|
Post by socrates on Dec 17, 2020 22:53:27 GMT
The same rules apply for busses , shops , taxis I don’t see the problem. Personally I’d rather wait until there’s more than 2000 and I don’t have to wear a mask anymore because for me it’s more about the atmosphere and the social aspect rather than just being in the ground watching live. So I’ll wait it out for a bit and hopefully in August when the next season kicks off we’ll have something more like the normal Gashead experience to enjoy. That’s exactly how I feel about whether I go or not. Yeah I think if I went in a crowd of 2000 and everyone was wearing masks then that would be worse than chilling with a couple of cans and watching on I follow and it would probably make the depressing Covid / football situation worse for me in my heart and mind than it is now. It would be flat even without the masks. I do however totally respect the clubs wishes if they are saying all fans must wear masks at all times. Hopefully we’ll have our football as we know it back sooner rather than later.
|
|
|
Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 17, 2020 22:59:41 GMT
I’ve got a feeling the government have left South Glos in Tier 3 to make an example of the infamous illegal rave in Yate.
|
|
stuart1974
Proper Gas
Posts: 11,483
Member is Online
|
Post by stuart1974 on Dec 17, 2020 23:07:18 GMT
I’ve got a feeling the government have left South Glos in Tier 3 to make an example of the infamous illegal rave in Yate. Central Bradley Stoke, too many ignoring social distancing at the Willow Brook Centre apparently.
|
|
|
Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 17, 2020 23:51:03 GMT
Masks were on at my visit to Forest Green on Saturday. Didn't seem to cause an issue. Was just nice to see live football. If people are being given the opportunity to watch live football during a pandemic is being asked to wear a mask really that much of an issue? EFL bottled it by leaving it to the clubs to decide.
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Dec 17, 2020 23:58:02 GMT
I’ve been doing things the way I see fit based on what the experts ie the scientists have been saying from day 1 as well as gut instinct and ignored pretty much everything Johnson has said regarding rules and advice. Back in March it was clear the way it was going so I went in to lockdown a week before they declared it. I don’t need that bellend who’s apparently running our country to tell me what to do. Why ? Because he doesn’t give a sh** about the people in this country. The latest “ rules “ say that my elderly family members can come over for a couple of days over Christmas we normally have them over and it’s great fun but I’m not going to put their lives at risk now after we’ve all been so careful just because that complete bellend and his bunch of merry money grabbing tossers say it’s ok. Thing is , what we’ve needed in Britain all through this pandemic Is the people to use common sense but if the people in Britain had any common sense then this country wouldn’t be in the f**king mess it’s in the first place. UTG You have misconstrued the situation: socially, politically, morally, ethically; notwithstanding the contradictory rambling drivel of an addled mind, your opinions are valued, but maybe post them elsewhere. It would save us the bother of having to trawl through such pious claptrap in the hope of reading some Gas related matters. My post was a response to another poster regarding what we can do despite the confusion and mess the government have made and are still making of the pandemic situation in this country. I think you may have got my post mixed up with another because I wasn’t talking to you.
|
|
|
Post by yaz on Dec 18, 2020 3:27:21 GMT
Pompey and Blackpool hone games on Dec 29 and Jan 2 can now have fans!!!
Hopefully all season ticket holders at least?
Could be a real Xmas cracker of games?
Up The League UTG
|
|
|
Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 18, 2020 6:54:28 GMT
Are the club allowed to sell tickets? We have 1,500 ST holder this year I believe, I'd imagine not all of them will want to go, which potentially leaves 8-900 tickets per home game. Wonder if they'll put those on sell? Why do people keep saying the STH is so low? That's good going considering the circumstances. Guessing they'll do it by address and then a ballot as there's no point offering tickets to people from tier 3 areas.
