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Post by axegas on Dec 16, 2019 12:03:13 GMT
Must be one of the most bittersweet reigns of any Bristol Rovers manager?
Firstly he was always up against it to begin with replacing one of the most universally loved and respected managers we've had.
The impact he made on the pitch was enormous, from being in the relegation zone in December of last year he completely changed our fortunes guiding us to a very respectable 15th place last year and taking us to 4th in this campaign.
He assembled a very hardworking and devoted group of players. Placed an emphasis on giving opportunities to youth products like Kilgour, Menayese and Tomlinson and had an impeccable transfer record that saw us unearth the likes of JCH, Ogogo and Jaakkola.
And yet, he never won all the fans around to his side. Even the most rose tinted fan will admit that his style of football, even though getting results, was boring and at times dreadful. Add to that his lack of concern about our progress off the pitch and his disrespectful attitude towards Chris Lines and with hindsight its easy to see why some could never get on board.
I can't criticise Coughlan for wanting to be closer to his family, that's very reasonable. But the way he has handled his departure smacks of a lack of class and for that reason I don't think he will be looked back on too positively. Thoughts?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 16, 2019 12:05:22 GMT
The thing is, I do feel that everyone was starting to warm to him. Saturdays result was the peak and that would have put a few more on the crowd this Saturday. He was slowly starting to win everyone over.
Now unless he does well at Mansfield, he will probably never manage at league one level again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:07:15 GMT
Must be one of the most bittersweet reigns of any Bristol Rovers manager? Firstly he was always up against it to begin with replacing one of the most universally loved and respected managers we've had. The impact he made on the pitch was enormous, from being in the relegation zone in December of last year he completely changed our fortunes guiding us to a very respectable 15th place last year and taking us to 4th in this campaign. He assembled a very hardworking and devoted group of players. Placed an emphasis on giving opportunities to youth products like Kilgour, Menayese and Tomlinson and had an impeccable transfer record that saw us unearth the likes of JCH, Ogogo and Jaakkola. And yet, he never won all the fans around to his side. Even the most rose tinted fan will admit that his style of football, even though getting results, was boring and at times dreadful. Add to that his lack of concern about our progress off the pitch and his disrespectful attitude towards Chris Lines and with hindsight its easy to see why some could never get on board. I can't criticise Coughlan for wanting to be closer to his family, that's very reasonable. But the way he has handled his departure smacks of a lack of class and for that reason I don't think he will be looked back on too positively. Thoughts? Fair play for the results, but there is a lot there in his media work which might explain why he’s a difficult character to warm to, also the football speaks for itself. It will be really interesting to see how he gets on at Mansfield, more so than DC because GC has only a year’s experience and it’s still a total punt by them. Reminiscent of Ipswich opting for Hirst because he had half an excellent season with Shrewsbury. Given his apparent lack of strategy he could really struggle elsewhere unless he has a group of players who have the 100% never say die attitude. That seems to be the key ingredient for a Coughlan squad.
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Post by Marshy on Dec 16, 2019 12:07:40 GMT
Mansfield v Northampton on Saturday.
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 16, 2019 12:10:16 GMT
Good luck to him at Mansfield. He's achieved some excellent results here but his actions over the past few days summarise why people haven't warmed to him IMO.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 16, 2019 12:11:10 GMT
I personally won't be thanking Graham at all.
He was paid to do a job, which he did to the best of his ability.
In fact, he owes more to us than we do to him - that tasty 2 1/2 year contract for a man with no management experience was pretty extraordinary.
He had the cheek to moan about salaries, agents, media & loyalty - yet look at how he's engineered his move.
