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Post by justin blue on Oct 28, 2020 10:46:30 GMT
Really can’t muster much sympathy as what he did to us was unforgivable in my view. Not so much leaving on a high. That would be understandable, but to leave for a club struggling a league below was a slap in the face. What comes around goes around.
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Post by pirate on Oct 28, 2020 10:49:52 GMT
Nigel Clough favourite to replace him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 10:54:03 GMT
All very worthy and thought-provoking sentiments - until you consider that Coughlan had worked away from home for years and years without complaint. In fact, Southend and Plymouth are much further away from Sheffield so he was, actually, in the more favoured spot geographically when with us. He always said he was worried about never having a managers gig. He got ours, and I remember him saying on the radio how he fought to get the job and would fight tooth and nail to get it permanently. So he wasn’t worried about being away from home then, and the only reason he left was for more money, pure and simple. In the process he sh** all over us and lied through his Irish teeth. I don’t know about you, but I have heard of people moving their family to where they work. Shock horror. So no, I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for him. He made his bed, he’s now got plenty of time to lie in it. As for compensation, I hope it was written into his contract that if he comprehensively failed he would be dismissed without compo Why on earth should anyone be able to completely f uck their employers business over then walk away with a huge severance payment. Hahaha and you say I’m nasty and spiteful? 😂
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 28, 2020 10:55:52 GMT
It's a nice bit of schadenfreude, but he still has a very good CV, so will pick up a decent job somewhere. His stint with us was a perfect stop gap for both him & rovers. The fantasists still think we'd be cruising to the prem if he never left us! I dont think he will. The record states he had 2 good half seasons, was disloyal and then completely failed at his new assignment and was sacked after no wins in 8 and 1 win in 12 being thumped by a team at home that came up from the conference the season before, who had changed their manager in the close season and hadn't won themselves before that game. I dont think his stock could be any lower. The best he could hope for is a job in the conference at a relatively big club there like Chesterfield, Wrexham or Hartlepool and get them back into the league. Yeovil will be looking for a gaffer soon given their poor start, but it might be a bit far away from a home made cottage pie for him to consider it.
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Post by justin blue on Oct 28, 2020 10:57:16 GMT
Nigel Clough favourite to replace him. I hope they get Lee Johnson. They deserve each other.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 10:57:53 GMT
Speaking as someone that works away from home for several weeks at a time, I find it surprising how many people don't even entertain the idea of imagining what that might be like for someone. GC said previously before he left that he found it difficult, the pressures of management coupled with being away from his wife and kids. I can sympathise with that. Some people can handle it, some can't. Some people have families back at home that can handle it, while others get grief from their family for not being there for them. Perhaps his situation at home became untenable? Did GC make mistakes in his post match comments after Ipswich? Yes and I wonder if he might look back on that with regret. Did he leave at an unfortunate time? Perhaps, but even then I'd actually argue that he left the club in a far higher position than when he arrived, so he hardly left us in the lurch, despite his football being dour. Essentially what I'm saying is there's a phrase of don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Those of you who mock him about being able to enjoy home cooking etc now that he's been sacked, I doubt have ever had to work in a high pressure job as well as having the pressures of not being there for your family for weeks on end. It does take it's toll on some people, and there's no shame in that. I’m sure there’s a fair grain of truth in that, but what gets me is that the finishing line was already in sight. How would the issues of working away have affected you if you knew there was only 5 months at most left to do the job? Plus, at the end of that 5 months you could have had a success story that takes you into the next tier of opportunities and earning potential. I’ll hold my hands up that I don’t know the pressures of that situation, but is it unreasonable to think that just 5 months more commitment was that difficult?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 11:01:20 GMT