|
|
|
Post by bovrilsorters on Dec 18, 2020 7:47:36 GMT
MK into tier 3 now though so at least they won't have any fans when we play them boxing day They have fans?! As much as they have a quiet passive following, sadly their average attendance last season was nearly 2k higher than ours! Embarrassing when you consider they have no history
|
|
|
Post by lympstonegas on Dec 18, 2020 7:56:30 GMT
Why not leave it up to the individual to make a choice? EFL give clubs the choice so why don’t the club give their fans the same choice? Because those selfish individuals could impact another gashead's life. Also Rovers would be more liable. And then there will be people saying it’s Rovers fault like they say it’s the government’s fault when people think they are above the rules and common sense
|
|
|
Post by gashead1981 on Dec 18, 2020 8:40:58 GMT
I had an email from Kerry last night asking if I wanted to use my ST ticket for 29/12, so the club are quick on the ball with this one. Im a box holder but it was outlined that no hospitality or use of the exec boxes will be on offer, its for a seat in the west or east stand. Quite frankly I would sit on the roof of Santas grotto right now to watch us play at the mem!
|
|
|
Post by gulfofaden on Dec 18, 2020 8:56:13 GMT
Perhaps some can voluntarily lock themselves down to compensate? It would actually work if enough people did it. Could also get a go fund me page for the NHS. There’s loads of positive, constructive things we can do, other than being vocal. I’ve been doing things the way I see fit based on what the experts ie the scientists have been saying from day 1 as well as gut instinct and ignored pretty much everything Johnson has said regarding rules and advice. Back in March it was clear the way it was going so I went in to lockdown a week before they declared it. I don’t need that bellend who’s apparently running our country to tell me what to do. Why ? Because he doesn’t give a sh** about the people in this country. The latest “ rules “ say that my elderly family members can come over for a couple of days over Christmas we normally have them over and it’s great fun but I’m not going to put their lives at risk now after we’ve all been so careful just because that complete bellend and his bunch of merry money grabbing tossers say it’s ok. Thing is , what we’ve needed in Britain all through this pandemic Is the people to use common sense but if the people in Britain had any common sense then this country wouldn’t be in the f**king mess it’s in the first place. UTG I’m more of the opinion that Boris Johnson isn’t a health official or virologist, and basically reads a teleprompter which is regurgitated from what his civil servants and health advisors say. Rest assured, I would seriously doubt Boris has personally been creating health policy and any ire towards the way this has been handled needs to be directed to the NGO’s and health bodies who essentially told him what to do, and what to say. If you don’t like Boris politically, and I sense you don’t, that’s fine, but we need to divorce this from what he’s responsible for, and what he isn’t. As for common sense, given a mask does as much for Covid as your underwear does for a fart, and we have a large contingent of people think asymptomatic people (ie not coughing) not wearing masks are the cause of the pandemic, we may need to think hard about what common sense is. I actually agree with what you’ve stated you did personally as common sense. There is a lot of anger at this pandemic and it’s effects, and it’s management by our bodies and government. The only real clarity is some countries locked their borders early and aggressively locked down their countries. The countries in question on the whole did not operate a furlough or business relief scheme and as a result many of them lost their businesses. They also won’t have any herd immunity - if indeed that’s possible but our health experts seem to have believed it is. In the long run, we may look back and actually see we aced the pandemic by limiting lost life and impact in the long term. Those countries who haven’t had the deaths we have may have another 5 years of steady deaths. [br
|
|
stuart1974
Proper Gas
Posts: 11,483
Member is Online
|
Post by stuart1974 on Dec 18, 2020 9:14:02 GMT
I’ve been doing things the way I see fit based on what the experts ie the scientists have been saying from day 1 as well as gut instinct and ignored pretty much everything Johnson has said regarding rules and advice. Back in March it was clear the way it was going so I went in to lockdown a week before they declared it. I don’t need that bellend who’s apparently running our country to tell me what to do. Why ? Because he doesn’t give a sh** about the people in this country. The latest “ rules “ say that my elderly family members can come over for a couple of days over Christmas we normally have them over and it’s great fun but I’m not going to put their lives at risk now after we’ve all been so careful just because that complete bellend and his bunch of merry money grabbing tossers say it’s ok. Thing is , what we’ve needed in Britain all through this pandemic Is the people to use common sense but if the people in Britain had any common sense then this country wouldn’t be in the f**king mess it’s in the first place. UTG I’m more of the opinion that Boris Johnson isn’t a health official or virologist, and basically reads a teleprompter which is regurgitated from what his civil servants and health advisors say. Rest assured, I would seriously doubt Boris has personally been creating health policy and any ire towards the way this has been handled needs to be directed to the NGO’s and health bodies who essentially told him what to do, and what to say. If you don’t like Boris politically, and I sense you don’t, that’s fine, but we need to divorce this from what he’s responsible for, and what he isn’t. As for common sense, given a mask does