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Post by Keynsham Rover on Sept 23, 2020 15:01:47 GMT
Colkett now playing in Sweden for Ostersund on a 3.5 year contract who are 9th in the Allsvenkans League out of 16 teams many of which are part time. Perhaps DC saw something that all those academy coaches at Chelsea didn't, it will be interesting to see how McCormack works out. Swedish league is probably on par with bottom half Championship/Upper end League 1 standard. Not a bad level at all tbh.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 23, 2020 15:13:35 GMT
I'm not convinced that possession football is the way forward at this level. In L1 the concept of retaining the ball is almost fanciful. Players at this level are error prone and providing a team can defend resolutely they will eventually profit from the inevitable mistakes of the opposition. In short, let the opposition give the bal to you (as they wil) and counter quickly.
Attractive football? No. Effective in L1? Yes.
Perhaps we might adopt this strategy? In fact we did under GC.
Discuss.
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Post by cj on Sept 23, 2020 15:25:28 GMT
So we have all had a day or so to look at YT vids and stats of Luke, my questions are: 1) Will he start on Saturday? 2) If he does, what do you want the formation to look like? For me... 1) heart says yes but head says no as its probably too soon for him to be up to speed with our 'system' 2) - go all out attack using the 3 4 3 - Having Ayunga start means that when we panic smash the ball at least we have a target man and 2 hungry number 10's to feed off him. Also using Leahy and Hare to whip in crosses would also benefit Ayunga. I have given Little a shout at RCB as I believe his experience may be important if we are going to go balls deep this game. I may regret not having Kilgour's tacking/heading ability though i guess. Anssi Little Ehmer Harries Hare Westbrooke McCormick Leahy Hanlan Ayunga JML Let hear your thoughts...
For me, give McCormick a week to settle. I would start with...
_____________ Jaakkola ____________
______ Little __ Kilgour __ Ehmer______ Hare __ Westbrooke _ Grant __ Tutonda _______________ JML ______________
_________ Hanlan __ Ayunga ________
Subs: JVS, Leahy, Harries, Upson, Hargreaves, Nicholson, Daly
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Post by socrates on Sept 23, 2020 15:42:11 GMT
We've got a few experienced midfielders - Upson, Rodman etc. From Saturday, what I thought we needed was a bit of energy in the middle, someone who could carry the ball and break the lines. Hargreaves is that player, Was ridiculous playing three slow players all similar together in midfield. If we play 3 centre mids then we need a ball winner , a box to box runner and a playmaker so that we’ve got balance. I’m scratching my head that Garner can’t even get the basics right.
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Post by socrates on Sept 23, 2020 15:43:53 GMT
People calling for ogogo back must be watching a different game to me? We’ve created 3/4 chances over 3 games we need creativity in midfield not another defensive midfielder with limited passing ability. You can have all the bite in midfield you want but if they don’t create chances then what’s the point. ogogo is not the answer at all But you need someone to break up the play otherwise we just keep getting attacked. We have faced the most shots on target (14) which shows we are being carved open like a knife through butter. Ogogo isn't creative himself but it's about the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. Yeah you need balance , to say we don’t need a ball winner because we’re not creating anything is crazy talk. If we had someone winning the ball then the more creative players would get chance to create
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Post by richard on Sept 23, 2020 16:15:42 GMT
So we have all had a day or so to look at YT vids and stats of Luke, my questions are: 1) Will he start on Saturday? 2) If he does, what do you want the formation to look like? For me... 1) heart says yes but head says no as its probably too soon for him to be up to speed with our 'system' 2) - go all out attack using the 3 4 3 - Having Ayunga start means that when we panic smash the ball at least we have a target man and 2 hungry number 10's to feed off him. Also using Leahy and Hare to whip in crosses would also benefit Ayunga. I have given Little a shout at RCB as I believe his experience may be important if we are going to go balls deep this game. I may regret not having Kilgour's tacking/heading ability though i guess. Anssi Little Ehmer Harries Hare Westbrooke McCormick Leahy Hanlan Ayunga JML Let hear your thoughts...
For me, give McCormick a week to settle. I would start with...