It's a nice bit of schadenfreude, but he still has a very good CV, so will pick up a decent job somewhere. His stint with us was a perfect stop gap for both him & rovers. The fantasists still think we'd be cruising to the prem if he never left us! I dont think he will. The record states he had 2 good half seasons, was disloyal and then completely failed at his new assignment and was sacked after no wins in 8 and 1 win in 12 being thumped by a team at home that came up from the conference the season before, who had changed their manager in the close season and hadn't won themselves before that game. I dont think his stock could be any lower. The best he could hope for is a job in the conference at a relatively big club there like Chesterfield, Wrexham or Hartlepool and get them back into the league. Yeovil will be looking for a gaffer soon given their poor start, but it might be a bit far away from a home made cottage pie for him to consider it. Look at DC, two promotions to his name and he didn’t exactly walk into a new job. I think Coughlan is something of a busted flush now. He will re-appear as a defence coach in league one or two and if he is lucky get a chance to play manager again if the present manager is sacked and they need a firefighter until the end of the season.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 28, 2020 11:04:40 GMT
Nigel Clough favourite to replace him. I hope they get Lee Johnson. They deserve each other. I can see Lee Johnson going to Oxford. Especially with Roadman's connections.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 28, 2020 11:26:50 GMT
Speaking as someone that works away from home for several weeks at a time, I find it surprising how many people don't even entertain the idea of imagining what that might be like for someone. GC said previously before he left that he found it difficult, the pressures of management coupled with being away from his wife and kids. I can sympathise with that. Some people can handle it, some can't. Some people have families back at home that can handle it, while others get grief from their family for not being there for them. Perhaps his situation at home became untenable? Did GC make mistakes in his post match comments after Ipswich? Yes and I wonder if he might look back on that with regret. Did he leave at an unfortunate time? Perhaps, but even then I'd actually argue that he left the club in a far higher position than when he arrived, so he hardly left us in the lurch, despite his football being dour. Essentially what I'm saying is there's a phrase of don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Those of you who mock him about being able to enjoy home cooking etc now that he's been sacked, I doubt have ever had to work in a high pressure job as well as having the pressures of not being there for your family for weeks on end. It does take it's toll on some people, and there's no shame in that. I’m sure there’s a fair grain of truth in that, but what gets me is that the finishing line was already in sight. How would the issues of working away have affected you if you knew there was only 5 months at most left to do the job? Plus, at the end of that 5 months you could have had a success story that takes you into the next tier of opportunities and earning potential. I’ll hold my hands up that I don’t know the pressures of that situation, but is it unreasonable to think that just 5 months more commitment was that difficult? Perhaps he could have stayed another 5 months, but when your kids are young, 5 months is a long time. Plus, would the same Gasheads berating him for leaving in December, have been thanking him for staying another 5 months and then leaving anyway?
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Post by justin blue on Oct 28, 2020 11:27:57 GMT
I hope they get Lee Johnson. They deserve each other. I can see Lee Johnson going to Oxford. Especially with Roadman's connections. Imagine that Lickle Lee and the snake rocking up to the Mem on the same day. Can't wait.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 11:31:42 GMT
I’m sure there’s a fair grain of truth in that, but what gets me is that the finishing line was already in sight. How would the issues of working away have affected you if you knew there was only 5 months at most left to do the job? Plus, at the end of that 5 months you could have had a success story that takes you into the next tier of opportunities and earning potential. I’ll hold my hands up that I don’t know the pressures of that situation, but is it unreasonable to think that just 5 months more commitment was that difficult? Perhaps he could have stayed another 5 months, but when your kids are young, 5 months is a long time. Plus, would the same Gasheads berating him for leaving in December, have been thanking him for staying another 5 months and then leaving anyway? If he got us into the championship he’d be carried down Gloucester Road- you know the drill! I don’t think there would have been any issue personally, all it would have took was an explanation of his circumstances and then promotion or not I’m sure he would have had the good will of the fans because the end of the season allows for a proper transition. Walking out in the middle of a promotion challenge and especially in the way that he did is not how you do it and if you believe in karma I guess you could say that he paid the price for it in the end. His career as a manager looks to be over.
