerinearmy on Aug 2, 2019 20:55:44 GMT
Nothing 100% as all undisclosed.. but from internet they reckon we got 1.5m for Bola and bid 750k for nuttall.. how true this is who knows . But for to sign a young prospect on a 3yr deal with option for a 4th is incredible... Never ever known something like this as a pool fan. Roll on Tomoz for a great game
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 21:13:04 GMT
Do we actually know that to be the case, or are we just guessing / interpreting something? Not a dig, but I've missed any acknowledgement that we couldn't afford a small transfer fee for Scales. That's the suggestion, given Scales has apparently been to Rovers to have a look around the deal must have almost be done. We're 2 or 3 players short of what's needed so something will have to give, either the ALQ's give GC some more money or cubs/players drop their demands or we go into the season short on numbers. So we don't know then. I admit it's odd, but there could be absolutely any reason for the apparent breakdown of the Scales deal, of which lack of funds is just one. A shame either way, as we do need some pace to play alongside Big Tone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 21:40:50 GMT
We've cut our budget by £3M this season? Where d'you get that from, Scales' transfer fee? I’ll be very surprised if we are still spending 3 million on players when next years accounts come out.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 3, 2019 6:54:11 GMT
We've cut our budget by £3M this season? Where d'you get that from, Scales' transfer fee? I’ll be very surprised if we are still spending 3 million on players when next years accounts come out. You think we've cut our budget by £3M?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 11:10:43 GMT
Really good interview. Encouraging to hear him talking about what he wants from the season, particualrly about being more entertaining and pleasing on the eye and that it is something he wouldn't be asking of the players if he didn't feel they could deliver.
I fear we may just be a couple of additions from what he wants to achieve at the moment, but at least he is setting out the right intentions and signalling a move away from the ugly game we played in the second half of last season.
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Post by baggins on Aug 3, 2019 11:13:16 GMT
I’ll be very surprised if we are still spending 3 million on players when next years accounts come out. You think we've cut our budget by £3M? Christ, how big was the budget?
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