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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 9, 2020 15:40:58 GMT
What a jumped up little Pillock; he's now the first manager I have actively disliked.
Who is this con-man to judge any former pro when it comes to coaching!?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 9, 2020 15:41:47 GMT
BG says today 'I’m constantly assessing everything here. Not just the players, but the staff. Who will take this his club forward, who’s got the desire to do well, who’s going to buy into what I’m trying to do?' Sounds like it's not just the players who might be struggling with our new managers methods. Must be a bit concerning to be told you are being assessed for 'buy-in' ? Mansell has been very lucky to be given a job after ending his playing days. It's time for the club to move on from the non-league personnel. Mansell could go to for example, Torquay or Gloucester, we need to be more ambitious here. If Mansell is lucky BG must have won the Euromilllions ten times over.
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Post by axegas on Mar 9, 2020 15:42:26 GMT
What a jumped up little Pillock; he's now the first manager I have actively disliked.Who is this con-man to judge any former pro when it comes to coaching!? You not been supporting the gas for very long?
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Post by landrover on Mar 9, 2020 16:29:18 GMT
What a jumped up little Pillock; he's now the first manager I have actively disliked. Who is this con-man to judge any former pro when it comes to coaching!? As I looked more and more into BG ( I had never heard of him before pirates input) it became obvious that here we had another robotic, painting by numbers type coach. He was putting his name forward for jobs that he had no chance of getting. Nottingham Forest and Bradford in particular. It was apparent the he had an ego and in interviews always associated himself with big names in football. Holloway, Warnock and Pardew moved on from Palace yet none of them took BG with them. Pulis did take him to West Brom yet the first thing that Megson did when he took over from TP was to get him out, calling him a negative influence around the club. Pulis went to Middlesbrough without him. I suspect his big problem is that he is too ambitious. Nothing wrong with that but you need to know your limitations.
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Post by theduke on Mar 9, 2020 16:37:04 GMT
What a jumped up little Pillock; he's now the first manager I have actively disliked. Who is this con-man to judge any former pro when it comes to coaching!? As I looked more and more into BG ( I had never heard of him before pirates input) it became obvious that here we had another robotic, painting by numbers type coach. He was putting his name forward for jobs that he had no chance of getting. Nottingham Forest and Bradford in particular. It was apparent the he had an ego and in interviews always associated himself with big names in football. Holloway, Warnock and Pardew moved on from Palace yet none of them took BG with them. Pulis did take him to West Brom yet the first thing that Megson did when he took over from TP was to get him out, calling him a negative influence around the club. Pulis went to Middlesbrough without him. I suspect his big problem is that he is too ambitious. Nothing wrong with that but you need to know your limitations. All I know is that from the minute Garner walked through the door at the interview, Wael fell head over heels for him. He would have got the job in December '18 if it wasn't for the fact that it was deemed "too risky" to overhaul the playing squad and style at a time the club looked pretty certain to go down. He's always been the one and it would take something catastrophic such as season ticket renewals bombing or relegation for anything to change. He's here to stay, for better or worse, get used to it.
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Post by rosssgb on Mar 9, 2020 19:03:02 GMT
Should be reviewing his own future. Again another weird interview and thing to say publicly imo.
Characters are what make lower league clubs, and I feel virtually no affinity with anyone or player we currently have. Removing Mansell and Hargreaves would tear what’s left out of an already soulless club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 19:05:09 GMT
What a jumped up little Pillock; he's now the first manager I have actively disliked.Who is this con-man to judge any former pro when it comes to coaching!? You not been supporting the gas for very long? I was going to say...that’s quite a statement considering he’s got some strong competition! Buckle, Atkins, McGhee, that’s just off the top of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 19:08:46 GMT
As I looked more and more into BG ( I had never heard of him before pirates input) it became obvious that here we had another robotic, painting by numbers type coach. He was putting his name forward for jobs that he had no chance of getting. Nottingham Forest and Bradford in particular. It was apparent the he had an ego and in interviews always associated himself with big names in football. Holloway, Warnock and Pardew moved on from Palace yet none of them took BG with them. Pulis did take him to West Brom yet the first thing that Megson did when he took over from TP was to get him out, calling him a negative influence around the club. Pulis went to Middlesbrough without him. I suspect his big problem is that he is too ambitious. Nothing wrong with that but you need to know your limitations. All I know is that from the minute Garner walked through the door at the interview, Wael fell head over heels for him. He would have got the job in December '18 if it wasn't for the fact that it was deemed "too risky" to overhaul the playing squad and style at a time the club looked pretty certain to go down. He's always been the one and it would take something catastrophic such as season ticket renewals bombing or relegation for anything to change. He's here to stay, for better or worse, get used to it. What a depressing read. Mind you as we have seen Wael seems to like surrounding himself with yes men and Garner is basically the managerial equivalent of Starnes so I can see how, even on a personality level, Garner is Wael’s dream manager especially after the out spoken likes of GC and DC.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 9, 2020 19:13:45 GMT
Think it's the first one who openly does not give a flying fk what the fans think about him.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 9, 2020 19:20:29 GMT
He must be one of only very few managers that is incapable of succeeding unless he replaces his entire playing squad and his entire staff.
