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Post by mjhgas on Nov 13, 2014 11:40:49 GMT
At no point have I said that boarding the team bus is acceptable!
If fans are getting on the bus in anger, they perhaps should reconsider why they go to football.
If we lose three games in the next six games, DC will be under enormous pressure. Still think fans won't accept anything less than top 5. If you do, then you listened to Paul Buckle!!!
I'm sorry, but a full time squad should be beating a part time squad - 9 times out of 10!!!
I'm quite happy with 4th place, and come April, we can be playing with bigger crowds ready for the auto promotion push!!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 13, 2014 11:40:52 GMT
Us genuine gasheads need to show the team and manager our support on Saturday. It sounds as if morale is low and if anyone can get the morale back up then it is us. Let's drown out these idiots. If they don't want to support our football club then they can quite frankly f**k off.
UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 13, 2014 11:43:05 GMT
At no point have I said that boarding the team bus is acceptable! If fans are getting on the bus in anger, they perhaps should reconsider why they go to football. If we lose three games in the next six games, DC will be under enormous pressure. Still think fans won't accept anything less than top 5. If you do, then you listened to Paul Buckle!!! I'm sorry, but a full time squad should be beating a part time squad - 9 times out of 10!!! I'm quite happy with 4th place, and come April, we can be playing with bigger crowds ready for the auto promotion push!!! You need to get this full time/part timer rubbish out your head mate. So if we lost to Woking who are near the top then you would be more disappointed than say losing to Lincol ? Just because Woking are part time?
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Post by mjhgas on Nov 13, 2014 11:49:01 GMT
At no point have I said that boarding the team bus is acceptable! If fans are getting on the bus in anger, they perhaps should reconsider why they go to football. If we lose three games in the next six games, DC will be under enormous pressure. Still think fans won't accept anything less than top 5. If you do, then you listened to Paul Buckle!!! I'm sorry, but a full time squad should be beating a part time squad - 9 times out of 10!!! I'm quite happy with 4th place, and come April, we can be playing with bigger crowds ready for the auto promotion push!!! You need to get this full time/part timer rubbish out your head mate. So if we lost to Woking who are near the top then you would be more disappointed than say losing to Lincol ? Just because Woking are part time? A team practicing it's job on a full time basis should be better than a team that trains 3 evenings a week having completed a full days work! Anything wrong with that line of thinking? I expect Rovers to win every game they play, and always have done!!! It doesn't mean I stand on the terraces yelling at players or the manager for 90 minutes.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Nov 13, 2014 11:49:45 GMT
Many of these part time sides have players more than capable of playing for a full time Conference and even L2 side but when they are being paid X amount per game for their club plus their regular full time job, it will take a very decent contract offer to tempt them into the full time game. Something which many clubs cannot afford.
Yes it is frustrating losing/drawing to part time sides, but very often the calibre of players is just as good as others at this level.
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2014 12:02:50 GMT
Rovers Facebook page. Some of the numpties that post on there are priceless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:08:07 GMT
Cant say I'm surprised. I'm constantly disappointed in some of our so called supporters. For every good one there's two belters.
I used to think we had a great fanbase. Sadly the truth is we have an exceptional minority and the rest are destructive.
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Post by RD on Nov 13, 2014 12:10:12 GMT
This has really upset me. Personally I think DC is doing a grand job and, whilst we're not the finished article, he's put together a team of players who finally look proud to wear the shirt and always give 100%.
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Post by wreckless on Nov 13, 2014 12:17:34 GMT
I would have thought it's pretty obvious why a significant number of fans are expressing their frustration. We were in League 1 not so long ago. Now we're not even in the Football League. As a result, we're effectively paying the same amount to see a grossly inferior product. At this level, we're OK, but we're not exactly walking all over the opposition or playing attractive football. Are we supposed to be deliriously happy that we managed a draw this week against a team of part timers , and couldn't even score a goal? It's unlikely (but still possible, I accept) that we will win the league. IF we get to the play-offs we have a 25% chance of promotion. We have a manager who took us out of the League and has achieved nothing at this level. Who can be surprised that some fans wanted him out after one week of the season? Since then, he's done nothing to convince me that he will take us back up. And why is he bringing up now something that happened 3 months ago? People who try and invade team buses deserve what's coming to them, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for feeling angry and frustrated. Frankly, we deserve better than this. You're missing the point. We don't not understand some fans feeling frustrated with where we are now?. Most if not all Rovers fans have been frustrated by that over the past year. This however, doesn't mean that we should all go round plastering posters of wanting Clarke out and constantly shouting negative abuse. That is what we can't understand. Especially as Clarke isn't doing a bad job after all. We are supporters after all, we're supposed to support the club not act like negative idiots all the time like some do. Sorry - what point am I missing?
All I've said is that DC shouldn't be surprised that there is anger and frustration or that there are negative feelings expressed. I guess that most of the frustrated supporters are still going when they can.
Whether DC has done or is doing a good job is debatable (I appreciate that there may be other views than my own).
I agree about the plastering, the bus invasion and the more extreme abuse.
But if we're not allowed to comment/criticise, why bother having a Forum at all? As far as the joy of the supporting experience is concerned, what is being served up to us is deeply unsatisfactory, and we should be allowed to say so.