as much for Covid as your underwear does for a fart, and we have a large contingent of people think asymptomatic people (ie not coughing) not wearing masks are the cause of the pandemic, we may need to think hard about what common sense is. I actually agree with what you’ve stated you did personally as common sense. There is a lot of anger at this pandemic and it’s effects, and it’s management by our bodies and government. The only real clarity is some countries locked their borders early and aggressively locked down their countries. The countries in question on the whole did not operate a furlough or business relief scheme and as a result many of them lost their businesses. They also won’t have any herd immunity - if indeed that’s possible but our health experts seem to have believed it is. In the long run, we may look back and actually see we aced the pandemic by limiting lost life and impact in the long term. Those countries who haven’t had the deaths we have may have another 5 years of steady deaths. [br Probably one for another forum, but the adage that 'advisers advise, ministers decide' is how it works. Decisions of this magnitude must be taken by the elected officials. The civil service will present a series of options and the relevant minister will judge the most suitable and ask questions and consult experts. If they just go by what they are told by the last person they speak with without giving proper thought or analysis then they are wholly unsuitable to hold office. That goes for all politicians.
|
|
|
Post by gulfofaden on Dec 18, 2020 9:25:01 GMT
I’m more of the opinion that Boris Johnson isn’t a health official or virologist, and basically reads a teleprompter which is regurgitated from what his civil servants and health advisors say. Rest assured, I would seriously doubt Boris has personally been creating health policy and any ire towards the way this has been handled needs to be directed to the NGO’s and health bodies who essentially told him what to do, and what to say. If you don’t like Boris politically, and I sense you don’t, that’s fine, but we need to divorce this from what he’s responsible for, and what he isn’t. As for common sense, given a mask does as much for Covid as your underwear does for a fart, and we have a large contingent of people think asymptomatic people (ie not coughing) not wearing masks are the cause of the pandemic, we may need to think hard about what common sense is. I actually agree with what you’ve stated you did personally as common sense. There is a lot of anger at this pandemic and it’s effects, and it’s management by our bodies and government. The only real clarity is some countries locked their borders early and aggressively locked down their countries. The countries in question on the whole did not operate a furlough or business relief scheme and as a result many of them lost their businesses. They also won’t have any herd immunity - if indeed that’s possible but our health experts seem to have believed it is. In the long run, we may look back and actually see we aced the pandemic by limiting lost life and impact in the long term. Those countries who haven’t had the deaths we have may have another 5 years of steady deaths. [br Probably one for another forum, but the adage that 'advisers advise, ministers decide' is how it works. Decisions of this magnitude must be taken by the elected officials. The civil service will present a series of options and the relevant minister will judge the most suitable and ask questions and consult experts. If they just go by what they are told by the last person they speak with without giving proper thought or analysis then they are wholly unsuitable to hold office. That goes for all politicians. Very true. Alas we will never know what advice and options were given, as those who presented them melt away into the background. However, that’s what politicians are. They take the credit and they take the hit when it goes wrong
|
|
stuart1974
Proper Gas
Posts: 11,483
Member is Online
|
Post by stuart1974 on Dec 18, 2020 9:29:27 GMT
Probably one for another forum, but the adage that 'advisers advise, ministers decide' is how it works. Decisions of this magnitude must be taken by the elected officials. The civil service will present a series of options and the relevant minister will judge the most suitable and ask questions and consult experts. If they just go by what they are told by the last person they speak with without giving proper thought or analysis then they are wholly unsuitable to hold office. That goes for all politicians. Very true. Alas we will never know what advice and options were given, as those who presented them melt away into the background. However, that’s what politicians are. They take the credit and they take the hit when it goes wrong We will know, eventually. Either through an inquiry or when Cabinet papers are released under what used to be known as the 30 year rule. Oh, and when they sell their memoirs. 🤭
|
|
|
Post by trevorgas on Dec 18, 2020 10:16:51 GMT
Very true. Alas we will never know what advice and options were given, as those who presented them melt away into the background. However, that’s what politicians are. They take the credit and they take the hit when it goes wrong We will know, eventually. Either through an inquiry or when Cabinet papers are released under what used to be known as the 30 year rule. Oh, and when they sell their memoirs. 🤭 It has been a thankless task being in government this year and we can have an inquiry be blessed with hindsight and all be self righteous about what we would have done. Personally I just want to to see the learns without the vilification as I firmly believe any government of whatever persuasion would have made mistakes,wilful negligence is a different matter but if it's been a choice between a bad or worse decision as Prof Whitty has said then I will give any government the benefit of the doubt.
