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Post by Goose on Jan 19, 2021 22:44:39 GMT
I think the team needs a bit of a shake up, we keep making the same mistakes and something needs to change. Now assuming the same absentees from Crewe, I'd start the next game with;
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Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda
--------Grant-----Ogogo---------
-------------McCormick----------
------Barrett---Hanlan---Ayunga---
Or if all bar long termers out are back (Jaak / Daly)
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Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda
---------Ogogo----McCormick----------
-------Westbrook---Oz----Nicholson
--------------Hanlan-----------
We need to start scoring more from open play. I also think now is the time to move Ehmer back into the middle. Am unsure of RB, but would just give Hare the nod, however would look to reinforce in this position.
I also think it's time for tutonda to be given another go. PT has only seen him against Swindle and the time on the sidelines could have given him some fire
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 19, 2021 23:06:39 GMT
I’d like to see Tis recall Tom Davies from his loan so that we can really go all out on Saturday.
Maybe something like:
_____________Day
__Kilgour_Davies_Baldwin_Harries
Ehmer____________________Leahy
______Grant_Ogogo_Hargreaves
__________Westbrooke
Attack attack attack!
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 19, 2021 23:26:51 GMT
Whoever we pick,we will struggle. Simply because we have defenders that can't defend.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2021 0:14:43 GMT
I think the team needs a bit of a shake up, we keep making the same mistakes and something needs to change. Now assuming the same absentees from Crewe, I'd start the next game with; --------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda --------Grant-----Ogogo--------- -------------McCormick---------- ------Barrett---Hanlan---Ayunga--- Or if all bar long termers out are back (Jaak / Daly) -------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda ---------Ogogo----McCormick---------- -------Westbrook---Oz----Nicholson --------------Hanlan----------- We need to start scoring more from open play. I also think now is the time to move Ehmer back into the middle. Am unsure of RB, but would just give Hare the nod, however would look to reinforce in this position. I also think it's time for tutonda to be given another go. PT has only seen him against Swindle and the time on the sidelines could have given him some fire I dont see what Leahy has done to be dropped. I think hes done ok mostly, especially going forward. The problem is balance of the side. We have none. Its ok plugging gaps here and there for a game or 2 but you cant ask a CB to play RB, he doesnt have the requisite game in his locker. You cant ask a CB to play holding MF, he will be caught in 2 minds whether to attack or do his programmed job of defending. A midfielder cant play up front all the time as he isnt training to finish chances. My point is why not pick a team and formation that play to players natural abilities and strengths. Its absolute madness to do otherwise. Every team I have watched in the last 5 games have attacked our right hand side consistently. Why? Because we have RW/RWB and we are playing a CB at RB. Its easy pickings. |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 20, 2021 2:10:36 GMT
Whoever we pick,we will struggle. Simply because we have defenders that can't defend. Yes but they always look invincible in training when we play defence against attack....oh wait... |
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Post by eastgas on Jan 20, 2021 18:08:46 GMT
I think the team needs a bit of a shake up, we keep making the same mistakes and something needs to change. Now assuming the same absentees from Crewe, I'd start the next game with; --------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda --------Grant-----Ogogo--------- -------------McCormick---------- ------Barrett---Hanlan---Ayunga--- Or if all bar long termers out are back (Jaak / Daly) -------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda ---------Ogogo----McCormick---------- -------Westbrook---Oz----Nicholson --------------Hanlan----------- We need to start scoring more from open play. I also think now is the time to move Ehmer back into the middle. Am unsure of RB, but would just give Hare the nod, however would look to reinforce in this position. I also think it's time for tutonda to be given another go. PT has only seen him against Swindle and the time on the sidelines could have given him some fire I know the last few games haven’t been the best but when you see those two teams written down you can see a massive difference in attacking ability we have lately with injuries. If we can get that second side out in the pitch more often than not for the rest of the season we should be fine. Add a couple of quality additions and we could be heading to a top half finish. I still think Leahy is our best LB, he is the most consistent of them all and is stronger all round than the others so would keep him in the side. If we could get little for he would play instead of Hare for me as Hare has not been at it since his return from a second serious knee injury. Rod man also does a good job at RB. It would be Baldwin over ehmer for me. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2021 21:36:22 GMT
