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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 17:49:13 GMT
I don't think JCH waving his arms in the air and getting on the back of team mates helps anyone. If a good bid comes in then I think the time might be right to let him move on. His body language is not good and provided the money is re-invested wisely then a move might be best for him and the club.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 1, 2020 17:49:50 GMT
Yes.
Sell and give BG as much £ as possible to reinvest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 17:52:13 GMT
I expect that his agent has already got something in the pipeline.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 1, 2020 17:57:05 GMT
I don't think JCH waving his arms in the air and getting on the back of team mates helps anyone. If a good bid comes in then I think the time might be right to let him move on. His body language is not good and provided the money is re-invested wisely then a move might be best for him and the club. When did we ever do that as a club? Although surely all BG as to do is tell if he does again he'll be subbed off, I doubt GC would have let him get away with it. |
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Post by brfc on Jan 1, 2020 18:13:10 GMT
yeah if a big offer comes in then I would sell and try get a replacement but the big thing we need is creativity we could sign Messi and he would still be sh** because of no service and mostly all of JCH goals have been set up from himself
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 1, 2020 18:14:13 GMT
His value is going down every game st the minute.
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 1, 2020 18:24:01 GMT
Let's see how he plays against Coventry, surely he will be fired up against them,a and to be honest at the moment I can't see us getting much for him,not exactly setting the division on fire is he.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 1, 2020 18:25:46 GMT
Whats the point in keeping him if he continues to be starved of any decent service?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 1, 2020 18:28:02 GMT
I don't think JCH waving his arms in the air and getting on the back of team mates helps anyone. If a good bid comes in then I think the time might be right to let him move on. His body language is not good and provided the money is re-invested wisely then a move might be best for him and the club. When did we ever do that as a club? Although surely all BG as to do is tell if he does again he'll be subbed off, I doubt GC would have let him get away with it. He's done it since he was signed, GC let him get away with it all the time. Fans are only noticing now, as he's not performing. He just shows his passion and he always has, the squad will know this. Even when on the top of his game, he was still doing it every time things didn't go his way. Coventry fans said the same. |
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Post by axegas on Jan 1, 2020 18:30:33 GMT
Let's not forget that he's our top scorer with almost double figures in the league and that his contributions last season saved us from relegation.
Seems unbelievable that after a few games of not being at his best people are now trying to flog him off.
His attitude has been poor and I hope Garner deals with it but we need to keep this guy around as we'll struggle to replace his goals big time.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jan 1, 2020 18:33:34 GMT
Let's see how he plays against Coventry, surely he will be fired up against them,a and to be honest at the moment I can't see us getting much for him,not exactly setting the division on fire is he. With every game he plays it becomes more evident that he doesn't want to be here anymore. His competitive attitude has gradually changed to a sulky player with an air of sullenness and exasperation. In employment terms he is serving his notice period. It is commonplace for employees in the workplace who are serving their notice to "switch off" and underperform. it will be a real shame if he leaves us with a tarnished reputation especially after the heroics of last season. I suppose that is one of the differences between JCH and Lambert. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 1, 2020 18:34:45 GMT
Sell, our current squad with youngsters coming through could do without the petulance being shown by JCH at the moment, if we are going to achieve anything this season it will because of team ethics ,one for all ,all for one, take a leaf out of Ellis's book and give 100% and with a smile on your face!even if the game is passing you by!