_____________ Jaakkola ____________
______ Little __ Kilgour __ Ehmer______ Hare __ Westbrooke _ Grant __ Tutonda _______________ JML ______________
_________ Hanlan __ Ayunga ________
Subs: JVS, Leahy, Harries, Upson, Hargreaves, Nicholson, Daly
I'd agree with that except i'd play Harries over Kilgour at the moment (with Ehmer in middle).
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 23, 2020 16:37:02 GMT
Asked for a sign if Hargreaves should play Sat and these birds swooped down and the tune is Irene Goodnight!!!!!!!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 23, 2020 16:53:55 GMT
So we have all had a day or so to look at YT vids and stats of Luke, my questions are: 1) Will he start on Saturday? 2) If he does, what do you want the formation to look like? For me... 1) heart says yes but head says no as its probably too soon for him to be up to speed with our 'system' 2) - go all out attack using the 3 4 3 - Having Ayunga start means that when we panic smash the ball at least we have a target man and 2 hungry number 10's to feed off him. Also using Leahy and Hare to whip in crosses would also benefit Ayunga. I have given Little a shout at RCB as I believe his experience may be important if we are going to go balls deep this game. I may regret not having Kilgour's tacking/heading ability though i guess. Anssi Little Ehmer Harries Hare Westbrooke McCormick Leahy Hanlan Ayunga JML Let hear your thoughts...
For me, give McCormick a week to settle. I would start with...
_____________ Jaakkola ____________
______ Little __ Kilgour __ Ehmer______ Hare __ Westbrooke _ Grant __ Tutonda _______________ JML ______________
_________ Hanlan __ Ayunga ________
Subs: JVS, Leahy, Harries, Upson, Hargreaves, Nicholson, Daly
Apart from the fortunate pen at Sunderland JML has done little in my view, why not put McCormick or Hargreraves in the attacking CM role? I'd stick with same back 5 apart from Tutonda for Leahy as having two attacking WB's maybe a step too far, plus Kilgour at least gets stuck in.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 23, 2020 17:59:22 GMT
Playmakers don't tend to play in the attacking 3. They tend to play further back, where they can move the ball around the pitch. A lot of Coventry fans said he was a playmaker and that passing was his main strength, which seemed to be backed up when last season's stats. A playmaker needs options though. This formation does not suit him, as a lot of the time the middle 2 are isolated. Early days when us, so hard to say what his role will be. I agree he is not suited to playing in the front 3 though. From memory described as "box-to-box" and a number 8 in the gascast scouting report from the Coventry fan who runs the 'empty seats' site. gaschat.co.uk/thread/16545/scout-report-westbrooke-empty-seatsThat's one fan. A lot of other fans said he plays lots of good passes. He was 2nd in league for the amount of passes played and received per game last season. He also scored one of the highest on shot assists and 3rd assists for goals. Those stats suggest he likes to get on the ball, move it around and bring others into the game.
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Post by pirate on Sept 23, 2020 21:25:48 GMT
That's one fan. A lot of other fans said he plays lots of good passes. He was 2nd in league for the amount of passes played and received per game last season. He also scored one of the highest on shot assists and 3rd assists for goals. Those stats suggest he likes to get on the ball, move it around and bring others into the game. Maybe he does, as a no 8. Interestingly when Coventry had both Callum O'Hare and Liam Walsh available towards the end of the season, he found himself on the bench.
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Post by youln on Sept 23, 2020 21:38:34 GMT
I assume we've given up on Barrett then? Hoped we would see Mehew and Hargreaves continue to get opportunities myself, but Chelsea's youth players must be more important. I'm wondering too what's going to become Barrett.
What s the last time he played in league one ?
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 23, 2020 23:19:47 GMT
That's one fan. A lot of other fans said he plays lots of good passes. He was 2nd in league for the amount of passes played and received per game last season. He also scored one of the highest on shot assists and 3rd assists for goals. Those stats suggest he likes to get on the ball, move it around and bring others into the game. Maybe he does, as a no 8. Interestingly when Coventry had both Callum O'Hare and Liam Walsh available towards the end of the season, he found himself on the bench. Think most player's in this league would be behind those two. He's still young and can still improve.