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 13, 2014 12:22:37 GMT
In the recently published book "Harold Jarman" reference was made of the Eastville "Boo Boys" who targeted Harold in his early career. I remember it well as Harold went missing during some games and was referred to as "Handbag". Now I do not know how Harold dealt with it or whether Bert Tann gave him advice, but many of us will remember how Harold beat 5 opponents at a home game before unleashing an unstoppable shot into the roof of the net which silenced the "Boo Boys" for good. He thrilled the Eastville crowd with these type of exploits for many years playing on both wings and scoring 144 goals. So we have history of unfairly attacking our Players.
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Post by smudge1 on Nov 13, 2014 12:28:24 GMT
We are fourth in the league lets all get behind the team. Plenty of time to up our game, we have no devine right to beat anyone whether it is Alfreton or Weston!!
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 13, 2014 12:28:28 GMT
I would have thought it's pretty obvious why a significant number of fans are expressing their frustration. We were in League 1 not so long ago. Now we're not even in the Football League. As a result, we're effectively paying the same amount to see a grossly inferior product. At this level, we're OK, but we're not exactly walking all over the opposition or playing attractive football. Are we supposed to be deliriously happy that we managed a draw this week against a team of part timers , and couldn't even score a goal? It's unlikely (but still possible, I accept) that we will win the league. IF we get to the play-offs we have a 25% chance of promotion. We have a manager who took us out of the League and has achieved nothing at this level. Who can be surprised that some fans wanted him out after one week of the season? Since then, he's done nothing to convince me that he will take us back up. And why is he bringing up now something that happened 3 months ago? People who try and invade team buses deserve what's coming to them, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for feeling angry and frustrated. Frankly, we deserve better than this. Utter, utter tosh. [br Disgusting post condoning the behaviour - So abusing the manager players and putting up posters and banging on doors is understandable and acceptable - begs the question were you involved ?
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Nov 13, 2014 12:31:58 GMT
I think it's wrong that criticism (justified in some cases) of the team/manager is being lumped in with idiot behaviour. They are two entirely separate things.
Posters at the training ground, trying to board the team coach etc is moronic behaviour and should be utterly condemned.
Giving honest thoughts on player performances, tactics & results is perfectly normal and differences of opinion should be tolerated & debated.
Darrell is doing a good job and has built an honest, hard-working team. But surely he realises that strikers who don't score are going to attract criticism?
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Post by cookinongas on Nov 13, 2014 12:35:56 GMT
I sense it is time for the majority to step up and drown out the idiots
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Post by wreckless on Nov 13, 2014 12:40:01 GMT
In the recently published book "Harold Jarman" reference was made of the Eastville "Boo Boys" who targeted Harold in his early career. I remember it well as Harold went missing during some games and was referred to as "Handbag". Now I do not know how Harold dealt with it or whether Bert Tann gave him advice, but many of us will remember how Harold beat 5 opponents at a home game before unleashing an unstoppable shot into the roof of the net which silenced the "Boo Boys" for good. He thrilled the Eastville crowd with these type of exploits for many years playing on both wings and scoring 144 goals. So we have history of unfairly attacking our Players. Not sure that we have a history of unfairness - if people "go missing", lack ambition, or exhibit skills unworthy of a professional footballer, they're going to be criticised Sometimes it may be a bit heavy-handed.
To be fair, I do believe that our current squad of players can't be criticised for not trying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:40:06 GMT
Its very understandable that fans are angry after two relegations, mounds of debt and mismanagement for a decade or more.
But...
Its not the players fault. If someone shows the loyalty to go all the way to Alfreton why not just enjoy yourself and have a good time. Support the boys and seperate the anger you feel about our plight with the guys giving their all on the pitch.
Now the only issue we have this season is up top but its clear a striker struggling for confidence will not perform better when you abuse the sh** out of them.
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Post by lulworthgas on Nov 13, 2014 12:41:19 GMT
What a load of old tripe. If the players are trawling the net and finding that fans are moaning about them then that's there problem. The net is full of trolls and people attention seeking, looking for a rise. Maybe they should judge the majority of fans views on the reception that they recieve on match day which in my opinion, is still very positive. I don't think we as fans can show loyalty to the team anymore than we have been of late. Travelling in numbers and generating great atmospheres, even when the entertainment has been poor. First home game for a month on Saturday. They should be concentrating on that and not going down the buckle route of tarring all fans with the same brush.
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Post by baggins on Nov 13, 2014 12:41:42 GMT
I sense it is time for the majority to step up and drown out the idiots That will always happen. Give it time, they'll sod off.
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Post by wreckless on Nov 13, 2014 12:43:29 GMT
[br Disgusting post condoning the behaviour - So abusing the manager players and putting up posters and banging on doors is understandable and acceptable - begs the question were you involved ? Can't you read?
Nowhere is there anything in what I have said that condones the behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:43:53 GMT
It's funny, when I was young I remember enjoying hearing tales of City's support embarassing themselves and the club. Course I knew Rovers fans were no angels but there was something in thinking that no matter how much higher further 'the gap' got between the two clubs, we'd maintain getting behind the lads and backing the club.
For the last few years, our support has been an embarassment to the club - I don't care how we bad we get. It's been something every other week this season and we should be better. It's not even as if the home support has been support at all. Yeah, half decent numbers but rarely getting behind the team.
Yeah, the club needs to be better. The players need to play better, Darrell has to manage better and the board have to run it better, but no-one should think we are perfect, we're far from it and we need to be better too.
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