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Post by xenongas on Jan 1, 2020 19:17:43 GMT
When did we ever do that as a club? Although surely all BG as to do is tell if he does again he'll be subbed off, I doubt GC would have let him get away with it. He's done it since he was signed, GC let him get away with it all the time. Fans are only noticing now, as he's not performing. He just shows his passion and he always has, the squad will know this. Even when on the top of his game, he was still doing it every time things didn't go his way. Coventry fans said the same. I wonder if GC indulged him more than BG is/will? I imagine being told to rein it in even a little bit would rank up the frustration. He has always walked a fine line between competitiveness and petulance. When I've heard him talk after games he's always been critically minded - even after a win. Could be taken as he is desperate to win, which is a quality that is a prerequisite to progress further up the pyramid from our current position. On the other hand it can have an effect on the players around him. The commentary team over the last couple of games keep coming back to that point although I think they've over egged that particular trope. He'll be hard to replace but not irreplaceable. I'm sure BG will have an idea for the type of striker he wants - whether that be a direct replacement or not. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 1, 2020 19:20:32 GMT
He's done it since he was signed, GC let him get away with it all the time. Fans are only noticing now, as he's not performing. He just shows his passion and he always has, the squad will know this. Even when on the top of his game, he was still doing it every time things didn't go his way. Coventry fans said the same. I wonder if GC indulged him more than BG is/will? I imagine being told to rein it in even a little bit would rank up the frustration. He has always walked a fine line between competitiveness and petulance. When I've heard him talk after games he's always been critically minded - even after a win. Could be taken as he is desperate to win, which is a quality that is a prerequisite to progress further up the pyramid from our current position. On the other hand it can have an effect on the players around him. The commentary team over the last couple of games keep coming back to that point although I think they've over egged that particular trope. He'll be hard to replace but not irreplaceable. I'm sure BG will have an idea for the type of striker he wants - whether that be a direct replacement or not. If you look at Craig, he does it to the defender's. A lot of teams need player's like that. Like you say though, it can have a bad effect on some player's. A fine line between wanting to win and moaning too much. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 1, 2020 19:23:21 GMT
I don't think JCH waving his arms in the air and getting on the back of team mates helps anyone. If a good bid comes in then I think the time might be right to let him move on. His body language is not good and provided the money is re-invested wisely then a move might be best for him and the club. Totally agree; he does not want to be at the club, acted like a idiot today, get rid asap. BG apparently has players in mind and could do with the money from selling JCH. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 19:27:39 GMT
Not sell, but definitely bench. I’d go back to Smith and Nichols up front as against Ipswich and Peterborough. For all the ease with which we can blame Garner for the 1 point from 9 JCH came back for those games too so it could be argued that he doesn’t help us at the moment when he’s not scoring goals (and he isn’t doing much of that either at the moment). Perhaps we are a better team without him? I’d be looking to test that theory.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jan 1, 2020 19:28:11 GMT
As I reported post Fleetwood, his attitude stank that day and it stank even worse today.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 1, 2020 19:33:00 GMT
I wonder if GC indulged him more than BG is/will? I imagine being told to rein it in even a little bit would rank up the frustration. He has always walked a fine line between competitiveness and petulance. When I've heard him talk after games he's always been critically minded - even after a win. Could be taken as he is desperate to win, which is a quality that is a prerequisite to progress further up the pyramid from our current position. On the other hand it can have an effect on the players around him. The commentary team over the last couple of games keep coming back to that point although I think they've over egged that particular trope. He'll be hard to replace but not irreplaceable. I'm sure BG will have an idea for the type of striker he wants - whether that be a direct replacement or not. If you look at Craig, he does it to the defender's. A lot of teams need player's like that. Like you say though, it can have a bad effect on some player's. A fine line between wanting to win and moaning too much. Good point, and Craig has played at the higher level we aspire to be involved in. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 1, 2020 19:35:12 GMT
Not sell, but definitely bench. I’d go back to Smith and Nichols up front as against Ipswich and Peterborough. For all the ease with which we can blame Garner for the 1 point from 9 JCH came back for those games too so it could be argued that he doesn’t help us at the moment when he’s not scoring goals (and he isn’t doing much of that either at the moment). Perhaps we are a better team without him? I’d be looking to test that theory. Smith is injured. He was looking on before he got injured as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 20:13:40 GMT
Yeah sell, pay off some debt and Chuck a youngster in - lol! Imagine...
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