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Post by markczgas on Nov 22, 2020 9:34:40 GMT
Even if Jonah comes back it's still not enough IMO he's not got enough experience at this level. I dont know who's bright idea it was not to sign an experienced centre forward before the start of the season. BG, TE or both.. At the rate we're going would have been better to keep JCH and lost out on the transfer fee. Hanlan is playing his 3rd or 4th season at L1, but with Ayunga struggling for fitness then yeah would be good to get another forward in. Also, have Phillips/Warwick on the bench - give them 15 mins in a game like yesterdays !
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 23, 2020 10:34:49 GMT
There is a limit now though. So if we are at that limit, we can't spend any more, even if it means relegation. It's not the budget we set. Given we did most of our transfer business well before the cut off date I can't see we're anywhere near the budget limit. Although it looks like we can't make any changes til January anyway, which makes it even more questionable why we started the season with two fit (& inexperienced) strikers. Does anybody know what injury Daly's actually suffered? The player's we signed before, will still count as the average league 1 wage. So 22 at that wage will be around the limit surely?? The figure quoted before, was the average league 2 wage, they didn't state what it was before. The doctor wouldn't let Daly carry on. So I assume he said he had concussion. If that's the case, a player can't play for atleast a week. Hopefully that is the case and he's on now, but not allowed to play yet. Would mean him missing the Wigan game atleast, as well though.
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Post by Westy on Nov 23, 2020 12:24:09 GMT
Thought I'd misheard that when other posters suggested he might be out for a while, I assume all being well he'll be back by next Sunday. The comment on the radio was that as it was a head injury last Tuesday, he has to take so many days off - didn't catch how many days I'm afraid. Hope he might be available for Wigan. From what I've gleaned from posters is that he suffered a concussion, which meant a mandatory 7 days off, or something similar. Nothing to worry about (obviously, as long as it's nothing to worry about), realistically he would have been fine to play Saturday on civvie street
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 23, 2020 13:47:38 GMT
At the rate we're going would have been better to keep JCH and lost out on the transfer fee. He would not sign a contract extension,so we risked losing him for nothing. Selling him was the right and only option. But we should have signed some sort of replacement at the time, with experience of lg1. Then so be it. Relegation would lose us more than we got for him in the long run. Selling wasnt the only option as he was under contract.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 23, 2020 13:52:21 GMT
He would not sign a contract extension,so we risked losing him for nothing. Selling him was the right and only option. But we should have signed some sort of replacement at the time, with experience of lg1. Then so be it. Relegation would lose us more than we got for him in the long run. Selling wasnt the only option as he was under contract. He came back to pre season out of shape. If we kept him, we wouldn't have had the JCH you're thinking of. If a player is not committed and not going to put the effort in, then they are not worth keeping.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 23, 2020 13:55:31 GMT
The comment on the radio was that as it was a head injury last Tuesday, he has to take so many days off - didn't catch how many days I'm afraid. Hope he might be available for Wigan. From what I've gleaned from posters is that he suffered a concussion, which meant a mandatory 7 days off, or something similar. Nothing to worry about (obviously, as long as it's nothing to worry about), realistically he would have been fine to play Saturday on civvie street He probably would have carried on like he wanted to on civvie street. But it's better to be safe, than sorry. The FA protocols say a minimum of 6 days now. So as long as he was ok to follow the protocols and had no delays, were could see him in Tuesday as that would be the 6th day. If not, hopefully he will be back for the cup match.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 23, 2020 13:57:18 GMT
Then so be it. Relegation would lose us more than we got for him in the long run. Selling wasnt the only option as he was under contract. He came back to pre season out of shape. If we kept him, we wouldn't have had the JCH you're thinking of. If a player is not committed and not going to put the effort in, then they are not worth keeping. Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age
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Post by brfc on Nov 23, 2020 13:57:53 GMT
Maybe when we get rid of a few in jan we could go in for free agent Tomer Hemed was at Charlton last season and would bring experience and goals maybe wages would be a issue.
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Post by Westy on Nov 23, 2020 14:01:42 GMT
From what I've gleaned from posters is that he suffered a concussion, which meant a mandatory 7 days off, or something similar. Nothing to worry about (obviously, as long as it's nothing to worry about), realistically he would have been fine to play Saturday on civvie street He probably would have carried on like he wanted to on civvie street. But it's better to be safe, than sorry. The FA protocols say a minimum of 6 days now. So as long as he was ok to follow the protocols and had no delays, were could see him in Tuesday as that would be the 6th day. If not, hopefully he will be back for the cup match. Quite right, if my doctor told me to take a week off rather than rush a recovery, then 100% ! I just meant that most likely he's ok, it's just the guidance stopping him, as opposed to something that could be a really long injury 🙏
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Post by oldgas on Nov 23, 2020 14:19:17 GMT
At the rate we're going would have been better to keep JCH and lost out on the transfer fee. He would not sign a contract extension,so we risked losing him for nothing. Selling him was the right and only option. But we should have signed some sort of replacement at the time, with experience of lg1. Thats right. Imagine if we tried to hold him to his contract against his will. His on-pitch body anguage was at best questionable so imagine what he’d be like if he truly had his arse in his hand. The only thing the club could do was sell him. No one man is bigger than the club, and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 15:27:06 GMT
He came back to pre season out of shape. If we kept him, we wouldn't have had the JCH you're thinking of. If a player is not committed and not going to put the effort in, then they are not worth keeping. Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age Perhaps because nobody was bidding £1m+ for him?
