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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 18, 2020 14:42:54 GMT
My understanding is that he's good in division two but struggled in div one . Didn't he get Exeter relegated from one and mk Dons were rock bottom too in one ?. His record in division two is brilliant though !.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 18, 2020 14:44:23 GMT
Not being funny but anything’s an upgrade on Garner. Actually quite pleased if this is true , icing on the cake would be Tilly joining up alongside him. 🤞 This is the way I see it. They could have put up one of the cardboard cut outs from the family stand and I’d have been happy. Although I’m keen on the Tisdale appointment, I’m delighted with it.
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 18, 2020 14:44:48 GMT
Not the person I was looking for either, hope if it comes about it works out.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 18, 2020 14:48:23 GMT
I was initially not keen, but I feel more confident about this appointment having listened to the EFL Podcast with his interview. He wasn't touting himself for the Rovers job at the time, but his philosophy seems to be well-matched with the new club philosophy. Regardless of how his spell at MK Dons ended, it could just be that Tisdale and The Gas will be a good match.
If he brings Tilly with him too, that would be a bonus to have a club legend back here.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 18, 2020 14:48:38 GMT
Not who I wanted If this is the case. I'll back him, but just looks like the cheap option again. I know they said they wanted the new manager in asap, but this quick!? Perhaps playing the devil’s advocate here but is it such a bad thing that we would go for the supposedly cheap option during a pandemic when our revenue streams are very limited? Also if Tisdale is the “cheap” option shouldn’t we be looking at it from the point of view that we’ve potentially got a bargain considering his track record of developing young players, his three promotions and the style of football he got Exeter City to play which matches our own ethos? I understand where you're coming from and you make some really good points. Ben Garner was the cheap option also and that hasn't paid off as a bargain. You're right about the financial implications of the pandemic and this may play a factor in why we are going for the cheap option again But the board has to expect that this can go wrong again as it's his league one record that concerns me also the fact hes been out of work for a year and no other league 1 or 2 club has wanted to hire him. If he gets the job which now looks like he will, I will back him 100% just like I did with Garner and give the guy a chance. I just have a feeling in my water this is not the guy we need.
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Post by BrightonGas on Nov 18, 2020 14:48:55 GMT
Can’t help but think we will regret this. What happened to being ITK?!
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 18, 2020 14:50:44 GMT
Not who I wanted If this is the case. I'll back him, but just looks like the cheap option again. I know they said they wanted the new manager in asap, but this quick!? Why is it the cheap option? The cheap option is to promote from within like TW CH or LM. Tis is an experienced lower league manager who fits the profile of what WAQ wants the club to achieve.
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Post by 1986gashead on Nov 18, 2020 14:51:44 GMT
Whether he’s the best manager available or any fans first choice or not... I think it can be agreed by most that he’s the best fit in terms of what Starnes has said we are looking for. I think he could be a good appointment personally
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Post by Gassy on Nov 18, 2020 14:52:40 GMT
Not who I wanted If this is the case. I'll back him, but just looks like the cheap option again. I know they said they wanted the new manager in asap, but this quick!? Why is it the cheap option? The cheap option is to promote from within like TW CH or LM. Tis is an experienced lower league manager who fits the profile of what WAQ wants the club to achieve. Was just about to post the same, whilst I would rather we went for someone else - Tisdale is hardly the cheap option. Cheap would be promoting from within IMO. Surprised at the speed of all this though, if not a little worried tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 14:53:36 GMT
Not who I wanted If this is the case. I'll back him, but just looks like the cheap option again. I know they said they wanted the new manager in asap, but this quick!? Perhaps playing the devil’s advocate here but is it such a bad thing that we would go for the supposedly cheap option during a pandemic when our revenue streams are very limited? Also if Tisdale is the “cheap” option shouldn’t we be looking at it from the point of view that we’ve potentially got a bargain considering his track record of developing young players, his three promotions and the style of football he got Exeter City to play which matches our own ethos? It was all in the league below though bar one season of success in league one. Put it this way, if we got sucked into a relegation battle how confident would you be with Tisdale in charge? He won’t be the kind of guy to go back to basics to try and ground out results. If the pretty passing football doesn’t work I expect we’re as good as doomed. I agree though that perhaps throwing big money at a manager who would have been a statement of intent is probably not the best strategy in the current climate. I’m just not really wowed at all and I’ll bet the Sh1!heads won’t be having any sleepless nights that there will be a league derby any time soon either. Their opinion is a good barometer as to the kind of statement we’ve made. Anyway, good luck to him, I think he’ll need it.
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Post by axegas on Nov 18, 2020 14:55:56 GMT
I think you’ve got to look at the positives of it. Number 1 it’s not Garner, it would be pretty hard to have a worse record than him right? Tisdale has been in the football industry for almost 30 years now and has vast experience both as a manager and as a player.
Secondly, he fits with what Wael wants to achieve, developing young players to sell on for a profit and playing an exciting attacking brand of football as he got Exeter playing during his time there. It can only be a good thing if the owner and manager are singing off the same hymn sheet.
Thirdly, he has had relative success in this division before, he finished 8th with Exeter City, which is more than Clarke or Trollope ever managed to achieve. We haven’t finished higher than that since Holloway.
Additionally if he did bring Andy Tillson to the club, that would be a massive bonus as a good defensive coach is what we need right now to help our centre backs, especially Kilgour and Harries who lack experience.
