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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2021 12:21:24 GMT
It worries me that someone who has only presided over one (dire defeat) match should be getting such adulation at the expense of people who have already worked for years for the club. Istm people are getting carried away by Barton's success. Hint: he hasn't had any yet. Also, the idea that we should keep him even if we go down, which I've read a lot over the past week, seems a bit presumptive. Surely we should wait to see the manner of our relegation before advocating the mastermind of our failure be kept in charge. I wonder if you could check the forum settings I seem to be missing the Barton adulation posts in this thread. Cheers Well, that thing that he's getting from his more ardent admirers, pick a word to describe it, and then pretend I said that word. Then you don't have to come up with such as pointless semantic argument in order to ignore everything else in the post. Also you can see where I've said 'over the past week' (I've bolded it for you) so it's very clear I'm not talking about this thread specifically, what with it only being a couple of hours old.
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Post by legas on Feb 27, 2021 12:27:17 GMT
Don’t quite get all the negativity. Nothing wrong with the interview as far as I’m concerned. Arguably he was wasn’t asked directly to address the controversial nature of the appointment but then not sure what he could have said about it other than he feels they got the right man for the job (and I very much doubt he would be able to comment on JB’s forthcoming court case). Decent enough interview overall and at least there’s communication.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 27, 2021 12:34:01 GMT
I wonder if you could check the forum settings I seem to be missing the Barton adulation posts in this thread. Cheers Well, that thing that he's getting from his more ardent admirers, pick a word to describe it, and then pretend I said that word. Then you don't have to come up with such as pointless semantic argument in order to ignore everything else in the post. Also you can see where I've said 'over the past week' (I've bolded it for you) so it's very clear I'm not talking about this thread specifically, what with it only being a couple of hours old. Ah right, I’ll go and check those other threads, I thought this one was about our CEO doing an interview in Rovers PJ’s whilst apparently under the influence of Mogadon
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2021 12:35:28 GMT
Well, that thing that he's getting from his more ardent admirers, pick a word to describe it, and then pretend I said that word. Then you don't have to come up with such as pointless semantic argument in order to ignore everything else in the post. Also you can see where I've said 'over the past week' (I've bolded it for you) so it's very clear I'm not talking about this thread specifically, what with it only being a couple of hours old. Ah right, I’ll go and check those other threads, I thought this one was about our CEO doing an interview in Rovers PJ’s whilst apparently under the influence of Mogadon You can read what I said about it on this thread, in the post you quoted while ignoring everything in that post except one word out of context.
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Post by henry on Feb 27, 2021 12:36:44 GMT
It worries me that someone who has only presided over one (dire defeat) match should be getting such adulation at the expense of people who have already worked for years for the club. Istm people are getting carried away by Barton's success. Hint: he hasn't had any yet. Also, the idea that we should keep him even if we go down, which I've read a lot over the past week, seems a bit presumptive. Surely we should wait to see the manner of our relegation before advocating the mastermind of our failure be kept in charge. I’m In agreement with you strangely enough but I think the point being, although there is 17 games left of this season, that in no way will it be Joey Barton’s fault if we go down according to the pro Barton’s. Not that I am anti Barton as I want him to succeed but surely 17 games is enough to put your mark on a team when you are only one point adrift.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2021 12:40:09 GMT
It worries me that someone who has only presided over one (dire defeat) match should be getting such adulation at the expense of people who have already worked for years for the club. Istm people are getting carried away by Barton's success. Hint: he hasn't had any yet. Also, the idea that we should keep him even if we go down, which I've read a lot over the past week, seems a bit presumptive. Surely we should wait to see the manner of our relegation before advocating the mastermind of our failure be kept in charge. I’m In agreement with you strangely enough but I think the point being, although there is 17 games left of this season, that in no way will it be Joey Barton’s fault if we go down according to the pro Barton’s. Not that I am anti Barton as I want him to succeed but surely 17 games is enough to put your mark on a team when you are only one point adrift. Sure, but we have to see how it happens. There wasn't much, to be fair, to see in the way we went down under DC, especially the game against Torquay that I was absolutely seething about. But I think most people saw enough that made us think that we might be alright to stand by him. So, I feel like, even if we go down, JB can make a claim for the long-term job, but the idea that it's a done deal feels wrong.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 27, 2021 12:43:31 GMT
Ah right, I’ll go and check those other threads, I thought this one was about our CEO doing an interview in Rovers PJ’s whilst apparently under the influence of Mogadon You can read what I said about it on this thread, in the post you quoted while ignoring everything in that post except one word out of context. Ok thank you, I will do. Your guidance is much appreciated👍 So getting back to this thread, do you like Martin’s PJ’s
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Feb 27, 2021 12:47:26 GMT
Okay Interview. But the big questions were missing..........
"So Martin we have had more managers than fans in the stadium this season!" "We are on our third manager, why is this appointment going to work when others didn't?" "Tell us what you as a board did differently in terms of due diligence in the selection of Joey Barton?"
