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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2020 4:56:39 GMT
They're all improvements, pirate. Please don't ignore even the tiniest betterer. I want more, much more, who doesn't? I've just come to a point where expectations lead very many times to equal disappointments. You obviously expect more....good luck to you with that. Don't forget the new gate! A nice touch wouldn't you say? The exception to the rule of hating everything to do with the Gate..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 8:08:56 GMT
Will never happen. If you publicly raise issues about the ground you get derided and shouted down. It's been tried a million times but this fanbase seems particularly docile. Better to find a nice non-league side to attend until the sh** hits the fan. We will be soon the way things are going 😢
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 8:24:48 GMT
Still as rag bag and unprofessional as ever. LED. End of season awards. Season ticket promotion video we sold less season tickets hows that a improvement? Trials of transportation to matches.when did this start? Best pitch in years.and worst football? Media department revitalised. A restaurant where most attending have paid funds to the club.explain please? Refurbished bar X2.ill give you that one Refurbished shop.😂 Highest position in 20 years (save a few weeks in 2009).we are heading for a relagation battle? Yep, ragbag.. ,We are losing the younger supporters ask your self why,the match day experience is awful then we got to watch the football. YES RAGBAG
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 19, 2020 8:32:11 GMT
Whilst I don't disagree with your post, one of the main criticism of they club for many a year was how ragbag and unprofessional we were (or are, depending on your pov?). An isolation or and marginalising of the more negativity of that aspect can be seen as raising standards. Maybe it's the way they've done it that is causing major offence? This is the old chestnut that local gasheads somehow cannot also be talented and professional. Frankly it is bollocks. Utter balls. I judge people on what they produce, not what they say, who they know or how Machiavellian they can be. Wael and the staff he has brought in really have not done a better job than many before them, in fact some have caused huge divisions. They have caused them not by weeding out dodgy or inefficient people, but by being immature and frankly not very nice at times. I have to say Mehew, that’s just a complete ignorance of the facts and progress the 0202 has put up. Our commercial department now is head and shoulders above what it used to be. It draws more income than it ever has. It has to be said that most of the ways of generating that income have been cost neutral over the course of 12 months. We can all be a bit sentimental about our football club. But it still operates like a business, and there is or at least should not be any sentimentality in business. If someone isn’t performing and can’t/won’t improve and can be replaced by better then it should be done. As harsh as that sounds.
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Post by peterparker on Jan 19, 2020 8:39:23 GMT
There will never be a real protest, because anyone who wants one wont get off their ass or they just dont bother going anymore
At best you would get a few sack the board chants, which mean what exactly
You want someone out, but have no one to replace the owners, and there is no gaurauntee that anyone that comes in will be any better
Repeat and do it all again or not
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Post by socrates on Jan 19, 2020 8:51:27 GMT
Let’s back Wael like Sheep, he’s such a nice man who’s gone silent for two years. You don’t have to back them either. Screaming from the rooftops for the board to leave, with no actual fit & proper successors lined up to step in, is total lunacy. Yeah I don’t really get the whole sack the board thing. They own the club , who sacks them us ? They’re not our employees we can’t sack them.
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Post by cockergas on Jan 19, 2020 8:54:08 GMT
Pointless thread. Owners (shareholder) own the club/business. The owners appoint a board of directors to run the club/business on their behalf (Starnes and Wael?). So whenStarnes says he doesn’t know if Dwayne want to sell he is probably telling the truth, it’s not part of running the club so not his remit. So the owners (Dwayne S) could succumb to fans wishes and sack their appointed Board of Directors, great, but...... Who will appoint the replacement board, oh yes it will be Dwayne, so what will the protest have achieved, indeed how will a terrace protest help our team who are currently struggling, 12th man and solidarity on match days is what is needed, there is a clue in the name - supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 8:58:15 GMT
There's one thing that shows up our owners for what they are. A piece of wasteland they bought just off the M5 motorway a couple of years or so ago in order to build a training ground etc. Plenty of pomp and ceremony at the time but when it came to having to spend money to develop it, they have clearly failed. That land is still a wasteland and the new ground they promised us when they took over with planning permission already in place never happened along with redeveloping the Mem and in spite of telling us they are actively seeking a site to achieve that goal nothing has happened. That sums up what they have done for BRFC, all the other minor bits and pieces are simply that, minor!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2020 8:58:49 GMT
LED. End of season awards. Season ticket promotion video we sold less season tickets hows that a improvement? Trials of transportation to matches.when did this start? Best pitch in years.and worst football? Media department revitalised. A restaurant where most attending have paid funds to the club.explain please? Refurbished bar X2.ill give you that one Refurbished shop.😂 Highest position in 20 years (save a few weeks in 2009).we are heading for a relagation battle? Yep, ragbag.. ,We are losing the younger supporters ask your self why,the match day experience is awful then we got to watch the football. YES RAGBAG We've been steadily losing youth over a number of years - matchday experience, board, cr@p football, pastygate, Santa's grotto apart. With the exception of Stoke, we must be the only city where two established league clubs are so far apart, so competition is......well we can't compete, simples. We are the underdog, but ragbag is not accurate as there have been improvements under the Wael tenure ship that drags us away from that adjective.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 8:58:59 GMT
My Mrs works in HR and has just reminded me that we need to follow best practices. If the board have completed their probation period, which they have, then we need to start with a verbal warning. This could be followed up by another then a final written warning. Unfortunately we cannot just sack them unless gross misconduct can be proven.