It may not be that coach who’s brought clubs up from league one and had experience managing in the championship like I think a few were hoping for, but I still think Tisdale is a solid appointment who will move us forward, all things considered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 14:56:33 GMT
Why is it the cheap option? The cheap option is to promote from within like TW CH or LM. Tis is an experienced lower league manager who fits the profile of what WAQ wants the club to achieve. Was just about to post the same, whilst I would rather we went for someone else - Tisdale is hardly the cheap option. Cheap would be promoting from within IMO. Surprised at the speed of all this though, if not a little worried tbh. They obviously had a strategy when they gave Garner the boot. That strategy was call Tisdale up. He could probably play hard ball and screw a few extra qui d out of them as it seems that, given our constraints, he’s the only game in town. I just wish he had a better record in league one and was perhaps more in demand than he appears.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 18, 2020 14:57:04 GMT
If it happens then he gets my full support but I was expecting a longer wait after those press interviews yesterday. No reason to wait if they’ve got the man they want but it looks like another appointment where they’ve acted to get a quick appointment rather than a reflective / is this the best person type of interview. He has a good record, good experience and fits the profile that I think we set for the new manager. The speed of it tells me that perhaps the board have been having confidential meetings regarding BG over the past week or more so that they could move quickly (within a week) if they needed to. Which they have. So yes, I’m happy with him, if it happens, But, as ever, time will tell, no guarantees. UTG!
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 18, 2020 14:57:15 GMT
Why is it the cheap option? The cheap option is to promote from within like TW CH or LM. Tis is an experienced lower league manager who fits the profile of what WAQ wants the club to achieve. Was just about to post the same, whilst I would rather we went for someone else - Tisdale is hardly the cheap option. Cheap would be promoting from within IMO. Surprised at the speed of all this though, if not a little worried tbh. I'm not surprised at all I believe he was on the shortlist last time and I would imagine the way we seem to be better run that contact was made very early possibly even before the sacking as MS stated concerns had crept in for a while.
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Post by pudseygas on Nov 18, 2020 14:57:51 GMT
I wonder if he's learnt how to dress since his last job? Or is he going to think he's the coolest manager in league 1
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 18, 2020 14:58:36 GMT
Can’t help but think we will regret this. What happened to being ITK?! ??
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 18, 2020 14:58:45 GMT
Why is it the cheap option? The cheap option is to promote from within like TW CH or LM. Tis is an experienced lower league manager who fits the profile of what WAQ wants the club to achieve. Was just about to post the same, whilst I would rather we went for someone else - Tisdale is hardly the cheap option. Cheap would be promoting from within IMO. Surprised at the speed of all this though, if not a little worried tbh. I think this shows progress. We hadn’t planned to get rid of Garner, it was a reactionary thing to a terrible performance, but we managed to react to it rapidly because we knew who we wanted, and we’ve gone out and got them. When was the last time we were this quick with an appointment that wasn’t an anointment from within? 2020 Bristol Rovers, long live the new board!
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 18, 2020 14:59:39 GMT
Not a bad choice. He’s experienced and used to working with tight resources.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 18, 2020 15:00:39 GMT
Perhaps playing the devil’s advocate here but is it such a bad thing that we would go for the supposedly cheap option during a pandemic when our revenue streams are very limited? Also if Tisdale is the “cheap” option shouldn’t we be looking at it from the point of view that we’ve potentially got a bargain considering his track record of developing young players, his three promotions and the style of football he got Exeter City to play which matches our own ethos? It was all in the league below though bar one season of success in league one. Put it this way, if we got sucked into a relegation battle how confident would you be with Tisdale in charge? He won’t be the kind of guy to go back to basics to try and ground out results. If the pretty passing football doesn’t work I expect we’re as good as doomed. I agree though that perhaps throwing big money at a manager who would have been a statement of intent is probably not the best strategy in the current climate. I’m just not really wowed at all and I’ll bet the Sh1!heads won’t be having any sleepless nights that there will be a league derby any time soon either. Their opinion is a good barometer as to the kind of statement we’ve made. Anyway, good luck to him, I think he’ll need it. I really have never quite understood why some people consider certain managers to only be capable of managing in L2. Personally I don't see why there should be any reason to think that someone who is good at managing in L2, can't also be good at managing in L1. The only two times he's managed in L1, has been with clubs he brought up from L2. In my eyes, this immediately puts him at somewhat of a disadvantage, as Exeter let's face it are not a club of L1 stature, and MK Dons had a lot of injury problems and besides they have been struggling in L1 under other managers as well. At least Tisdale actually got them back into this level. If he gets appointed by us, then he's immediately working at a club that are already established at this level. I would be excited to see what he could achieve here.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 18, 2020 15:02:34 GMT
Was just about to post the same, whilst I would rather we went for someone else - Tisdale is hardly the cheap option. Cheap would be promoting from within IMO. Surprised at the speed of all this though, if not a little worried tbh. I think this shows progress. We hadn’t planned to get rid of Garner, it was a reactionary thing to a terrible performance, but we managed to react to it rapidly because we knew who we wanted, and we’ve gone out and got them. When was the last time we were this quick with an appointment that wasn’t an anointment from within? 2020 Bristol Rovers, long live the new board! Guess what we don't know (and maybe never will) is just how long discussions had been going on "off the record" along the line of thought that it was all going pear shaped on the pitch with BG and then the Fleetwood game just crystallized them into action.
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