Look how DC left, compared to GC. No class at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:13:18 GMT
Bloke probably has a similar, if not better win % than DC, yet he will not be remembered very fondly at all. Such a sly, underhanded way of going about things. Tosspot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:16:20 GMT
Bloke probably has a similar, if not better win % than DC, yet he will not be remembered very fondly at all. Such a sly, underhanded way of going about things. Tosspot. DCs is worth more due to number of games. Let’s see if GC has a similar % when he’s managed the same number of games. My prediction is that he won’t even manage that number of games let alone beat his %. He will be a defensive coach in some non-descript northern club before long.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 16, 2019 12:19:24 GMT
I’m really disappointed he had thrown the towel in with the club in such a good position. I can only imagine there is more to come out, with regards to our finances. JCH has almost certainly been sold in my opinion.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 16, 2019 12:32:25 GMT
Saved us which I am grateful for and has got us winning ugly, don't like his style of play and not a classy ending, wanted respect from us for what he did, then engineered an exit, obviously tapping up has gone on, if he had left for a bigger club then so be it, but Mansfield the only thing decent there is the bang tidy chairwoman.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:37:25 GMT
Must be one of the most bittersweet reigns of any Bristol Rovers manager? Firstly he was always up against it to begin with replacing one of the most universally loved and respected managers we've had. The impact he made on the pitch was enormous, from being in the relegation zone in December of last year he completely changed our fortunes guiding us to a very respectable 15th place last year and taking us to 4th in this campaign. He assembled a very hardworking and devoted group of players. Placed an emphasis on giving opportunities to youth products like Kilgour, Menayese and Tomlinson and had an impeccable transfer record that saw us unearth the likes of JCH, Ogogo and Jaakkola. And yet, he never won all the fans around to his side. Even the most rose tinted fan will admit that his style of football, even though getting results, was boring and at times dreadful. Add to that his lack of concern about our progress off the pitch and his disrespectful attitude towards Chris Lines and with hindsight its easy to see why some could never get on board. I can't criticise Coughlan for wanting to be closer to his family, that's very reasonable. But the way he has handled his departure smacks of a lack of class and for that reason I don't think he will be looked back on too positively. Thoughts? Think that's a really reasonable and fair assessment. As controversial as it might sound, I'm not convinced our results are entirely reflective of his managerial ability. He's always struck me as being a manager with very limited scope to change things and adapt to how games have unfolded. Whilst we've achieved some brilliant results, we've also seen some of the worst performances for many a year. Bolton in particular stands in mind, where he once again demonstrated the rigidness of his approach. It's important to recognise that he wasn't the reason why results and recruitment have improved, with Tommy W no doubt being highly influential in those signings. I don't think he'll be looked back on fondly in light of his behaviour and the disrespect he's shown to the club who gave him a chance in management. Good riddance.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Dec 16, 2019 12:39:58 GMT
His achievements can go in the same bin as Matty Taylors as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 16, 2019 13:21:29 GMT
Unfortunately he will always be remembered for engineering a move away now.
Shame really.
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Post by socrates on Dec 16, 2019 13:24:22 GMT
The thing is, I do feel that everyone was starting to warm to him. Saturdays result was the peak and that would have put a few more on the crowd this Saturday. He was slowly starting to win everyone over. Now unless he does well at Mansfield, he will probably never manage at league one level again. He won me over from the first game. Put family first though didn’t he. Shows the kind of person he is and I respect that. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Mansfield met the salary he’s on with us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 13:27:47 GMT
The thing is, I do feel that everyone was starting to warm to him. Saturdays result was the peak and that would have put a few more on the crowd this Saturday. He was slowly starting to win everyone over. Now unless he does well at Mansfield, he will probably never manage at league one level again. He won me over from the first game. Put family first though didn’t he. Shows the kind of person he is and I respect that. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Mansfield met the salary he’s on with us. I think if he'd had come out and emphasised the family issue he would have left with a far greater amount of respect. Instead he babbled on about professional reasons too and made jibes about the club which were totally unnecessary and massively disrespectful, making it out like his decision wasn't made when it's become apparent that clearly wasn't the case. Very strange character who won't be massively missed I suspect.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 16, 2019 13:35:42 GMT
I would never begrudge the man for putting his family ahead of anything else. However, this really could have waited until Monday morning, surely? Having stated he has spent an entire decade working away from Sheffield, I’m also scratching my head as to how much hurt another 5 months really would have done?
Yet, as has been stated in another thread we have a huge game Saturday. We are 4th in the league, in unbelievable form and a chance to make yet another big statement result against The Posh. I hope the attendance is a large one and the Gasheads rally as one, getting fully behind our boys.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Dec 16, 2019 13:38:32 GMT
Must be one of the most bittersweet reigns of any Bristol Rovers manager? Firstly he was always up against it to begin with replacing one of the most universally loved and respected managers we've had. The impact he made on the pitch was enormous, from being in the relegation zone in December of last year he completely changed our fortunes guiding us to a very respectable 15th place last year and taking us to 4th in this campaign. He assembled a very hardworking and devoted group of players. Placed an emphasis on giving opportunities to youth products like Kilgour, Menayese and Tomlinson and had an impeccable transfer record that saw us unearth the likes of JCH, Ogogo and Jaakkola. And yet, he never won all the fans around to his side. Even the most rose tinted fan will admit that his style of football, even though getting results, was boring and at times dreadful. Add to that his lack of concern about our progress off the pitch and his disrespectful attitude towards Chris Lines and with hindsight its easy to see why some could never get on board. I can't criticise Coughlan for wanting to be closer to his family, that's very reasonable. But the way he has handled his departure smacks of a lack of class and for that reason I don't think he will be looked back on too positively. Thoughts? Think that's a really reasonable and fair assessment. As controversial as it might sound, I'm not convinced our results are entirely reflective of his managerial ability. He's always struck me as being a manager with very limited scope to change things and adapt to how games have unfolded. Whilst we've achieved some brilliant results, we've also seen some of the worst performances for many a year. Bolton in particular stands in mind, where he once again demonstrated the rigidness of his approach. It's important to recognise that he wasn't the reason why results and recruitment have improved, with Tommy W no doubt being highly influential in those signings. I don't think he'll be looked back on fondly in light of his behaviour and the disrespect he's shown to the club who gave him a chance in management. Good riddance. He's not gone yet, and people are chiselling his gravestone. I suspect he'll be remembered as fondly as John Joe O'Toole though, as you may remember how amazing he was as a player for us, just acted like a tosser when he left.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 13:42:48 GMT
I now understand how he got the nickname “Cocko”
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Post by cj on Dec 16, 2019 14:21:24 GMT
To be honest, let him go and good riddance I say.
