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Post by onedaygas83 on Feb 23, 2021 21:45:38 GMT
For me it's been the weak link all season and I'm frustrated that the CB position wasn't looked at in the recent transfer window. It seems who ever is in charge they pick the same defensive players and Joey had no choice but to pick them as he has no chance to bring anyone else now! We played ok today and pressed the best we have all season but I feel sorry for him, the midfield and attack who has to play in front of one of the worse defensive players I've seen in the quarters! I feel very worried for our league one survival after tonight's game.
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Feb 23, 2021 21:56:31 GMT
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2021 21:56:31 GMT
For me it's been the weak link all season and I'm frustrated that the CB position wasn't looked at in the recent transfer window. It seems who ever is in charge they pick the same defensive players and Joey had no choice but to pick them as he has no chance to bring anyone else now! We played ok today and pressed the best we have all season but I feel sorry for him, the midfield and attack who has to play in front of one of the worse defensive players I've seen in the quarters! I feel very worried for our league one survival after tonight's game. Shrewsbury and Burton next up both sides in the bottom 8 that have picked up form and showing the sort of bottle needed in a relegation scrap.
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Feb 23, 2021 22:11:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 22:11:15 GMT
Ehmers been a massibe flop, the others are kids learning and ill give them some slack. They need some quality experience to guide them. Preferably on the pitch but lets hooe clint hill can drill the sh** out of them and sort them out quick.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 23, 2021 22:19:48 GMT
Ehmers been a massibe flop, the others are kids learning and ill give them some slack. They need some quality experience to guide them. Preferably on the pitch but lets hooe clint hill can drill the sh** out of them and sort them out quick. When? there are hardly any spare days on the training ground
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Feb 23, 2021 22:34:06 GMT
Ehmers been a massibe flop, the others are kids learning and ill give them some slack. They need some quality experience to guide them. Preferably on the pitch but lets hooe clint hill can drill the sh** out of them and sort them out quick. Kilgour's played 50 games for us now and Harries is 23. They need to man up and learn how to defend a simple set piece!
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Post by henry on Feb 23, 2021 22:41:14 GMT
In his interview Barton had nothing but praise for Kilgour which will do his confidence good as he’s a shadow of the centre half from last season alongside Craig but it’s not really surprising considering what he has to play alongside this season.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Feb 23, 2021 22:47:57 GMT
Defence has been sh**e all season. Was happy to bin Kilgour end of last season, but he’s the only 1 I’d keep. He’s been great, not superb, still lapses with concentration at times, no pace. But he has really changed my view on him. Considering he has nothing left, right, or center, and Days kicking rules out that route. For a young un looks like the oldest head in that defence.
Not his biggest fan, but keep it up Alfie. Wael get Steve Elliot in to coach Byron how to coach these so called defenders.
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Post by dragonfly on Feb 23, 2021 22:55:30 GMT
It is baffling how defenders who have been learning their trade for many years cannot defend as a unit and remain interested for 94 minutes. Have they the concentration abilities of pond life? Joey Barton talked them up in his interview - I suppose he has to or risk losing them, if he hasn't already.
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Post by biggles on Feb 23, 2021 22:58:25 GMT
how come ehmer was such an asset at gillingham but at the moment not here!
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 23, 2021 22:59:40 GMT
Just because he came up through the ranks, gasheads think he's the new Tom lockyer. He's not.. Very poor player kilgour, but not as bad as ehmer or harries. Get Jamie turley in during the summer. Big tough leader in the middle of the back 4 to sort these absolute numpties out
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Post by oasisgas on Feb 23, 2021 23:01:10 GMT
I wonder if Joel Lynch could do a job for us.
Has been on trial at Bolton but they are both assesing each other and is now not training with them.
Surely a trial can’t hurt and would rather get him in on trial than Joe Ledley who while he might have something to offer is not needed as much as we need an old head at the back.
Matthew Connelly is another one that maybe could do a job for us too.
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Feb 23, 2021 23:01:22 GMT
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 23, 2021 23:01:22 GMT
how come ehmer was such an asset at gillingham but at the moment not here! Because he was asked to play football at priest field and not over complicated garnerball like here
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Post by CrispPusher on Feb 23, 2021 23:02:58 GMT
Ehmers been a massibe flop, the others are kids learning and ill give them some slack. They need some quality experience to guide them. Preferably on the pitch but lets hooe clint hill can drill the sh** out of them and sort them out quick. Jack Baldwin is coming up to 28 and has been just as bad as Ehmer, but I agree hopefully the others will improve with some decent coaching.
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Post by yaz on Feb 24, 2021 0:25:40 GMT
Ehmers been a massibe flop, the others are kids learning and ill give them some slack. They need some quality experience to guide them. Preferably on the pitch but lets hooe clint hill can drill the sh** out of them and sort them out quick. Jack Baldwin is coming up to 28 and has been just as bad as Ehmer, but I agree hopefully the others will improve with some decent coaching. It’s quite difficult marking a player but how can you not mark the front post?! Maybe these posts are moveable? We have a joke defence who just seem to go to sleep at critical times, especially set pieces? Maybe not just direct from the set piece but also from its aftermath! Defending with the basics is not rocket science but this season, it looks like The Gas is going down in smoke. We are terrible in both boxes sums up our season?
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Post by pirate on Feb 24, 2021 6:35:10 GMT
Just because he came up through the ranks, gasheads think he's the new Tom lockyer. He's not.. Very poor player kilgour, but not as bad as ehmer or harries. Get Jamie turley in during the summer. Big tough leader in the middle of the back 4 to sort these absolute numpties out 30-year-old Jamie Turley that can't get a game for mid table Leyton Orient in the division below?
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Post by bluestone on Feb 24, 2021 7:21:29 GMT
Let's hope our new defensive coach can sort it out!
Interesting that we seem to defend quite well during open play but are absolutely useless from set pieces, that to me suggests that is something bigger than the failings in the back line as surely it's a team effort when defending set pieces.
This could be something that is not that difficult to fix and does not mean we need new players in the building.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2021 7:31:27 GMT
Pretty sure it was Kioki not picking up his man on the near post, I wonder if he's up to that task, which is something Barton can learn from/deal with. Just our luck we get our first set piece to defend after making the subs at the death of the match.
Although another issue is our failure to score, if we'd been a goal or two up perhaps defenders giving that extra bit at set pieces becomes easier?
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Post by RD on Feb 24, 2021 7:36:04 GMT
Let's be honest, McCormick, Nicholson and Ansi aside, almost everyone else is utter garbage and worse to a man than the side we had in NON-LEAGUE.
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Feb 24, 2021 7:43:20 GMT
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 24, 2021 7:43:20 GMT
Individually I dont think any of our centre backs are that bad, in open play we've generally been pretty solid. Our problem has been the constant failure to defend set pieces and they are a collective team failure. We routinely bring everyone back too defend set pieces so it's a team failing rather than a back 4 or 5. To me that shows we lack a leader someone to organise us, funnily enough we had one of those and he now plays for Crawley.
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Feb 24, 2021 8:54:20 GMT
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Post by Jomo on Feb 24, 2021 8:54:20 GMT
I don't think any of our defenders are "crap", but they've most definitely been underperforming. When the chips are down, simple instructions and organisation are essential. Without that, we will continue to make mistakes no matter who is in the lineup. BG and PT failed at bringing this, let's hope JB and his staff can finally instil this into them. If they can, then our "crap" defenders will look much better.
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