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Post by axegas on Oct 28, 2020 11:33:31 GMT
I hope they get Lee Johnson. They deserve each other. I can see Lee Johnson going to Oxford. Especially with Roadman's connections. I think Lee Johnson will fancy his chances at a championship club and if not a Sunderland or Ipswich type club at a minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 11:35:49 GMT
It's a nice bit of schadenfreude, but he still has a very good CV, so will pick up a decent job somewhere. His stint with us was a perfect stop gap for both him & rovers. The fantasists still think we'd be cruising to the prem if he never left us! I dont think he will. The record states he had 2 good half seasons, was disloyal and then completely failed at his new assignment and was sacked after no wins in 8 and 1 win in 12 being thumped by a team at home that came up from the conference the season before, who had changed their manager in the close season and hadn't won themselves before that game. I dont think his stock could be any lower. The best he could hope for is a job in the conference at a relatively big club there like Chesterfield, Wrexham or Hartlepool and get them back into the league. Yeovil will be looking for a gaffer soon given their poor start, but it might be a bit far away from a home made cottage pie for him to consider it. Ha. Yeah I was thinking more of a coaching job with a decent team, if anything he seemed very driven & determined and those types stand out in football. He'd be very fortunate to walk in to another head coach/managers role.
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Post by philbemmygas on Oct 28, 2020 12:14:01 GMT
I’m sure there’s a fair grain of truth in that, but what gets me is that the finishing line was already in sight. How would the issues of working away have affected you if you knew there was only 5 months at most left to do the job? Plus, at the end of that 5 months you could have had a success story that takes you into the next tier of opportunities and earning potential. I’ll hold my hands up that I don’t know the pressures of that situation, but is it unreasonable to think that just 5 months more commitment was that difficult? Perhaps he could have stayed another 5 months, but when your kids are young, 5 months is a long time. Plus, would the same Gasheads berating him for leaving in December, have been thanking him for staying another 5 months and then leaving anyway? If he had got us promoted, which was unlikely in my opinion then most Gas heads would have applauded him for his efforts. I spent massive periods of time away from home when my kids were growing up, an added complication to that was they were in a married quarter in Germany hundreds of miles from family. I was in a job that was both dangerous and stressful at times. So in a nutshell I have very little sympathy for the bloke, he deserved thanks for keeping us up but as for the way he left the club. Such is life UTG
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Post by tanneddan on Oct 28, 2020 12:19:15 GMT
Oh well just in time for Panto season auditions.... An iIrish Genie in Aladdins Lamp “ Wat Tree washes can Oi grent yous “ Well enjoy the school runs lad, way better than training with tripe like Mansfield ! Big shout outs to Ollie Clarke and Rollin .... Oooops! Racist
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Post by oldgas on Oct 28, 2020 13:02:00 GMT
All very worthy and thought-provoking sentiments - until you consider that Coughlan had worked away from home for years and years without complaint. In fact, Southend and Plymouth are much further away from Sheffield so he was, actually, in the more favoured spot geographically when with us. He always said he was worried about never having a managers gig. He got ours, and I remember him saying on the radio how he fought to get the job and would fight tooth and nail to get it permanently. So he wasn’t worried about being away from home then, and the only reason he left was for more money, pure and simple. In the process he sh** all over us and lied through his Irish teeth. I don’t know about you, but I have heard of people moving their family to where they work. Shock horror. So no, I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for him. He made his bed, he’s now got plenty of time to lie in it. As for compensation, I hope it was written into his contract that if he comprehensively failed he would be dismissed without compo Why on earth should anyone be able to completely f uck their employers business over then walk away with a huge severance payment. Hahaha and you say I’m nasty and spiteful? 😂 Why don’t you Trot back to your little collective in Marxist corner.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 28, 2020 13:03:10 GMT
Oh well just in time for Panto season auditions.... An iIrish Genie in Aladdins Lamp “ Wat Tree washes can Oi grent yous “ Well enjoy the school runs lad, way better than training with tripe like Mansfield ! Big shout outs to Ollie Clarke and Rollin .... Oooops! Racist Pathetic comment.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 28, 2020 13:30:20 GMT
