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Post by yaz on Nov 2, 2020 21:42:55 GMT
Did he weep coz there was no more football and he could not make any more saves? Or because he didn't like crosses. Leahy it (leave it) out?!!! Hare today, gone tomorrow? Crosses don’t mean noughts but goals! UTG
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 2, 2020 21:44:55 GMT
I think one of the main drivers for keeping schools open is so parents can go back to work and not have childcare problems. Regardless of necessity there is just as much chance, if not more, of my son catching covid at school as there is of him catching it at youth football. These youth football clubs and leagues are very well organised and strict measures are put in place. It’s a bit more than a kick about. Also remember some kids don’t have a back garden to have a kick around with a ball I guess you could say all exercise is unnecessary. At the end of day football is the last only thing that will get my son off playing play station. I guess we all have different perspectives. One is education one is a bit of fun. I'm not saying it doesn't teach kids values and other things and that it's not good for mental health etc. But come on - surely you're not saying football is as important as school? No of course Education is of upmost importance but even though not as important exercise and fitness are something children should be doing. I think with all the social media and PlayStation’s etc its hard to get kids to do any exercise. Football is the one thing my son likes doing other than the occasional bike ride.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 2, 2020 21:50:24 GMT
Or because he didn't like crosses. Leahy it (leave it) out?!!! Hare today, gone tomorrow? Crosses don’t mean noughts but goals! UTG Give us today our Daly bread.
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Post by yaz on Nov 2, 2020 21:55:36 GMT
Leahy it (leave it) out?!!! Hare today, gone tomorrow? Crosses don’t mean noughts but goals! UTG Give us today our Daly bread. I think I said Daly Dose when he scored again for us very early vs Hull?
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Post by yaz on Nov 2, 2020 22:02:02 GMT
Leahy it (leave it) out?!!! Hare today, gone tomorrow? Crosses don’t mean noughts but goals! UTG Give us today our Daly bread. Was it 5 loaves and 2 fishes for the feeding of the 5,000? If so, and we have around 5,000 season ticket holders?, maybe we should play a 5-2-3 formation in order to “feed” the support!!! Then miracles may happen? Up The Numbers UTG
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Post by yaz on Nov 2, 2020 22:04:22 GMT
Give us today our Daly bread. Was it 5 loaves and 2 fishes for the feeding of the 5,000? If so, and we have around 5,000 season ticket holders?, maybe we should play a 5-2-3 formation in order to “feed” the support!!! Then miracles may happen? Up The Numbers UTG 5 = Leahy Harries Baldwin Ehmer Hare 2= Westbrook Grant 3= Hanlan Daly Nicholson And Jakko can be our saviour Or replacements where needed above. UTG
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Post by Blackbeard on Nov 3, 2020 1:35:27 GMT
Been a while since you were at school I presume! It’s impossible to keep 4&5 year olds apart And for their mental health I think schools should stay open And for their physical and mental health so should organised sport Either that or you enforce a TOTAL lockdown and everyone knows where they are. We're comparing education with a kick around. Bit of a difference. Nothing stopping kids have a kick around in their garden? So where does the kid that lives on the eight floor of a high rise have his / her kickabout ? on the balcony I presume not everyone has a garden
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Post by RD on Nov 3, 2020 6:48:46 GMT
We're comparing education with a kick around. Bit of a difference. Nothing stopping kids have a kick around in their garden? So where does the kid that lives on the eight floor of a high rise have his / her kickabout ? on the balcony I presume not everyone has a garden Well no, obviously they don't. But for 4 weeks they'll have to cope won't they?
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Post by RD on Nov 3, 2020 6:50:57 GMT
One is education one is a bit of fun. I'm not saying it doesn't teach kids values and other things and that it's not good for mental health etc. But come on - surely you're not saying football is as important as school? No of course Education is of upmost importance but even though not as important exercise and fitness are something children should be doing. I think with all the social media and PlayStation’s etc its hard to get kids to do any exercise. Football is the one thing my son likes doing other than the occasional bike ride. Don't get me wrong, I agree entirely. And of course if this was just a random decision there would be uproar. But they're trying to bring the R rate down as much as possible and that requires shutting everything down other than that which is essential. If the lockdown was scheduled for 3 months plus I'd probably be siding with you. But (all being well) it's just 4 weeks; fingers crossed it flies by. And P.S. I'm aware I'm probably fighting a losing battle having this discussion on a football forum
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 9:52:44 GMT
No of course Education is of upmost importance but even though not as important exercise and fitness are something children should be doing. I think with all the social media and PlayStation’s etc its hard to get kids to do any exercise. Football is the one thing my son likes doing other than the occasional bike ride. Don't get me wrong, I agree entirely. And of course if this was just a random decision there would be uproar. But they're trying to bring the R rate down as much as possible and that requires shutting everything down other than that which is essential. If the lockdown was scheduled for 3 months plus I'd probably be siding with you. But (all being well) it's just 4 weeks; fingers crossed it flies by. And P.S. I'm aware I'm probably fighting a losing battle having this discussion on a football forum Problem is they are trying to reduce the R rate by restricting all the activities that are well organised and where Covid measures are in place. You visit a non essential shop and sanitizer is at the door and masks are worn for example. Play golf and bunker rakes are removed and flags are not touched and social distancing comes naturally. Stopping neither of these will have little or no bearing on the rate of infection. Nobody seems to have the balls to stand up and point the finger at the Covid breaches by the teens and 20 somethings who are responsible for this second wave - all the parties and indoor social gatherings which were against the rules before and still are.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2020 10:14:43 GMT
Problem is if you draw the line for golf and kids football, where do you stop? Something has to be done or we'll just finish up like Italy were earlier in the year.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2020 10:21:15 GMT
