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Post by pucklegas on Nov 18, 2020 11:09:29 GMT
Funnily that's my opinion too, cook is the best candidate and when he was at Exeter I wanted him here but Tisdale appears quiet and I think we need a cup thrower, my pompey mate says cook fell out with the owners after promotion he went on a bender and was drunk the next day. I want someone with a personality and think Cook would do a marvellous job, Tisdale may but I favour Cook. I too think this bunch of players could do with someone who isn't afraid to shout at them from time to time. I feel Tisdale will be very similar to BG which will annoy fans if he is just stood there unanimated on the touch line when we are getting a pasting. I at least hope he is the sort of manager who has a plan B, plan C etc up his sleeve for when things are not going right on the pitch. That was one of BG's biggest downfalls, keeping the same formation and just making like for like substitutions. Good points Cogs was not astute tactically but think the players were scared of him.
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Post by 68 on Nov 18, 2020 11:26:30 GMT
FWIW Tisdale and Widdrington played in the same Southampton squad 96/97 and will know each other very well. Won’t be disappointed if it is Tisdale but my number one choices would be Adkins or Cook. They both have a bit of pedigree at a higher level and I see them as coup for the club. Can someone please comment on the playing style of Adkins and Cook? Or any of the others put forward. I know something about Tisdale but not many of the others.
That is going to be the first question I think.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 18, 2020 11:37:24 GMT
Spittles suggesting Tisdale could bring Tilly with him, which would be nice
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Post by gas2 on Nov 18, 2020 11:42:53 GMT
We need a decent defender he could play as well now
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Post by gas2 on Nov 18, 2020 11:45:32 GMT
We need a decent defender he could play as well now tilson ticks all the boxes ex player we need a defensive coach and is available
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Post by TAGas on Nov 18, 2020 12:47:30 GMT
Who's been putting money in Mark Hughes?
He's joined the race now at 16/1!
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 18, 2020 12:54:35 GMT
Who's been putting money in Mark Hughes? He's joined the race now at 16/1! Not me I'm on waels mate Harry Redknapp 😂😂
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Post by helpliner on Nov 18, 2020 13:08:05 GMT
Who's been putting money in Mark Hughes? He's joined the race now at 16/1! Not me I'm on waels mate Harry Redknapp 😂😂 So if I'm not mistaken Ian, thats Holloway, Cook, and Rednap you are in favour of . Is that right?
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 18, 2020 13:15:46 GMT
Not me I'm on waels mate Harry Redknapp 😂😂 So if I'm not mistaken Ian, thats Holloway, Cook, and Rednap you are in favour of . Is that right? Martyn I want paul cook never mentioned ollie although I am surprised he took Grimsby role, Redknapp is said in jest, think from what I have read Paul Tisdale will get the job, I will support whoever gets it, cook is less of a risk but I thought Graydon would be good 😂😂😂😂 I hope you are keeping well?
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 18, 2020 13:17:19 GMT
Spittles suggesting Tisdale could bring Tilly with him, which would be nice Spittles is wrong IMO. It would be a terrible and underwhelming appointment. You have 2 free managers in Paul Cook and Daniel Stendel who have managed teams to promotion from L1, along with a manager who managed a relegation scrap in the championship to safety in Danny Cowley and the preferred option we are to be believed is a manager who has a best season of 8th in L1, has never managed a bigger club with expectation, has never had any ambition to manage a high level and has pinned some results on his fashion sense. If we are a serious club about moving forward and getting promoted, why are we looking at a manager who’s never been there or had any experience of getting there when there are 3 better free candidates available who have? It’s just the wrong appointment. It would have been the right one about 5 years ago but not now.
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Post by helpliner on Nov 18, 2020 13:21:02 GMT
So if I'm not mistaken Ian, thats Holloway, Cook, and Rednap you are in favour of . Is that right? Martyn I want paul cook never mentioned ollie although I am surprised he took Grimsby role, Redknapp is said in jest, think from what I have read Paul Tisdale will get the job, I will support whoever gets it, cook is less of a risk but I thought Graydon would be good 😂😂😂😂 I hope you are keeping well? I'm well thanks Ian, keeping the wheels of Helpline turning!! Have a look at your post on November 14th at 7.18pm
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Post by althepirate on Nov 18, 2020 13:25:42 GMT
So if I'm not mistaken Ian, thats Holloway, Cook, and Rednap you are in favour of . Is that right? Martyn I want paul cook never mentioned ollie although I am surprised he took Grimsby role, Redknapp is said in jest, think from what I have read Paul Tisdale will get the job, I will support whoever gets it, cook is less of a risk but I thought Graydon would be good 😂😂😂😂 I hope you are keeping well? Yes we all thought Graydon would be good 🤭🤭🤭
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Post by TAGas on Nov 18, 2020 13:26:11 GMT
Spittles suggesting Tisdale could bring Tilly with him, which would be nice Spittles is wrong IMO. It would be a terrible and underwhelming appointment. You have 2 free managers in Paul Cook and Daniel Stendel who have managed teams to promotion from L1, along with a manager who managed a relegation scrap in the championship to safety in Danny Cowley and the preferred option we are to be believed is a manager who has a best season of 8th in L1, has never managed a bigger club with expectation, has never had any ambition to manage a high level and has pinned some results on his fashion sense. If we are a serious club about moving forward and getting promoted, why are we looking at a manager who’s never been there or had any experience of getting there when there are 3 better free candidates available who have? It’s just the wrong appointment. It would have been the right one about 5 years ago but not now. I do agree with you, but what if (and this is likely) Paul Tisdale is the best manager that applies for the job?