All very worthy and thought-provoking sentiments - until you consider that Coughlan had worked away from home for years and years without complaint. In fact, Southend and Plymouth are much further away from Sheffield so he was, actually, in the more favoured spot geographically when with us. He always said he was worried about never having a managers gig. He got ours, and I remember him saying on the radio how he fought to get the job and would fight tooth and nail to get it permanently. So he wasn’t worried about being away from home then, and the only reason he left was for more money, pure and simple. In the process he sh** all over us and lied through his Irish teeth. I don’t know about you, but I have heard of people moving their family to where they work. Shock horror. So no, I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for him. He made his bed, he’s now got plenty of time to lie in it. As for compensation, I hope it was written into his contract that if he comprehensively failed he would be dismissed without compo Why on earth should anyone be able to completely f uck their employers business over then walk away with a huge severance payment. You make it all sound so simple, and in reality it really isn't. I speak from experience that I have taken a job that I coveted, and found afterwards that the strain on my home life was just too much. I also speak from experience that I thought about going for a job away from Bristol, but moving my family would have been a non-starter. Some families are happy to move, some aren't. It's rarely a case of "others do it, simple". Then there's possible changes of circumstance. Maybe in his roles as a coach he was able to get home more often. Maybe he was able to talk to them more often as he had more free time. Maybe the added stress of being a manager tipped the balance. You simply don't know what goes on in someone else's life to just pass things off as "he took the money" as you have no idea of what money he'd have been offered by us and by Mansfield. Perhaps consider the bigger picture of someone else's personal life before getting so watered off about another person's choices. The circumstances of his leaving us point to the fact that he went for 30 pieces of silver. That’s fine in itself, if he felt he was worth more and someone was offering the money then go if that’s what you want. Just be open and honest about it. Let’s face it, most of us would jump ship to do the same job for a different employer for £100 a week more. However he tried to play the sympathy card to mask his true intentions. He had been tapped up in the week before Ipswich. He asked to be released and was told no. He makes his outburst after the Ipswich game knowing it would have maximum impact, saying he would consider his position over the weekend and hey presto, Mansfield sacked their manager on the Saturday and came back in for him. He went on the Monday and took Dunne with him. How many coincidences do you need to realise he’s a lying twat, he’d been planning all this for at least a week with Mansfield. Homesick my fat arse, at least we got compo for the twat.
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Post by LJG on Oct 28, 2020 13:36:01 GMT
This thread is classic Gaschat sewer stuff.
Twelve months ago the guy was a hero who Wael should've locked down with a three year contract and the "fake sheikh" was ruining our club for letting GC walk away.
Now the same people are delighting in a bloke losing his job and happy to dole out some anti-Irish racist sentiment.
Absolutely vintage.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 28, 2020 13:40:38 GMT
Speaking as someone that works away from home for several weeks at a time, I find it surprising how many people don't even entertain the idea of imagining what that might be like for someone. GC said previously before he left that he found it difficult, the pressures of management coupled with being away from his wife and kids. I can sympathise with that. Some people can handle it, some can't. Some people have families back at home that can handle it, while others get grief from their family for not being there for them. Perhaps his situation at home became untenable? Did GC make mistakes in his post match comments after Ipswich? Yes and I wonder if he might look back on that with regret. Did he leave at an unfortunate time? Perhaps, but even then I'd actually argue that he left the club in a far higher position than when he arrived, so he hardly left us in the lurch, despite his football being dour. Essentially what I'm saying is there's a phrase of don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Those of you who mock him about being able to enjoy home cooking etc now that he's been sacked, I doubt have ever had to work in a high pressure job as well as having the pressures of not being there for your family for weeks on end. It does take it's toll on some people, and there's no shame in that. Surely though that’s the nature of professional football. You know you’re going to move around the country. You either accept you’ve gotta move your wife & kids or you’ll be renting by yourself or stuck in a hotel . It’s
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