The point is that as frustrating as it is for one month the Government are trying to cut out as many activities as possible that make us go out of the house and mix with others.It is not necessarily the risk of the sport itself although that is relevant. My particular sport is Walking Football which at my age I consider essential to my overall fitness or lack of it. We are all in the high risk age bracket and get about thirty attend for an hour and as far as we are aware none of us have had Covid BUT the point is I can see that this causes thirty of us to leave the house which possibly we wouldnt usually do and if you multiply this by how many teams thyere are over the Country and then you do the same for all other types of grass root football then you can see the reason for stopping it for a month- and this is just talking about one sport. I am sure everybody is going to have to give up something for a month and come up with reasons why they shouldnt have to. The less you have available to you the more likely you are to stay home. What frustrates me more is that the large increases have started again since Universities and schools have gone back and yet they remain open for the month!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 10:30:03 GMT
Problem is if you draw the line for golf and kids football, where do you stop? Something has to be done or we'll just finish up like Italy were earlier in the year. Simple. You draw a line against a sport where there is a very real threat of infection, for example grass roots rugby requires very close contact and carries a far increased risk than golf or tennis which carries barely any risk. it’s the same with businesses. If we are using the “where do you draw the line” argument then every single type of business needs to be shut down for consistency. All the measures need to be risk based and not what is seen to be fair and consistent.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 10:35:14 GMT
The point is that as frustrating as it is for one month the Government are trying to cut out as many activities as possible that make us go out of the house and mix with others.It is not necessarily the risk of the sport itself although that is relevant. My particular sport is Walking Football which at my age I consider essential to my overall fitness or lack of it. We are all in the high risk age bracket and get about thirty attend for an hour and as far as we are aware none of us have had Covid BUT the point is I can see that this causes thirty of us to leave the house which possibly we wouldnt usually do and if you multiply this by how many teams thyere are over the Country and then you do the same for all other types of grass root football then you can see the reason for stopping it for a month- and this is just talking about one sport. I am sure everybody is going to have to give up something for a month and come up with reasons why they shouldnt have to. The less you have available to you the more likely you are to stay home. What frustrates me more is that the large increases have started again since Universities and schools have gone back and yet they remain open for the month!! You can’t compare a sport where there are multiple close interactions by people from multiple households with sports like tennis and golf where two people can participate and be socially distanced and safe. You are still allowed to cycle or jog with one other person from a different household so what is the difference? Like I said in my previous post banning activities needs to be risk based not made on perception. Also not sure why leaving the house is an issue if it is to perform a perfectly safe activity. Leaving the house to play rugby is totally different to leaving the house to play a socially distanced and safe round of golf.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2020 10:38:18 GMT
eric, Because the Government want as many people as possible to STAY HOME.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2020 11:11:15 GMT
Problem is if you draw the line for golf and kids football, where do you stop? Something has to be done or we'll just finish up like Italy were earlier in the year. Simple. You draw a line against a sport where there is a very real threat of infection, for example grass roots rugby requires very close contact and carries a far increased risk than golf or tennis which carries barely any risk. it’s the same with businesses. If we are using the “where do you draw the line” argument then every single type of business needs to be shut down for consistency. All the measures need to be risk based and not what is seen to be fair and consistent. Pretty sure most non essential businesses are closed, pubs etc shopping centres, car show rooms etc, I can't honestly see people can't cope without playing a round of golf once a week for a month.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 17:21:32 GMT
Simple. You draw a line against a sport where there is a very real threat of infection, for example grass roots rugby requires very close contact and carries a far increased risk than golf or tennis which carries barely any risk. it’s the same with businesses. If we are using the “where do you draw the line” argument then every single type of business needs to be shut down for consistency. All the measures need to be risk based and not what is seen to be fair and consistent. Pretty sure most non essential businesses are closed, pubs etc shopping centres, car show rooms etc, I can't honestly see people can't cope without playing a round of golf once a week for a month. And when restrictions are tightened or eased not all businesses are treated the same - it is based on their level of risk. The same should apply to sports and leisure activities. Of course anyone can live without the likes of tennis or golf, but why should something they enjoy and has so many health benefits be taken away when it has virtually no impact on the increasing spread of the virus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 17:30:28 GMT
eric, Because the Government want as many people as possible to STAY HOME. We can all stay locked indoors for two years until every single person has been vaccinated. Does anyone want that - No. Instead activities that cause virtually no health risk should be allowed to continue and more effort put into stopping activities which do risk spreading the virus. Why is travelling to a place of sport or hobby such an issue? Is the NHS currently being overwhelmed by people injured in car accidents whilst travelling to undertake hobbies? Cycling causes lots of injuries but we’re encouraged to do that.
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Post by cockergas on Nov 3, 2020 19:01:19 GMT
Don’t really do any sport these days, too old but I do walk the wife’s dogs everyday (hence the name Cocker). I can do that safely with little risk to me or others. I do see the argument that some activities lend themselves to being safe activities, such as golf and tennis as it’s easy to keep your distance from playing partners. The health and mental wellness realises by these activities far outweigh the minimal risk of COVID. And please tell me how garden centres have been allowed to stay open, hardly essential
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2020 21:08:26 GMT
Eric, I dont disagree with you at all. I am just saying what the Government is saying rightly or wrongly.
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