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Post by cockergas on Jan 11, 2020 19:52:55 GMT
I don’t see that much has changed since GC left. He realised after early poor results that he needed to play a back three with wingbacks.
The football tended to be dire and most opposing teams played better football but we managed to grind out the results, indeed we all blamed the sh** being served up as the reason why attendance figures were down.
BG has inherited the same squad and for most of his games has kept to the wingbacks system, he doesn’t have a recognised right back due to injury’s so has little choice. Indeed today there were moans that he didn’t bring on the new loanee from the start, but he is not going to play a right wingback and a right winger!
We need to understand that little is going to change in the short term due to the players available, and the quicker we do that the less poisonous this forum will be.
The run in will be tough The football won’t be pretty Injured plays will start to return and there may still be one or two new faces We need to stay behind the manager and his team, remember we are the 12th man BG and his team are doing their best for the Gas and, performances will improve.
Keep the faith. UTH
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2020 19:57:23 GMT
Completely agree with the OP.
We were equally as sh** today as we have been all season.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 11, 2020 19:59:06 GMT
One word. Results.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2020 20:04:05 GMT
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Post by onedaygas83 on Jan 11, 2020 20:08:23 GMT
I don’t see that much has changed since GC left. He realised after early poor results that he needed to play a back three with wingbacks. The football tended to be dire and most opposing teams played better football but we managed to grind out the results, indeed we all blamed the sh** being served up as the reason why attendance figures were down. BG has inherited the same squad and for most of his games has kept to the wingbacks system, he doesn’t have a recognised right back due to injury’s so has little choice. Indeed today there were moans that he didn’t bring on the new loanee from the start, but he is not going to play a right wingback and a right winger! We need to understand that little is going to change in the short term due to the players available, and the quicker we do that the less poisonous this forum will be. The run in will be tough The football won’t be pretty Injured plays will start to return and there may still be one or two new faces We need to stay behind the manager and his team, remember we are the 12th man BG and his team are doing their best for the Gas and, performances will improve. Keep the faith. UTH well the turd under GC was a top six turd 3 weeks ago and I believe we'd be top 3 if he was still in charge. Yes the football wasn't great but the results were and I believe still would be if not for the change in approach from this new manager. We've gone from being big physical,strong and hard to beat to a team of bottlers who cant get a shot on target let alone a goal! Maybe the turd is the new guy in charge? Ever thought that or shall we just blame the players again?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 20:18:26 GMT
Another word. Entertainment. We're not getting it under Garner yet, but we had no hope whatsoever of getting it under Coughlan.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 11, 2020 20:20:30 GMT
Another word. Entertainment. We're not getting it under Garner yet, but we had no hope whatsoever of getting it under Coughlan. Results and entertainment were better under GC based on so far.
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Post by cockergas on Jan 11, 2020 20:21:14 GMT
So what is the change of approach? How did we set up differently and play today than how we did under GC.
Up until the end of the game it was a solid battling display and Jordi didn’t have a real save to make. If JCH had scored with that header what would we be talking about now?
We concede 2 right at the death and it’s all down to BGs tactics?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2020 20:22:05 GMT
Another word. Entertainment. We're not getting it under Garner yet, but we had no hope whatsoever of getting it under Coughlan. Results and entertainment were better under GC based on so far. Are you joking? That was every bit as bad as every other GC offering.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 20:28:23 GMT
Another word. Entertainment. We're not getting it under Garner yet, but we had no hope whatsoever of getting it under Coughlan. Results and entertainment were better under GC based on so far. Results yes. I can honestly say that, the second half of Southend, Shrewsbury and Ipswich apart, I wasn't entertained by a Coughlan team. That's 3 games in a year. Give the bloke a chance!
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Post by ilysagas on Jan 11, 2020 20:31:02 GMT
Crazily, think I will wait till the summer before forming an opinion on this new manager. I was still forming my opinion of GC when he quit....I'm not a short termer. I never took to him and couldn't really say why.
In the meantime I will just watch and support. And wince at the negativity, and vitriolic fickleness of some fellow gasheads.
Going to the match on Tuesday with my 13 year old stepdaughter and don't expect it to go well, but will still stay calm if we get beats like last time at St Andrews.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2020 20:32:06 GMT
How can anyone compare today/Garners reign to Coughlans football?! This is 50x worse.
The defence makes more errors, the midfield don’t support the defence or attack and JCH looks completely disinterested.
There is no direction on the pitch at all, at times you can literally see players confused as to who’s supposed to do what.
Whilst we didn’t play fantastic football before, the players had direction and knew what they were supposed to do.
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Post by RD on Jan 11, 2020 20:36:03 GMT
Ben Garner isn't a manager. He's a coach. He doesn't have any charisma or any authority. He talks a good game which is how he persuaded our board. Blokes a fraud.
Sooner he's gone, the sooner we can appoint and actual manager and try and move forwards.
Mark my words, by the time he's gone, he will be down as one of - if not the worst - manager in our history.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 11, 2020 20:42:05 GMT
I expected us to slide down the table, regardless of whether GC or BG were in charge.
I didn’t expect us to be this good at doing it though!
Early days still for Ben and unfortunately took over the club in a false position IMO. Genuinely think that’s why there’s such a poor reaction on here. We were third or whatever and now we’re 12th in just a few games.
I’m not phased by it. We were never gonna go up and were never challengers. Think it’s ridiculous that people are on his back already but that’s football.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 20:42:06 GMT
Ben Garner isn't a manager. He's a coach. He doesn't have any charisma or any authority. He talks a good game which is how he persuaded our board. Blokes a fraud. Sooner he's gone, the sooner we can appoint and actual manager and try and move forwards. Mark my words, by the time he's gone, he will be down as one of - if not the worst - manager in our history. From what I have seen and heard so far, I for one would not disagree with you Roverdrive.
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Post by cockergas on Jan 11, 2020 20:44:59 GMT
I expected us to slide down the table, regardless of whether GC or BG were in charge. I didn’t expect us to be this good at doing it though! Early days still for Ben and unfortunately took over the club in a false position IMO. Genuinely think that’s why there’s such a poor reaction on here. We were third or whatever and now we’re 12th in just a few games. I’m not phased by it. We were never gonna go up and were never challengers. Think it’s ridiculous that people are on his back already but that’s football. So you have first hand experience of his training sessions and dressing room team talks then?
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Post by cockergas on Jan 11, 2020 20:46:26 GMT
Sorry was replying to Roverdrive
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 11, 2020 20:50:03 GMT
Results and entertainment were better under GC based on so far. Are you joking? That was every bit as bad as every other GC offering. but we won and results count - personally speaking I don’t give a sh** about the style of the football - trying to play like Brazil is difficult with players that we will attract in league 1
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Post by RD on Jan 11, 2020 20:50:46 GMT
Sorry was replying to Roverdrive Not sure what his training sessions have to do with anything - after all, I said he's a coach. Pretty obvious from his interviews he's not a fiery or authorative figure. Be very surprised if anyone in the dressing room respects him - never managed, never played the game professionally... And let's be honest it shows. I honestly beleive he's already lost the dressing room. And FWIW, prior to a few weeks ago I do indeed have as much managerial experience as Garner. I.e. zero.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 11, 2020 20:51:52 GMT
Are you joking? That was every bit as bad as every other GC offering. but we win and results count - personally speaking I don’t give a sh** about the style of the football - trying to play like Brazil is difficult with players that we will attract in league 1 surely it would be more entertaining to challenge for playoffs and even dare I say chase promotion to play championship football? Tippy tappy football all the way to league two sounds hellish to me. Cant see what is entertaining about that.
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