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Post by cockergas on Jan 19, 2020 9:03:11 GMT
My Mrs works in HR and has just reminded me that we need to follow best practices. If the board have completed their probation period, which they have, then we need to start with a verbal warning. This could be followed up by another then a final written warning. Unfortunately we cannot just sack them unless gross misconduct can be proven. you would probably also have to ask them to work to a performance improvement plan! Must also remembered that we don’t employ the board so how can we sack them?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 9:04:24 GMT
My Mrs works in HR and has just reminded me that we need to follow best practices. If the board have completed their probation period, which they have, then we need to start with a verbal warning. This could be followed up by another then a final written warning. Unfortunately we cannot just sack them unless gross misconduct can be proven. you would probably also have to ask them to work to a performance improvement plan! Must also remembered that we don’t employ the board so how can we sack them? Yes of course I was not being serious.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2020 9:05:46 GMT
It might be more productive to sack the bored?
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 19, 2020 9:07:37 GMT
protest against what exactly? An owner covering the huge losses now involved in running a football club? An owner fighting off a group of machiavellian amateurs trying to force a bad deal for the club? It’s the same noise that black and gold had when Higgs was in charge. There wasn’t actually any point to it, because no one had actually put forward a plan of how to do things differently with a guarantee to prop up the club. They just fancied a noisier moan than usual. What is the deal trying to be forced through and why is it bad for the club?
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Post by cockergas on Jan 19, 2020 9:11:25 GMT
you would probably also have to ask them to work to a performance improvement plan! Must also remembered that we don’t employ the board so how can we sack them? Yes of course I was not being serious. neither was I hence the ‘performance plan’ comment, sorry if it looked like I was picking you up on a point.
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Post by gasify on Jan 19, 2020 9:17:00 GMT
Still as rag bag and unprofessional as ever. LED. End of season awards. Season ticket promotion video. Trials of transportation to matches. Best pitch in years. Media department revitalised. A restaurant where most attending have paid funds to the club. Refurbished bar X2. Refurbished shop. Highest position in 20 years (save a few weeks in 2009). Yep, ragbag.. The Development squad that has brought around 5 players into the first team this season. Electronic Turnsyles, allowing us to be cashless at the gate. I think they have done the best they could under the circumstances. I dont think they were expecting such big losses when they originally purchased the club. I haven't seen anything to make me think that we were rail roaded into thinking UWE was a bad deal. Maybe, simply it was a bad deal with UWE wanting to keep more of the revenue/control than made commercial sense. If you owned a restaurant and you were making a loss on your food sales then getting a second restaurant is only going to increase the losses you are making. What needs to change is the business model and margins. It's really easy to point the finger and say that they are doing a bad job. Let's turn this around, what 5 things should they have done by now?
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Post by endicotton on Jan 19, 2020 9:25:14 GMT
Well where are the suggestions of positive change to this protest. If you are going to protest it has to be meaningful with a clear vision of change backed up with a well thought out plan. Oh and with funds to support it. . I agree with that, but I’m not sure we really need the eulogising of the servicing of the debt. The reason why no-one can come up with an alternative plan is because no-one would be mad enough to pay 17 million to buy these jokers out because of the debts *they* ran up and they, being bankers, are not willing to take a loss on the chin as part of their poor running of the club. They have taken the ownership of the club out of the reach of a well meaning local businessman- the only people we can hope to ride in and save us are a consortium of venture capitalists who will have machinations on the stadium land in some form or other. This administration is now exceeding Higgs’s mob for incompetence and damage done, the last thing they need is a slap on the back or to be congratulated! Anyone know exactly how much debt we are actually currently in atm?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2020 9:31:05 GMT
LED. End of season awards. Season ticket promotion video. Trials of transportation to matches. Best pitch in years. Media department revitalised. A restaurant where most attending have paid funds to the club. Refurbished bar X2. Refurbished shop. Highest position in 20 years (save a few weeks in 2009). Yep, ragbag.. Let's turn this around, what 5 things should they have done by now? Sack Gorringe. Sack Starnesy. Sack Nichols. Sack Garner. Sack themselves. Apparently... 🙄
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 19, 2020 9:50:28 GMT
Its pretty tragic that in 4 years of WAQy ownership all you can come up with is that pathetic list, no offence to you of course. Expectations have certainly been lowered. They're all improvements, pirate. Please don't ignore even the tiniest betterer. I want more, much more, who doesn't? I've just come to a point where expectations lead very many times to equal disappointments. You obviously expect more....good luck to you with that. This is a stupid comment, we're not the 82'ers demanding LJ's head because we've lost a game or Man C fans upset because we won't win the title for 10th year running! I doubt things are worse for any other football fans who live in a town a similar size to Bristol.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 19, 2020 10:05:44 GMT
There will never be a real protest, because anyone who wants one wont get off their ass or they just dont bother going anymore At best you would get a few sack the board chants, which mean what exactly You want someone out, but have no one to replace the owners, and there is no gaurauntee that anyone that comes in will be any better Repeat and do it all again or not We're only a few weeks past being the best we've been for twenty years. The fact is we went down to the conference with barely a whimper from the fans and the SC under a regime that had done almost nothing to the stadium. We're hardly going to protest about being two leagues higher in a better (albeit still half-arsed and ragbag) stadium. That's not much of a casus belli. I feel like we will have to get relegated before anyone mobilises. And even then it's not gonna be made to happen by people sat on their arses posting on the internet about other people sat on their arses posting on the internet. As people have said it's gonna require a clear plan and a vision and a decent means.
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