Now I appreciate the wide majority of you all will completely disagree with me or think I am being way too harsh. I have my tin hat on ready. But I am entitled to an opinion.
If he wants to drop from a promotion race to the championship to a L2 relegation battle then let him. And while I am at it, I hope Mansfield go down as well. I am sure I sound very bitter and I happily admit that I am. His decision stinks as far as I am concerned. I understand he is missing his family. I am not completely heartless but why leave now and not back in the summer? Or why leave now and not at the end of this season? Surely his family could wait for 5 more months, seeing that he has been away from them for over a decade already! So using his family as an excuse, just doesn't wash me. If its a case of low funds being available, well he has managed to get us to 4th with a game in hand on the funds that he is not happy with. Yes I think we all would like more money being made available to bring in more players to push us on but he has managed to get us to where we are now so maybe he is just a victim of his own success. He would have known when he agreed to take the job on that there would be a lack of funds. He was happy to continue. Again, his excuses just doesn't wash with me.
In his first full season as a manager, he could have had a top 6 finish in L1 on his CV or maybe even a promotion on his CV to the championship! But now he could instead have a relegation to non league on his CV, and hopefully so. Leaving now just screams of no ambition from him. He could have waited until the end of the season where if he still wanted to leave, it wouldn't have meant he had done us over and I am sure he would have found a club just as close to his family who could be better/bigger/higher up than Mansfield!
When GC joined Rovers, he said in an interview that he was shocked and angry following his sacking by Southend and he criticised them for lack of loyalty to him. When he got the managers job with us, he said he was grateful for being given the opportunity at Rovers. He is a hypocrite and we can now see his real character in action my opinion.
Goodbye GC. Thanks for leaving us 4th, our highest position for many a year. I do actually appreciate that. I wasn't your biggest fan at first. Poor football but we are in a results based business and you got the result. Fair shout to you. You were just winning more fans over too. So this is very poor timing and I just don't appreciate that you waste this chance with us for a potential great season in the league and still in 2 cups to move to L2 18th place Mansfield. Hopefully you get relegated to non league. Close the door on your way out. Thanks.
Bitter and angry - yes. Absofuckinglutely.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 16, 2019 14:38:30 GMT
To be honest, let him go and good riddance I say. Now I appreciate the wide majority of you all will completely disagree with me or think I am being way too harsh. I have my tin hat on ready. But I am entitled to an opinion. If he wants to drop from a promotion race to the championship to a L2 relegation battle then let him. And while I am at it, I hope Mansfield go down as well. I am sure I sound very bitter and I happily admit that I am. His decision stinks as far as I am concerned. I understand he is missing his family. I am not completely heartless but why leave now and not back in the summer? Or why leave now and not at the end of this season? Surely his family could wait for 5 more months, seeing that he has been away from them for over a decade already! So using his family as an excuse, just doesn't wash me. If its a case of low funds being available, well he has managed to get us to 4th with a game in hand on the funds that he is not happy with. Yes I think we all would like more money being made available to bring in more players to push us on but he has managed to get us to where we are now so maybe he is just a victim of his own success. He would have known when he agreed to take the job on that there would be a lack of funds. He was happy to continue. Again, his excuses just doesn't wash with me. In his first full season as a manager, he could have had a top 6 finish in L1 on his CV or maybe even a promotion on his CV to the championship! But now he could instead have a relegation to non league on his CV, and hopefully so. Leaving now just screams of no ambition from him. He could have waited until the end of the season where if he still wanted to leave, it wouldn't have meant he had done us over and I am sure he would have found a club just as close to his family who could be better/bigger/higher up than Mansfield! When GC joined Rovers, he said in an interview that he was shocked and angry following his sacking by Southend and he criticised them for lack of loyalty to him. When he got the managers job with us, he said he was grateful for being given the opportunity at Rovers. He is a hypocrite and we can now see his real character in action my opinion. Goodbye GC. Thanks for leaving us 4th, our highest position for many a year. I do actually appreciate that. I wasn't your biggest fan at first. Poor football but we are in a results based business and you got the result. Fair shout to you. You were just winning more fans over too. So this is very poor timing and I just don't appreciate that you waste this chance with us for a potential great season in the league and still in 2 cups to move to L2 18th place Mansfield. Hopefully you get relegated to non league. Close the door on your way out. Thanks. Bitter and angry - yes. Absofuckinglutely. No tin hat needed, not from me in any case. Pretty much my feelings too. Only at Rovers eh!!
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