|
|
|
Post by gasaholic on Dec 18, 2020 10:17:47 GMT
But south Glos is still in tier 3 😤 The cut off point is the middle of Filton airfield, so even though my local is the Plough, I’m not allowed to visit it. Its actually the border is railway line . We live in Henbury, so to us, the mall and ASDA are out of bounds.........like thats going to stop Christmas shoppers
|
|
|
Post by gulfofaden on Dec 18, 2020 11:23:41 GMT
We will know, eventually. Either through an inquiry or when Cabinet papers are released under what used to be known as the 30 year rule. Oh, and when they sell their memoirs. 🤭 It has been a thankless task being in government this year and we can have an inquiry be blessed with hindsight and all be self righteous about what we would have done. Personally I just want to to see the learns without the vilification as I firmly believe any government of whatever persuasion would have made mistakes,wilful negligence is a different matter but if it's been a choice between a bad or worse decision as Prof Whitty has said then I will give any government the benefit of the doubt. It’s been a brilliant year to be in opposition: - Govt locks down: “You aren’t doing enough to support business” - Govt doesn’t lock down: “You’re costing people’s lives” - Govt partially locks down: “the rules are confusing”
|
|
|
Post by amgas on Dec 18, 2020 11:35:39 GMT
Brilliant. Facts based on a story in the Evening Post who spot a rise in cases in Bradley Stoke and went on facebook to find someone who said "I went to Willow Brook and someone pushed pass me to get a tuna roll". Anyone who has been there will tell you social distancing is followed the same as anywhere else.
As I understand it the spike in cases are from kids doing as they are told and going to school. Fortunately the cases have been identified and suitable isolation etc followed. Be more worried about all the places in Bristol and the rest of the area where the cases have not been identified. If the virus is doing the rounds in Bradley Stoke it is going to be just as bad in the rest of the urban sprawl of greater Bristol - trust me it won't get to Filton Avenue and turn round :-)
Half the parents in Bradley Stoke probably get their kids tested at the slightest sniffle, will they be doing the same in some of the nicer parts of central and south Bristol .......
|
|
|
Post by trevorgas on Dec 18, 2020 12:01:19 GMT
It has been a thankless task being in government this year and we can have an inquiry be blessed with hindsight and all be self righteous about what we would have done. Personally I just want to to see the learns without the vilification as I firmly believe any government of whatever persuasion would have made mistakes,wilful negligence is a different matter but if it's been a choice between a bad or worse decision as Prof Whitty has said then I will give any government the benefit of the doubt. It’s been a brilliant year to be in opposition: - Govt locks down: “You aren’t doing enough to support business” - Govt doesn’t lock down: “You’re costing people’s lives” - Govt partially locks down: “the rules are confusing” Yep wonder why they never say what they would do😆 Remember Starmer seeks call for a Firebreak in November well is little mate in Wales thought it was a great idea and did it,end result we now have the highest infection rates in the UK and a total lockdown looming post Xmas. Funny Starmers never mentioned it again.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 12:15:11 GMT
It’s been a brilliant year to be in opposition: - Govt locks down: “You aren’t doing enough to support business” - Govt doesn’t lock down: “You’re costing people’s lives” - Govt partially locks down: “the rules are confusing” Yep wonder why they never say what they would do😆 Remember Starmer seeks call for a Firebreak in November well is little mate in Wales thought it was a great idea and did it,end result we now have the highest infection rates in the UK and a total lockdown looming post Xmas. Funny Starmers never mentioned it again. Spot on Trevor. As a resident of Carmarthenshire the Labour Welsh government don't know their ass from their elbow. If people in England think Boris has cocked up, Drakeford and his boss Starmer have managed to go one better.
|
|