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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 24, 2020 17:15:01 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference.
Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there?
With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play.
It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress.
I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is?
In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time?
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Post by Marshy on Oct 24, 2020 17:27:29 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? We have lots of young very promising players, for me finish in the top 10 this year and then push on ready for a real serious challenge the year after. If it’s there mind, we take it! 🍾 As for Wycombe cheating scum who got lucky last year and now they are paying the price :he he: I said on another thread before the season started that Wycombe wouldn’t get 20 points this season, and that’s looking good! It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. 😁
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 24, 2020 17:46:16 GMT
Even if Wycombe get no points this season, if they use their championship money wisely they could be challenging at the top of League 1 for years. That would have to be considered a result for them, or us.
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Post by Russgas on Oct 24, 2020 17:49:44 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? We have lots of young very promising players, for me finish in the top 10 this year and then push on ready for a real serious challenge the year after. If it’s there mind, we take it! 🍾 As for Wycombe cheating scum who got lucky last year and now they are paying the price :he he: I said on another thread before the season started that Wycombe wouldn’t get 20 points this season, and that’s looking good! It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. 😁 Tbh marshy i can see them even struggling to get into double figures. The gap between the champ and lg1 is massive.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 24, 2020 17:50:07 GMT
Years ago a small team could go into Div2 or the championship and survive, sometimes quite comfortably.
That is no longer the case.
When you have teams spending 20k per week on wages, sometimes more, with big all seater stadia, then the best you can hope for, for someone like Wycombe, Burton or Yeovil is to survive for 2-3 seasons to give you a chance to build.
I would say the only club to have bucked the trend in the championship would be Brentford who have grown year on year, mainly through shrewd signings and a conveyor belt of home grown talent.
I think if we got to the championship now, we would struggle. Once our training ground is complete, including putting the youth team in, we could be a Brentford. We are comparably similar in terms of size.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 24, 2020 17:54:51 GMT
We have lots of young very promising players, for me finish in the top 10 this year and then push on ready for a real serious challenge the year after. If it’s there mind, we take it! 🍾 As for Wycombe cheating scum who got lucky last year and now they are paying the price :he he: I said on another thread before the season started that Wycombe wouldn’t get 20 points this season, and that’s looking good! It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. 😁 Tbh marshy i can see them even struggling to get into double figures. The gap between the champ and lg1 is massive. Good, Dam cheating cants!
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Post by matealotblue on Oct 24, 2020 17:57:19 GMT
Tbh marshy i can see them even struggling to get into double figures. The gap between the champ and lg1 is massive. Good, f**king cheating cants! I hate it when people sit on the fence with their opinions.....🤪
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Post by Marshy on Oct 24, 2020 18:01:08 GMT
Good, f**king cheating cants! I hate it when people sit on the fence with their opinions.....🤪 Sorry about that, I never could make a decision. The 2 biggest things that rile me are - 1) Sh1!heads 2) Wycombe. Ooh sorry there’s a 3rd - running out of Stella, actually that’s probably number 1.
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 24, 2020 18:04:41 GMT
Even if Wycombe get no points this season, if they use their championship money wisely they could be challenging at the top of League 1 for years. That would have to be considered a result for them, or us. AKA the Peterborough effect!
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 24, 2020 18:09:53 GMT
Until we move away from the mem or redevelop it we won't be 'ready' for championship football.
Saying that I'd take promotion this season. Even if we did a Wycombe and got beat most weeks I'd take it for new away days, Bristol derbies and seeing the big teams rocking up to the Mem.
As mentioned earlier. If managed right it could set us up to challenge at the top of league one when we come back down.
