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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 16:07:55 GMT
Lost 6 games in a row before today. He’s on thin ice and it’s a shame as I was hoping he would find success with them. yeah if it was rovers I’d be wanting him out and would see today as the final straw! Must admit to not being saddened by DC’s failure so far. It helps me to think we made the right decision to get rid and that we are now better off.
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Post by lmgas on Nov 9, 2019 16:50:26 GMT
Walsall 2-1 up.
Pleased for DC.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2019 16:56:51 GMT
Walsall 2-1 up. Pleased for DC. Darlington's goalie, who only signed on loan yesterday, pushed a corner into his own net with Walsall down to 10 men!!
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Post by axegas on Nov 9, 2019 16:57:19 GMT
2-2 last minute Darlo equaliser.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 9, 2019 18:25:01 GMT
Just had a read of the Walsall fans forum. If the posters on there are representative of the club's fan base DC is in serious trouble.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 9, 2019 18:27:47 GMT
Great result for Walsall in the end with 10 men and no Clarke or Sincs.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2019 19:07:33 GMT
Just had a read of the Walsall fans forum. If the posters on there are representative of the club's fan base DC is in serious trouble. Most likely now out of the cup and struggling near the bottom on League 2, I can't imagine many fans will be singing his praises. I'd have thought there's a very good chance the replay will be televised?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 19:09:20 GMT
Beeb have got Warsaw down as National League already..
Watch highlights as sixth-tier Darlington score a 97th minute equaliser against National League Walsall to earn a first round replay in the FA Cup.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/50360664
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Post by oldgas on Nov 9, 2019 20:32:14 GMT
Just had a read of the Walsall fans forum. If the posters on there are representative of the club's fan base DC is in serious trouble. Just had a read as well. Apparently DC told some of the fans to F### Off as he left the pitch and they were having a go at him. I don't think it will be long before Walsall and DC part company. The forum makes it seem like the last few weeks of DC at Rovers.
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Post by saddlesore on Nov 11, 2019 8:34:10 GMT
Great result for Walsall in the end with 10 men and no Clarke or Sincs. We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 11, 2019 9:12:06 GMT
Great result for Walsall in the end with 10 men and no Clarke or Sincs. We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. Real shame if he can't manage to turn it around. Really thought you & DC would be a perfect fit tbh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 9:19:37 GMT
Great result for Walsall in the end with 10 men and no Clarke or Sincs. We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. Don’t forget he won two promotions on the spin here- I think that has earned him the right to have a lot of self confidence and belief...but that being said he has definitely changed his methods since his second promotion and from what I hear of Walsall he seems reluctant to try and re-discover what won him those two promotions (although early substitutions have always been a trademark move of his and usually he is quick to point out in the media that he makes those subs because he got his starting lineup and formation wrong for that opponent and he holds his hands up).
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Post by saddlesore on Nov 11, 2019 9:35:59 GMT
We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. Don’t forget he won two promotions on the spin here- I think that has earned him the right to have a lot of self confidence and belief...but that being said he has definitely changed his methods since his second promotion and from what I hear of Walsall he seems reluctant to try and re-discover what won him those two promotions (although early substitutions have always been a trademark move of his and usually he is quick to point out in the media that he makes those subs because he got his starting lineup and formation wrong for that opponent and he holds his hands up). Lets be honest two promotions with a club one and two divisions below it's natural level and the fanbase and budget would have been very healthy in comparison to most clubs. And they weren't exactly promotions romping the league, not to rake anything away from his success or the enjoyment you got from them. You're right about his change in mentality. He's adopted the approach that saw him sacked with you - negative possession based football with little cutting edge. Why pass forwards when you can pass backwards or sideways?! He can't blame the players all he likes on that but a decent manager respected by the players gets his methodology and approach across clearly to the players and he's not doing that...unless it is his adopted style. As for early subs,if he got his starting line up wrong so often, then he hasn't done his homework right in the first place, in my opinion. Then killing players confidence through his own mistakes only makes matters worse. This time he's not holding his hands up though, he's passing on blame in some cases, which is the start of the end. Formation and players shouldn't matter too much at this level (and certainly against non league clubs) as long as they're organised, regimented, well drilled and give 100% they'll win more than they lose. None of that applies to DC's Walsall.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 11, 2019 9:46:23 GMT
Inclined to agree with most of the above.
Whilst DC's continued public condemnation of underperforming players may make for interesting media interviews, it will have a very negative effect on the dressing room. I struggle to think of a successful manager who constantly rubbished his own team.
It really does look like his current plight at Walsall mirrors the dark times in the final month with us.
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Nov 11, 2019 10:06:04 GMT
The Darrell Clarke situation with Rovers and Walsall is basically Ray Graydon in reverse! Sometimes it just doesn't work out!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 10:08:50 GMT
Great result for Walsall in the end with 10 men and no Clarke or Sincs. We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. When they sack him will you promise to go away and never come back here?
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 11, 2019 13:09:29 GMT
We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. When they sack him will you promise to go away and never come back here? Don't be mean, he's alright is saddlesore
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Post by saddlesore on Nov 11, 2019 13:26:21 GMT
The Darrell Clarke situation with Rovers and Walsall is basically Ray Graydon in reverse! Sometimes it just doesn't work out! Yep. Payback!
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Post by saddlesore on Nov 11, 2019 13:26:59 GMT
We're better off without them to be honest. Although Clarke is wrecking what little confidence is left in the players. Took two players off after 25 mins on Saturday and judging from their reaction he won't get anything out of them again this season, not that he'll be around to worry about that. I've never known a manager so full of himself with so little to back it up on. 1970s style manager 40 years behind the times. The fans want him out. He wants out. It won't be long before the board realise they're paying off yet another manager to get him out. No worries he can take on another "project" elsewhere, but I think he'll have to select his next role carefully or his reputation will be ruined for good. When they sack him will you promise to go away and never come back here? I'll post more if you don't like it.
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Post by saddlesore on Nov 11, 2019 13:31:19 GMT
Inclined to agree with most of the above. Whilst DC's continued public condemnation of underperforming players may make for interesting media interviews, it will have a very negative effect on the dressing room. I struggle to think of a successful manager who constantly rubbished his own team. People have ridiculously been poking fun at Pep about his following the match against Liverpool yesterday. He did exactly the right thing - bigging his players up after a confidence sapping defeat. If he doesn't do that it affects them even more. Clarke is more interested in being honest and saying what he thinks the fans want to hear to get them on side, but it's always more important to have your team and players on side, which produces results and the fans backing will follow.
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