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Post by gaelgas on Sept 24, 2020 7:36:58 GMT
I assume we've given up on Barrett then? Hoped we would see Mehew and Hargreaves continue to get opportunities myself, but Chelsea's youth players must be more important. I'm wondering too what's going to become Barrett.
What s the last time he played in league one ?
Thought he'd done a hammy in preseason?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 24, 2020 7:41:32 GMT
I'm wondering too what's going to become Barrett.
What s the last time he played in league one ?
Thought he'd done a hammy in preseason? Yeah last update from Frosty is that he is back in training with the U23s after doing his hammy against Bristol Manor Farm
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Post by cj on Sept 24, 2020 12:05:01 GMT
For me, give McCormick a week to settle. I would start with...
_____________ Jaakkola ____________
______ Little __ Kilgour __ Ehmer______ Hare __ Westbrooke _ Grant __ Tutonda _______________ JML ______________
_________ Hanlan __ Ayunga ________
Subs: JVS, Leahy, Harries, Upson, Hargreaves, Nicholson, Daly
Apart from the fortunate pen at Sunderland JML has done little in my view, why not put McCormick or Hargreraves in the attacking CM role? I'd stick with same back 5 apart from Tutonda for Leahy as having two attacking WB's maybe a step too far, plus Kilgour at least gets stuck in. Without seeing McCormick, I think it would be best to let him sit out a game or 2 and get working on the training pitch to fit in with BG's style. I am 100% certain that BG wil have him in the matchday squad though but I just think a tad too soon.
I was umming and arring with Hargreaves instead of JML. I went with JML purely down to being able to change the formation from what I put above (to 343 pushing JML in the front 3 or could even go 442 with Little/Tutonda being full backs and Hare/JML as wingers) when we want during the game without the need to use subs. I feel there is more flexibility with JML to change when we want or need. But If we are determined to stick with the same formation then Hargreaves would be better as he will get back and help the midfield and get forward to support.
I really like the look of Tutonda so far so I added him based on the hope that he gets better as he plays more. I personally don't have issues with Leahy but I just want to see more of Tutonda.
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Post by cj on Sept 24, 2020 12:08:42 GMT
For me, give McCormick a week to settle. I would start with...
_____________ Jaakkola ____________
______ Little __ Kilgour __ Ehmer______ Hare __ Westbrooke _ Grant __ Tutonda _______________ JML ______________
_________ Hanlan __ Ayunga ________
Subs: JVS, Leahy, Harries, Upson, Hargreaves, Nicholson, Daly
I'd agree with that except i'd play Harries over Kilgour at the moment (with Ehmer in middle). Aint it great though to have options at last!
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 24, 2020 15:53:40 GMT
I'd agree with that except i'd play Harries over Kilgour at the moment (with Ehmer in middle). Aint it great though to have options at last! It depends what those options are. As a club we always had options. A lot of our kids made their debuts under GC, including Kilgour
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 13, 2020 7:21:58 GMT
Does anyone else forget that McCormick is a loanee? He seems to absolutely love the Gas... he is pretty much the first one to jump on a goal scorer and looks like he just loves playing for us (Good lad)
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 13, 2020 9:09:57 GMT
Does anyone else forget that McCormick is a loanee? He seems to absolutely love the Gas... he is pretty much the first one to jump on a goal scorer and looks like he just loves playing for us (Good lad) Looks like he is enjoying playing league football as opposed to playing with the U23's. Could be the sort of player who would also thrive playing in front of a real crowd.
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Post by Fetch on Oct 13, 2020 9:13:22 GMT
Does anyone else forget that McCormick is a loanee? He seems to absolutely love the Gas... he is pretty much the first one to jump on a goal scorer and looks like he just loves playing for us (Good lad) He's been impressive so far and his energy and quality have stood out. Technically he has a great shot on him and I think if he keeps getting in similar positions to the Lincoln he will get 5-10 goals this season. Another example of waiting to see how a player performs before writing it off as a bad signing due to age/lack of experience. He looks a great character to have in the dressing room.
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