A bad workman always blames his tools.
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Post by gaseous on Mar 9, 2020 20:00:45 GMT
Is he trying to make me dislike him even more? If Mansell leaves the club because of Garner I'll be f*cking livid. I too would feel the same especially what Mansell has done in his time with us. I don't think it will come to that anyway, BG will be gone unless he pulls off a masterstroke tomorrow night and we beat the mackems. It's funny, I know I shouldn't say it but if we lose its another nail in the coffin but another nail for starnes to pull back out. UTG
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 9, 2020 21:10:06 GMT
So many of us have been saying that if we don't win the next game (especially if it is at home) BG will be sacked. Yet he is still here.
I'm beginning to think that he will be here for the whole season, regardless of results.
Totally depressing.
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Post by norton gasbottle on Mar 9, 2020 21:12:56 GMT
I agree to an extent and in the past i've been a BG supporter, But the players have got a lot to answer for. Ollie Clark as BG has said is, But is not a championship player,to slow gets caught in possession & too many cards,Ed Upson is similar too slow ,not getting any younger,this is our engine room they get left behind when we attack and defend., Sercs has gone of the boil, our defense at times have been unlucky 2 deflection on saturday..but are being punished for odd errors.our attack is none existent apart from Mitchell Lawson,the manager says he takes responsibility after all being good on the training ground.then its down to the players..too much player power in clubs in my opinion .perhaps he's pushing them too hard in training and they don't like it.I hope it changes for him.....PS What he said about Barrett comes to mind, perhaps not working hard enough and overweight, on two year plus contract.
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Post by lpgas on Mar 9, 2020 21:56:35 GMT
I agree to an extent and in the past i've been a BG supporter, But the players have got a lot to answer for. Ollie Clark as BG has said is, But is not a championship player,to slow gets caught in possession & too many cards,Ed Upson is similar too slow ,not getting any younger,this is our engine room they get left behind when we attack and defend., Sercs has gone of the boil, our defense at times have been unlucky 2 deflection on saturday..but are being punished for odd errors.our attack is none existent apart from Mitchell Lawson,the manager says he takes responsibility after all being good on the training ground.then its down to the players..too much player power in clubs in my opinion .perhaps he's pushing them too hard in training and they don't like it.I hope it changes for him.....PS What he said about Barrett comes to mind, perhaps not working hard enough and overweight, on two year plus contract. He signed him. His responsiblity
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Post by Icegas on Mar 10, 2020 12:05:42 GMT
Is he trying to make me dislike him even more? If Mansell leaves the club because of Garner I'll be f*cking livid. He’s doing a brilliant job of digging a hole. Needs to look in the mirror as to where the fault is. Clearly losing his sh** now. Agreed.During his pre sunderland interview he stated people buying into what he is trying to do etc... sh**,losing football..? Im off to the betting shop to up a bet on us losing 3-0, or 4-0 tonight. Think he will be gone then and you will never see him in a manager role again. Seems a nice guy, talks a great game but if he lose's tonight he should 1000% be gone.Should really have been the case after the shewsbury game.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 10, 2020 12:14:45 GMT
Should be reviewing his own future. Again another weird interview and thing to say publicly imo. Characters are what make lower league clubs, and I feel virtually no affinity with anyone or player we currently have. Removing Mansell and Hargreaves would tear what’s left out of an already soulless club. Thats what I feel.We are Dam souless in everyway and Ive never felt that way about us in 25 years, even in 2014. Im kinda hoping we get beat tonight, and heavy as it will force the owners hands to make a change. Guts me say this and Ive never once had that throught before but after walking out on the 70min against sherwsbury something flipped in my head and I saw how the club taking the water out us fans in everyway.
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Post by LJG on Mar 10, 2020 12:38:13 GMT
BG says today 'I’m constantly assessing everything here. Not just the players, but the staff. Who will take this his club forward, who’s got the desire to do well, who’s going to buy into what I’m trying to do?' Sounds like it's not just the players who might be struggling with our new managers methods. Must be a bit concerning to be told you are being assessed for 'buy-in' ? Mansell has been very lucky to be given a job after ending his playing days. It's time for the club to move on from the non-league personnel. Mansell could go to for example, Torquay or Gloucester, we need to be more ambitious here. Hmm. This sounds like complete and utter garbage.
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