I think the team needs a bit of a shake up, we keep making the same mistakes and something needs to change. Now assuming the same absentees from Crewe, I'd start the next game with; --------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda --------Grant-----Ogogo--------- -------------McCormick---------- ------Barrett---Hanlan---Ayunga--- Or if all bar long termers out are back (Jaak / Daly) -------------Day----------- Hare---Kilgour---Ehmer----Tutonda ---------Ogogo----McCormick---------- -------Westbrook---Oz----Nicholson --------------Hanlan----------- We need to start scoring more from open play. I also think now is the time to move Ehmer back into the middle. Am unsure of RB, but would just give Hare the nod, however would look to reinforce in this position. I also think it's time for tutonda to be given another go. PT has only seen him against Swindle and the time on the sidelines could have given him some fire I dont see what Leahy has done to be dropped. I think hes done ok mostly, especially going forward. The problem is balance of the side. We have none. Its ok plugging gaps here and there for a game or 2 but you cant ask a CB to play RB, he doesnt have the requisite game in his locker. You cant ask a CB to play holding MF, he will be caught in 2 minds whether to attack or do his programmed job of defending. A midfielder cant play up front all the time as he isnt training to finish chances. My point is why not pick a team and formation that play to players natural abilities and strengths. Its absolute madness to do otherwise. Every team I have watched in the last 5 games have attacked our right hand side consistently. Why? Because we have RW/RWB and we are playing a CB at RB. Its easy pickings. We were weak down our right side before Ehmer moved to RB, hence why he was moved to that position? Assuming Hare's still injured and Little can't be trusted to start, who else can play at RB, possibly Rodman can play RWB but he's hardly impressed when he's played this season. Perhaps go back to go old fashioned 4-4-2 and play Rodman, or Barrett? at RW in order to offer Ehmer, or Hare, some protection? We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer and so now have no fit RB's nor recognised striker if Hanlan is now injured. |
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Post by Congas on Jan 21, 2021 6:46:57 GMT
"We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer"
The anti-Garner rhetoric gets worse by the day.
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Post by Quarters on Jan 21, 2021 8:16:10 GMT
Get the impression that we should be able to sell Ogogo and Tutonda for £££££££££££ this window given their reputation.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 21, 2021 8:46:16 GMT
"We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer" The anti-Garner rhetoric gets worse by the day. It's remarkable that a board backing their manager can be spun as a negative. |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 21, 2021 9:16:21 GMT
"We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer" The anti-Garner rhetoric gets worse by the day. It's remarkable that a board backing their manager can be spun as a negative. By rights he should have gone after the Southend defeat, keeping him on this summer will have a lasting impact over the next couple of season if we do or don't stay up. I'd have never appointed him but it was clear by the end of the curtailed season he wasn't up to the job. A real shame because there's been plenty of positives about the running of the club off the field recently. |
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2021 9:33:57 GMT
What's happened to Daly? Is he still injured?
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 21, 2021 9:34:38 GMT
Not sure I agree with constant shake ups
Any manager worth his salt works out his best 4 or 5 at the back and sticks with it.
In my opinion we are best suited to a back 4. For me, at present, it’s Ehmer
Kilgour
Baldwin
Leahy
It’s not perfect but if you work on it in training and stick with it it should yield results. Chopping and changing every week creates confusion. Look at the Crewe goals.
We then stick Ogogo in front
Nicholson McCormick Oz Westbrook (Hanlan if Daly fit)
Hanlan or Daly
Bit like Leicester play with a 4-1-4-1
Could work. Just need to sort out the back 4 as going forward we look ok.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 21, 2021 9:35:48 GMT
Baldwin,Upson,Grant Rodman and Harries simply poor.
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 21, 2021 9:57:49 GMT
Ogogo has to start Saturday
Just to have a guy in the middle being aggressive will improve a side that doesn't like a challenge.