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 18, 2020 13:28:37 GMT
Who's been putting money in Mark Hughes? He's joined the race now at 16/1! Not me I'm on waels mate Harry Redknapp 😂😂 No. We’d be bankrupt by March. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 13:34:02 GMT
And that is the truth isn’t it. Whoever we appoint will come with no guarantees whatever records they have. We’ve seen it before managers with good records who should have fitted in didn’t. Megson, Francis, Trolls and DC were responsible for 5 out of 6 promotions yet they were nearly all first time managers. Only Francis had had experience before and that was a relegation with Exeter, so hardly an endorsement. Even Bert Tann who got our very first promotion in the 50s was a first time manager. Yet we are continually saying we need experience when the evidence points to first time managers doing best. No guarantees, just keep your fingers crossed it’s a good fit. UTG! Good point. I just feel that IF and I mean a very big if we signed someone like Cook and then it failed, youd think well we went for the best manager with the best record and it failed, but if you went for Tisdale with a poor league one record albeit 8th with Exeter 9 years ago.. then if he fails with us then you'd naturally think why didnt we just for for someone else who had a better record. Just my opinion of course. It’s a very bland appointment imo. How many other league two clubs fans will be thinking “damn, we missed out on him, what a coup for Rovers”, probably none.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 18, 2020 13:34:51 GMT
Spittles suggesting Tisdale could bring Tilly with him, which would be nice Spittles is wrong IMO. It would be a terrible and underwhelming appointment. You have 2 free managers in Paul Cook and Daniel Stendel who have managed teams to promotion from L1, along with a manager who managed a relegation scrap in the championship to safety in Danny Cowley and the preferred option we are to be believed is a manager who has a best season of 8th in L1, has never managed a bigger club with expectation, has never had any ambition to manage a high level and has pinned some results on his fashion sense. If we are a serious club about moving forward and getting promoted, why are we looking at a manager who’s never been there or had any experience of getting there when there are 3 better free candidates available who have? It’s just the wrong appointment. It would have been the right one about 5 years ago but not now. I don’t disagree, but what if the likes of Cook, Cowley & Stendel won’t drop to L1 for a job with a rigid buy young & sell on strategy, when they also aren’t able to bring their own backroom staff with them? The conditions we’ve set around the job will only appeal to a certain type of manager, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 13:40:26 GMT
Spittles suggesting Tisdale could bring Tilly with him, which would be nice Spittles is wrong IMO. It would be a terrible and underwhelming appointment. You have 2 free managers in Paul Cook and Daniel Stendel who have managed teams to promotion from L1, along with a manager who managed a relegation scrap in the championship to safety in Danny Cowley and the preferred option we are to be believed is a manager who has a best season of 8th in L1, has never managed a bigger club with expectation, has never had any ambition to manage a high level and has pinned some results on his fashion sense. If we are a serious club about moving forward and getting promoted, why are we looking at a manager who’s never been there or had any experience of getting there when there are 3 better free candidates available who have? It’s just the wrong appointment. It would have been the right one about 5 years ago but not now. Completely agree (bar Cowley). The problem is that the board have forced themselves to appoint Tisdale because of their criteria which means we have to overlook more successful candidates in favour of lesser ones because of those constraints. I also agree about the timing, I’d have been quite pleased with Tisdale a few years back but right now after Garner we need someone who’s been managing recently and is likely to have fresh ideas and perspectives. I can’t help but see Tisdale as yesterday’s man.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 13:42:46 GMT
Spittles is wrong IMO. It would be a terrible and underwhelming appointment. You have 2 free managers in Paul Cook and Daniel Stendel who have managed teams to promotion from L1, along with a manager who managed a relegation scrap in the championship to safety in Danny Cowley and the preferred option we are to be believed is a manager who has a best season of 8th in L1, has never managed a bigger club with expectation, has never had any ambition to manage a high level and has pinned some results on his fashion sense. If we are a serious club about moving forward and getting promoted, why are we looking at a manager who’s never been there or had any experience of getting there when there are 3 better free candidates available who have? It’s just the wrong appointment. It would have been the right one about 5 years ago but not now. I don’t disagree, but what if the likes of Cook, Cowley & Stendel won’t drop to L1 for a job with a rigid buy young & sell on strategy, when they also aren’t able to bring their own backroom staff with them? The conditions we’ve set around the job will only appeal to a certain type of manager, IMO. Exactly, if we stick rigidly to all those constraints then it’s probably only out of work managers with dusty phones who will be interested. In fact I’d wonder what was wrong with any manager who was because it’s giving up so much autonomy. We’ll end up with an appointment from within at this rate.
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 18, 2020 13:44:46 GMT
Martyn I want paul cook never mentioned ollie although I am surprised he took Grimsby role, Redknapp is said in jest, think from what I have read Paul Tisdale will get the job, I will support whoever gets it, cook is less of a risk but I thought Graydon would be good 😂😂😂😂 I hope you are keeping well? I'm well thanks Ian, keeping the wheels of Helpline turning!! Have a look at your post on November 14th at 7.18pm Not me I'm pucklegas that was from pucklechurch gas two different fans but good spot, who do you want?
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Post by TAGas on Nov 18, 2020 13:49:16 GMT
I think we also have to remember that out of all these potential managers.
Tisdale would be the cheapest
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