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Post by barumgas on Oct 24, 2020 18:15:08 GMT
So if we had gone up with GC's squad would we be doing better than 'scum? I doubt it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 18:18:25 GMT
So if we had gone up with GC's squad would we be doing better than 'scum? I doubt it Which “scum” doth one refer? In all seriousness we are miles away from the championship. Think Sputnik from launch site. Have fun discussing it though.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Oct 24, 2020 18:24:11 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? The best quote I've seen about Wycombe is comparing them to an elephant in a tree, nobody knows how it got there, but its sure to come crashing down at some point. Seriously though I firmly believe we have a plan drawn up somewhere detailing what is expected year on year with a view to a stadium and a long term goal of championship, maybe within 5-7 years, thats not to say we will be there, its just a plan, it may come sooner (God help us) it may not happen at all
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Post by francegas on Oct 24, 2020 18:44:30 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? Rotherham were relegated in 2016/17 on 23 points. Not sure if that's the lowest but must be one of the lowest points achieved.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 24, 2020 18:56:46 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? Rotherham were relegated in 2016/17 on 23 points. Not sure if that's the lowest but must be one of the lowest points achieved. I remember in the early 80’s the year the we had to finish the season at trashton because some lady gardens burnt our stand down. We finished bottom of the then championship and the sh** finished 2nd bottom and obviously we both went down! Did we even have 23 points between us? 😂 I remember the gas crowds at trashton averaged around 1500, not surprising really, the place reeked of sh**.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 19:01:14 GMT
The football league is very much a reflection of modern society at the moment. It can’t be ignored that there are parallels in terms of declining social mobility amongst the population and an ever increasing wealth gap in the football league and it’s most evident between league one and the championship. Without wanting to turn this into a political thread it’s simply the inevitable outcome when free market capitalism runs rampant and the money does not trickle down effectively. Those with the wealth will use their spending power to cemente their position and that is what is happening. How long before the football league becomes a close shop from the championship up to try and keep our teams that dilute the quality of it’s product (ie Wycombe). I’m sure the chairman of the championship have got their fingers crossed season after season that Sunderland make a comeback, failing that, Hull, Ipswich or Portsmouth at a push. The last thing they want is Fleetwood or Accrington blagging a promotion.
The playing field is as uneven as it’s ever been.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 24, 2020 19:12:38 GMT
Looking at the Championship this season, Wycombe have now lost their opening 7 and have a -13 goal difference. Is the gap between league 1 and the championship the hardest to overcome and how do we feel about our chances should we manage to get there? With the wages now needed to compete we would need to see increased revenue via a new stadium, or be focused on developing a squad that have been together and know a designated system of play. It seems to me that the way forward is slowly concentrate on the infrastructure of the club and it’s academy and this I feel is the right way to progress. I’d love to see us in the Championship but am happy to be better prepared rather than being humiliated every week. I can see Wycombe having the lowest point return ever this season, any statto know what that tally is? In summary, would we be better placed in say 2/3 seasons than going up before ready? Or is it take promotion any time? Rotherham were relegated in 2016/17 on 23 points. Not sure if that's the lowest but must be one of the lowest points achieved. Back in the day, when there were only two leagues, Loughborough and Doncaster both got 8 points. That will probably never be beaten. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899%E2%80%931900_in_English_footballen.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904%E2%80%9305_in_English_football
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 24, 2020 19:18:27 GMT
Luton sitting in 9th proves that a smallish club can survive in the Championship, it's not long ago that they were in L2. As far as Wycombe I can't understand how they are hoping to survive with basically last year's squad, if weever go up then hopefully we'd sign a few Championship quality players as Coventry did this summer.
Unless we fluke it like Wycombe we're probably 3 years plus away from mounting a promotion push, by then hopefully we'll have a new stadium at least in the pipeline.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 19:34:01 GMT
Luton sitting in 9th proves that a smallish club can survive in the Championship, it's not long ago that they were in L2. As far as Wycombe I can't understand how they are hoping to survive with basically last year's squad, if weever go up then hopefully we'd sign a few Championship quality players as Coventry did this summer. Unless we fluke it like Wycombe we're probably 3 years plus away from mounting a promotion push, by then hopefully we'll have a new stadium at least in the pipeline. There’s a bit of a disparity between Coventry and Luton and Wycombe, Wycombe are probably better compared with Yeovil than the former.
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Post by aforce on Oct 24, 2020 19:49:28 GMT
Yea sheff Utd have found the gap too big between L1 and champ
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