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Post by Gaswood on Jan 21, 2021 10:10:30 GMT
I’d like to see Tis recall Tom Davies from his loan so that we can really go all out on Saturday. Maybe something like: _____________Day __Kilgour_Davies_Baldwin_Harries Ehmer____________________Leahy ______Grant_Ogogo_Hargreaves __________Westbrooke Attack attack attack! I like the flow there, but think Westbrooke may not suit that role, and I believe Little is now fit? Also feel Hargreaves lacks the experience that Kelly could bring to that position. Just my thoughts. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 21, 2021 10:47:33 GMT
"We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer" The anti-Garner rhetoric gets worse by the day. Do you see any positives in what he did then . |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 21, 2021 10:49:08 GMT
"We're totally screwed by Wael and co supporting Garner in the summer" The anti-Garner rhetoric gets worse by the day. It's remarkable that a board backing their manager can be spun as a negative. Was it backing a manager or Tommy W ? |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 21, 2021 10:53:08 GMT
Anyway, personally I'd revert to a back four of Leahy, Kilgour, Baldwin & Ehmer. I'd have Abs sitting in front of the defence in for Grant, and then in front of that is anyone's guess as to who is fit. With such a run of games coming up, I think keeping the back four together is imperative. A lot of training time will be taken up by recovery unfortunately.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jan 21, 2021 10:55:37 GMT
So against Crewe we played 3 different formations at times. The starting formation was 3-5-1-1 and we kept that until the 78th minute with our only change being Barrett in for Upson when he pulled up holding his hammy. | _ | _ | Day | _ | _ | | _ | Baldwin | Kilgour | Harries | _ | | Ehmer | Grant | McCormick | Upson | Leahy | | _ | _ | Westbrooke | _ | _ | | _ | _ | Hanlan | _ | _ |
Then for five minutes we went 4-2-3-1 having brought on Rodman and Koiki for Harries and Leahy | _ | _ | Day | _ | _ | | Ehmer | Baldwin | _ | Kilgour | Leahy | | _ | Grant | _ | Barrett | _ | | _ | Rodman | Westbrooke | McCormick | _ | | _ | _ | Hanlan | _ | _ |
We then played the remainder of the game as a 3-4-2-1 with Ayunga replacing Hanlan | _ | _ | Day | _ | _ | | _ | Ehmer | Kilgour | Baldwin | _ | | Rodman | Grant | _ | Barrett | Koiki | | _ | Westbrooke | _ | McCormick | _ | | _ | _ | Ayuna | _ | _ |
Playing 3 at the back always seems to leave us a little bare at the back and is a worry whenever a team break, that being said we also looked better going forward and created a high number of attempts (one of our highest ever this season?) against Crewe. I wouldn't be surprised to see this formation used again vs Oxford as worrying as that sounds. Now a couple of things... Upson went off injured... do we know anything more? Holding is hammy you would imagine quite a few weeks out so his starting place is more than likely up for grabs. Would we likely see Barrett starting or Ogogo? Both give completely different skills to this team. Next up is Hanlan... will he get a rest? Subbed off with the commentator reckons he was limping but many suggesting he was fine. Must be knackered mind so I wouldn't be surprised to see Ayunga start. If playing the wing backs we need players with high energy levels. Both Koiki and Leahy rated highly against Crewe so it's anyone guess as to who gets the nod. You would expect Leahy to retain his place though. One assumes Hare and Tutonda will not be selected as not even on the bench again at Crewe but possibly a place for Rodman at RWB? Still probably risky. I think if we do use this formation again... and given the fact we created a lot I would imagine small changes will be made. My prediction first then what i would like to see. My Prediction: | _ | _ | Day | _ | _ | | _ | Baldwin | Kilgour | Harries | _ | | Ehmer | Grant | McCormick | Barrett | Leahy | | _ | _ | Westbrooke | _ | _ | | _ | _ | Hanlan | _ | _ |
What I would like to see: | _ | _ | Day | _ | _ | | _ | Kilgour | Baldwin | Ehmer | _ | | Ogogo | Grant | McCormick | Barrett | Koiki | | _ | _ | Westbrooke | _ | _ | | _ | _ | Hanlan | _ | _ |
So we have Ogogo in as RWB, still have the energy and tackling ability that I think would suit the role on the right and used to play on the right side of defense in his early career I believe. Doesn't have to whip crosses in as we have no main threat in the air. Koiki in for Leahy (give him a bit of rest) and play to his strenths (speed and strength). Barrett always looking for the ball off the defense so options other than Baldwin to start each attack. Decent interchange play for Macca and Westy hopefully creating space or opportunity for Hanlan. Grant stay back and shield. Set pieces...slow down. Set up with our 4-5 6ft plus players and get in those dangerous areas. Saw too many short ones that went backwards after the first pass in good areas. Hey its not perfect but worth a thought i reckon.
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