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 23, 2020 15:43:24 GMT
He came back to pre season out of shape. If we kept him, we wouldn't have had the JCH you're thinking of. If a player is not committed and not going to put the effort in, then they are not worth keeping. Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age The two are completely different scenarios. Barrett would never be here in the first place, if it wasn't for his fitness problems. He has the technical ability to play at a higher level and if he was fit, then he would be. We took a gamble and he's probably on a low wage. He's under contract, so we couldn't just make him leave. Where as JCH was wanted by a club, offering a decent fee, for a player that did not want to be here. If someone offered to buy Barrett at the same time, he would have gone as well. Not sure how anyone can see the two as the same. The fitness issue, is the only similarity. Barrett is the only one that can sort himself out. Listening to Reading fans, it's probably more of a psychological issue. That he gets down, when not playing and comfort eats and it becomes a vicious cycle. A bit unfair to say it's criminal, without knowing his full circumstances.
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Post by terry on Nov 23, 2020 15:56:36 GMT
daley was kneed in the back of the head by a chelsea under 23 player while sitting on the floor and as usual he wasn't red carded because no officials or commentators saw the incident
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Post by alanrg on Nov 23, 2020 16:07:02 GMT
Sam Frost saying Daly not available tomorrow but will b back the weekend
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 16:07:23 GMT
He came back to pre season out of shape. If we kept him, we wouldn't have had the JCH you're thinking of. If a player is not committed and not going to put the effort in, then they are not worth keeping. Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age In a recent study, pizza was ranked as the food most associated with symptoms of addiction, according to the Yale Food Addiction Scale, a tool that assesses the diagnostic criteria for substance-use disorders in reference to highly processed foods. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4334652/
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Post by Westy on Nov 23, 2020 16:18:46 GMT
Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age In a recent study, pizza was ranked as the food most associated with symptoms of addiction, according to the Yale Food Addiction Scale, a tool that assesses the diagnostic criteria for substance-use disorders in reference to highly processed foods. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4334652/I'm not sure if this adds much to the particular thread, but I can attest to pizza and addiction. Points in my life my recycling was full of wine bottles and pizza boxes! 😬😬😬
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Post by socrates on Nov 23, 2020 16:24:10 GMT
At the rate we're going would have been better to keep JCH and lost out on the transfer fee. He would not sign a contract extension,so we risked losing him for nothing. Selling him was the right and only option. But we should have signed some sort of replacement at the time, with experience of lg1. Classic Rovers. Sell your best striker Don’t replace him Get relegated.
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Post by hardingegas on Nov 23, 2020 16:33:54 GMT
Surely the way round the lack of strikers is to play a 4-3-3 with a front 3 of Nicholson, Hanlan, JML (when fit).
Daly could come in to give Hanlan a break and Hargreaves for Nicholson when needed. There's also the two young strikers to give 15/20 mins in some games.
There's definitely goals in that set of players.
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Post by socrates on Nov 23, 2020 17:09:12 GMT
Surely the way round the lack of strikers is to play a 4-3-3 with a front 3 of Nicholson, Hanlan, JML (when fit). Daly could come in to give Hanlan a break and Hargreaves for Nicholson when needed. There's also the two young strikers to give 15/20 mins in some games. There's definitely goals in that set of players. Or 4-2-3-1 . We certainly don’t have to play 3-5-2 , its clearly not working and with players like JML and Nicholson and Otzumer we’ve got a squad crying out for something with wide attacking players. I also think Tutonda would be good as a left winger or right inside forward cutting in on his left foot. Thing is Garner didn’t try anything interesting out so we don’t know yet.
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Post by CrispPusher on Nov 23, 2020 19:02:23 GMT
Why is Barrett still here then? Contributed absolutely sod all since he came here and has never looked fit. Criminal at his age In a recent study, pizza was ranked as the food most associated with symptoms of addiction, according to the Yale Food Addiction Scale, a tool that assesses the diagnostic criteria for substance-use disorders in reference to highly processed foods. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4334652/Rovers compete in the Papa John's Trophy and Sky Bet League One in front of the Thatcher's terrace, we just need the Sinaloa Cartel and Imperial Tobacco to sponsor the other cup competitions to complete the set.
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