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Post by LJG on Feb 27, 2021 12:49:14 GMT
It worries me that someone who has only presided over one (dire defeat) match should be getting such adulation at the expense of people who have already worked for years for the club. Istm people are getting carried away by Barton's success. Hint: he hasn't had any yet. Also, the idea that we should keep him even if we go down, which I've read a lot over the past week, seems a bit presumptive. Surely we should wait to see the manner of our relegation before advocating the mastermind of our failure be kept in charge. It's just classic for this forum and, to an extent Rovers fans in general, everything Rovers is sh1t and everything different is incredible and what we should be doing. Until we start doing it then it's sh1t.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Feb 27, 2021 12:54:36 GMT
Think that’s indicative of most fans, LJG. Fickle lot ! Utg
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 27, 2021 12:56:59 GMT
I mean, we’ve got to stay up!
I like the ambition but if we go down we know from experience that it could take years to go back up even with big backing in league 2.
I’m getting that horrible sick, nervous feeling reserved for relegation scraps. Maybe the lack of fans in the stadium might actually help us though. There have been some really poisonous atmospheres at the Mem when we’ve been fighting against the drop in the past. Three points today would be lovely.
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Post by alanrg on Feb 27, 2021 13:03:08 GMT
I don’t think the lack of fans is helping us at all the away teams must love coming 2 the Mem no hostile atmosphere I am pretty sure if we were there we would not have lost 9 at home look at Preston home record they have not won at home 4 months I thought the interview with Martyn Starnes was ok
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 13:36:26 GMT
So someone tells Wael that Barton is interested and then a week a few days negotiating how many of his entourage can come as well. Sounds pretty plausible to me.
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Post by Langford Gas on Feb 27, 2021 13:41:44 GMT
"Tommy will watch the opposition and suggest which players should be brought in" - that worries me. In fairness he lso said "players specified by the manager "
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 27, 2021 13:47:55 GMT
Starnes is a joke. He isn’t fit for the role and he to take full responsibility for this shambles.
It speaks volumes that JBs agent went direct to Wael!
Starnes hunts with the hounds and runs with the foxes...any club having a 3rd manager in 4 months has to look at the CEO and say that’s where the blame lies.
Once you recruit for one manager, sack them, upset the squad and club with a poor appointment, then sack that manager...whoever you bring in, with as many coaches and entourage as you like will struggle as will the players.
Get rid of Starnes now and stop the rot. He is the mistletoe infesting our tree! Time to get rid
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 13:50:37 GMT
"Tommy will watch the opposition and suggest which players should be brought in" - that worries me. In fairness he lso said "players specified by the manager " Had another listen - "Looking at opposition and making recommendations on which players should be brought in, and the strengths and weaknesses of the teams that we're going to play". Sounds to me like he will still be muddying the waters with regards to team selection. Maybe I've misinterpreted it?
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 27, 2021 13:52:33 GMT
In fairness he lso said "players specified by the manager " Had another listen - "Looking at opposition and making recommendations on which players should be brought in, and the strengths and weaknesses of the teams that we're going to play". Sounds to me like he will still be muddying the waters with regards to team selection. Maybe I've misinterpreted it? I don’t imagine JB will have that. My guess is TW or JB will be gone within a month, no way they can work together.
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Post by Jomo on Feb 27, 2021 13:54:05 GMT
Starnes is a joke. He isn’t fit for the role and he to take full responsibility for this shambles. It speaks volumes that JBs agent went direct to Wael! Starnes hunts with the hounds and runs with the foxes...any club having a 3rd manager in 4 months has to look at the CEO and say that’s where the blame lies. Once you recruit for one manager, sack them, upset the squad and club with a poor appointment, then sack that manager...whoever you bring in, with as many coaches and entourage as you like will struggle as will the players. Get rid of Starnes now and stop the rot. He is the mistletoe infesting our tree! Time to get rid I'm not the biggest fan of Martyn Starnes, I don't like or dislike him, but don't the board make collective decisions on these things? So you singling Starnes out for criticism on that front seems harsh.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 27, 2021 13:57:03 GMT
Starnes is a joke. He isn’t fit for the role and he to take full responsibility for this shambles. It speaks volumes that JBs agent went direct to Wael! Starnes hunts with the hounds and runs with the foxes...any club having a 3rd manager in 4 months has to look at the CEO and say that’s where the blame lies. Once you recruit for one manager, sack them, upset the squad and club with a poor appointment, then sack that manager...whoever you bring in, with as many coaches and entourage as you like will struggle as will the players. Get rid of Starnes now and stop the rot. He is the mistletoe infesting our tree! Time to get rid I'm not the biggest fan of Martyn Starnes, I don't like or dislike him, but don't the board make collective decisions on these things? So you singling Starnes out for criticism on that front seems harsh. CEO is in charge and is also directly responsible to the board. No hiding in that role. Otherwise it would just be directors
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Post by playtowin on Feb 27, 2021 14:01:36 GMT
I'm not the biggest fan of Martyn Starnes, I don't like or dislike him, but don't the board make collective decisions on these things? So you singling Starnes out for criticism on that front seems harsh. CEO is in charge and is also directly responsible to the board. No hiding in that role. Otherwise it would just be directors Do you have any recommendations for who wael should employ as ceo ?
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