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Post by gregsy on Oct 25, 2020 9:41:07 GMT
Although Wycombe have played 7 lost 7, they are still only 4 points from safety with 39 games to go....
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Post by Marshy on Oct 25, 2020 9:57:21 GMT
Although Wycombe have played 7 lost 7, they are still only 4 points from safety with 39 games to go.... The way they are going, they will be lucky to get 4 points.
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Post by alanrg on Oct 25, 2020 10:40:23 GMT
The lowest points in the Championship fell 2 Rotherham in the 2016-17 season 23 points
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Post by ineedgas on Oct 25, 2020 11:21:40 GMT
Yea sheff Utd have found the gap too big between L1 and champ Sheffield United are a massive club, they averaged 20,000 in League One and had top 10 Championship average attendances. Easier to compete in the Championship when you have a good sized wage budget for that division to start off with. Massive club where have I heard that before 🤔
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 25, 2020 12:29:15 GMT
Even if Wycombe get no points this season, if they use their championship money wisely they could be challenging at the top of League 1 for years. That would have to be considered a result for them, or us. Never gunna happen and I reckon they'll drop straight through league one and into league two No real evidence that will happen, they've still kept the likes of Jacobson so if they do get relegated they have the core of last season's squad. Plus £5m more TV money than us and they could sell a few players who do impress in the Championship. Rotherham have somehow mastered bouncing between the Championship and L1 and they are hardly a massive club.
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Post by yaz on Oct 25, 2020 12:30:54 GMT
Luton sitting in 9th proves that a smallish club can survive in the Championship, it's not long ago that they were in L2. As far as Wycombe I can't understand how they are hoping to survive with basically last year's squad, if weever go up then hopefully we'd sign a few Championship quality players as Coventry did this summer. Unless we fluke it like Wycombe we're probably 3 years plus away from mounting a promotion push, by then hopefully we'll have a new stadium at least in the pipeline. They were in the National League for a long time before they even got back to League 2 and are still housed in a rickety old stadium that backs on to a narrow Victorian back alley reeking of urine, but a new stadium in the pipeline keeps the dream alive. We should be grateful to our Irish saviour for buggering off to Mansfield when he did because ours isn't even in the trench yet let alone the pipeline. Having said that, Westbrooke did say our aim was promotion this season in an interview early on. Yes, true. My understanding was that the new ground has been approved. It is not a nice ground; the away “bar” is 6 ft underground? They have struggled for some time but are poised, like Millwall, Blackburn and others from L1, to really try and make the playoffs in the Championship? Both clubs were in the top tier for some time, Luton for longer, when players like Brian Stein, etc used to play for them. Size (of the ground) does not matter? After all, the “c.ocks” went back last night!! I would prefer the Mem and Filton to Bury Park any day. The Mem is fairly close to the main travel infrastructure, just like Luton’s ground. Most clubs in the Championship have probably played in the top league bar Wycombe and Rotherham? Even Barnsley have played there? Rovers have a big gulf and history to overcome. History also tells us that clubs may yo yo between 2 divisions for a while until they stabilise and then go up or down. Blackburn, Millwall, Luton (Wigan deflated by finances) are at that stage now where they are in a position to try for higher? It’s a Long Walk To The Promised Land for us but at least we now have a map and a kind of path to follow? Up The Road UTG
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Oct 25, 2020 12:52:53 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then?
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Post by Gashead73 on Oct 25, 2020 13:14:06 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then? Twerton Park is not even upto the same standard as the Mem. This is what I don't understand about SOME of our supporters when they slag off the Mem! The Mem was and is far superior to Twerton' and as much as I'd love a shiny new home ground' the Mem will do me fine for now. Oh for those 10 years at Azteca Twerton 😉
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Post by Congas on Oct 25, 2020 13:54:36 GMT
The first thing you see during TV coverage are bog standard WCs arm in arm with pasty stalls lining the top of the terraces with what looks like the royal marquee used at jousting tournaments stuck at the end. As for the "away enclosure", embarrassment is too weak a word. But I'll put up with that as long as they don't revert back to a camera opposite the "cricket pavilion" that only stretches along a part of the pitch, the reason being: 1. No money left after paying the floodlight bill. 2. They needed somewhere to stick the lawnmowers. 3. The "architect" got the measurements wrong. 4. We're only a small ragbag family club so who gives two hoots
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 25, 2020 18:13:14 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then? Assuming it was after the South Stand fire we moved to AG that was due to an electrical fault, so their were no real tensions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then? Assuming it was after the South Stand fire we moved to AG that was due to an electrical fault, so their were no real tensions. Ah! Nothing to do with the Bedminster Pyromanic Society then?
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Post by oldgas on Oct 25, 2020 19:01:47 GMT
Assuming it was after the South Stand fire we moved to AG that was due to an electrical fault, so their were no real tensions. Ah! Nothing to do with the Bedminster Pyromanic Society then? I believe they were responsible for burning down the stand at Twerton after we beat them to the league title. The 3 heroes involved were stopped by the Police as they were returning to Knowle West and the officers were surprised to find them stinking of petrol and with empty cans in the boot. I believe substantial prison sentences resulted.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 25, 2020 19:05:28 GMT
Years ago a small team could go into Div2 or the championship and survive, sometimes quite comfortably. That is no longer the case. When you have teams spending 20k per week on wages, sometimes more, with big all seater stadia, then the best you can hope for, for someone like Wycombe, Burton or Yeovil is to survive for 2-3 seasons to give you a chance to build. I would say the only club to have bucked the trend in the championship would be Brentford who have grown year on year, mainly through shrewd signings and a conveyor belt of home grown talent. I think if we got to the championship now, we would struggle. Once our training ground is complete, including putting the youth team in, we could be a Brentford. We are comparably similar in terms of size. it wasn’t home grown talent? They got rid of there Acadamy, and replaced it with sh** a sh** hot scouting system. They obviously made the right decision 👍🏽
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Post by madgas on Oct 25, 2020 20:44:58 GMT
I dont think Wycombe illustrate the gap. Wycombe for me- were lucky to go up. Had the season continued as norm, i didnt think they would make the playoffs.
But Coventry- who mullered us several times last season being only 5 points better off or a derby county a feat. W Rooney being a single position better show the gap is big.
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 25, 2020 21:14:15 GMT
We all know it costs $50 million a year just to achieve fckall in the Championship
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Post by clockendgas on Oct 25, 2020 22:27:50 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then? Assuming it was after the South Stand fire we moved to AG that was due to an electrical fault, so their were no real tensions. i thought it was an inside insurance job? surely you should know that topper being itk.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 26, 2020 9:29:44 GMT
Assuming it was after the South Stand fire we moved to AG that was due to an electrical fault, so their were no real tensions. i thought it was an inside insurance job? surely you should know that topper being itk. Wasn’t the official explanation said to be rats chewing through cables? Rats wearing red shirts no doubt.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 26, 2020 9:57:50 GMT
Still think it's mental that we played at Ashton Gate then. Tensions must have been at an all time high after the fire? Was Twerton not considered up to standard then? Twerton Park is not even upto the same standard as the Mem. This is what I don't understand about SOME of our supporters when they slag off the Mem! The Mem was and is far superior to Twerton' and as much as I'd love a shiny new home ground' the Mem will do me fine for now. Oh for those 10 years at Azteca Twerton 😉 With all due respect, Twerton Park hasn't been a Football League ground for 24 years. The Mem is utterly appalling and is a millstone round our neck.
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