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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 15:51:46 GMT
Can't imagine arguing I've done a good job, when taking a team 4th to a team that looked like never winning a game in the league only to be saved from relegation by a pandemic. Garner will be bringing attention to his really really poor time in charge of us if he is wanting a legal battle. Tisdale does strike me as a "not my fault" kind of person so I would wager he would be wanting to challenge Joey on his comments. I think all Joey can do is again be public, apologise for any comments, but then clarify by giving reasons, the team are not as fit as he was expecting, there is this wrong, there is that wrong... Our Joey is the most blameless figure of the three. It's all a conspiracy.
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Post by kruger on Mar 30, 2021 16:34:58 GMT
I'm just happy we have a manager who actually cares about us, I love his passion, if we go down which we probably will I will feel so much better knowing Joey is our manager.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 30, 2021 16:48:12 GMT
Can't imagine arguing I've done a good job, when taking a team 4th to a team that looked like never winning a game in the league only to be saved from relegation by a pandemic. Garner will be bringing attention to his really really poor time in charge of us if he is wanting a legal battle. Tisdale does strike me as a "not my fault" kind of person so I would wager he would be wanting to challenge Joey on his comments. I think all Joey can do is again be public, apologise for any comments, but then clarify by giving reasons, the team are not as fit as he was expecting, there is this wrong, there is that wrong... Our Joey is the most blameless figure of the three. It's all a conspiracy. Not at all, I agree JB opened himself up here for a bit of hot water because saying someone is negligent is open to interpretation. Joey should just clarify what he means.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 30, 2021 16:51:30 GMT
I'm just happy we have a manager who actually cares about us, I love his passion, if we go down which we probably will I will feel so much better knowing Joey is our manager. satire right?
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Post by RD on Mar 30, 2021 17:01:26 GMT
Sorry but can't believe people are defending Barton over this. If Tis or Garner are looking for a job then this could massively scupper any job opportunities they go for. Joey wasn't even here at the time. He's seriously got to think and be careful what he says and be more professional. This is a serious lack of class whether true or not and he is dragging our club's name through the mud (as I feared when appointed). Absolutely spot on. I haven't said anything as knew I'd be shouted down for being anti-Barton, but his comments were a disgrace. Saying some of the past training etc wasn't up to his standards is one thing - maybe even saying it wasn't good enough. But coming out and saying they should be struck off?! Effectively saying they should never manage again!! Utterly, utterly shameful remarks to his fellow professionals. Disgraceful. I cannot believe there are people defending him - it's one thing saying "well he's right isn't he?!" - it's another thing altogether thinking it's acceptable to say what he said publicly. Disgusting remarks, even by JB's outspoken standards.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2021 17:01:55 GMT
“Joey Barton could be in legal hot water after an extraordinary rant about his Bristol Rovers predecessors. Barton was appointed Rovers manager in late February, replacing Paul Tisdale, who himself only succeeded Ben Garner in November. Sportsmail understands legal action is being considered and lawyers have been contacted after Barton accused the pair of negligence and labelled their training sessions a 'farce'. Rovers were two points above the League One relegation zone when Barton took over and he has overseen just two wins from 10 games. But before the 1-0 defeat by Sunderland on Saturday, Barton pointed the finger at Garner and Tisdale, saying: 'They've set these boys up for failure and we've got to try to reverse that trend. 'Whatever has gone before me has been negligent. If they were doctors, they should certainly be struck off for what's gone on here before. I could show you the footage of the training sessions. They're a farce. It wasn't done correctly. 'How do I know that? Look at the league table. Look at the fact two managers have been removed from the job. Two-and-a-half-hour sessions on a Friday — what chance have the lads got? It's like having a 15-round spar the night before you have a 12-round scrap. What chance have you got? You're going to get your head punched in. 'It's because they don't know what it's like to go in the ring, the Colosseum. They've read it in a book and they've done it on a course and they don't know. It's criminal.' Barton may now have a legal case to answer and he had appeared braced for a comeback when he added: 'Those coaches will probably want to take me to task on that and I'll have absolutely no issue in showing them exactly what they got wrong and where they got it wrong, and they'll be better coaches for it. 'If they want to get on the phone and have a conversation with me, no problem at all.'” www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.htmlI hope they do it. It'll guarantee that neither of them will ever get a managers job again, and I wouldn't wish either of them (especially Garner) on any other club. Well, apart from City of course. Spot on Gassy. What has he said? That the famed videod training sessions were poor and the players weren’t well prepared. I guess that’s been said after every managerial change or something similar but it never sees the light of day. Not really news is it and if either took JB to court over it, a lot of pretty incompetent stuff would come up which would, as you’ve said, probably mean they will never be picked as a manager again. I guess that it wouldn’t even get a line of print if it had been someone other than JB. But then again I doubt if anyone other than JB would say it. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 17:03:05 GMT
They won’t be taking action against the club unless it can be shown the club is a party to the act...the action will be against Barton. Not so sure about that. An employer can be included in an action for vicarious actions of an employee undertaken in the course of their employment. Hope the club did not post the video on their website. JB was clearly being interviewed as part of his employment? Although BG & PT suing JB/BRFC and then winning the case are two different things. Do BG & PT really want their training practices, including their failings, heard in an open court?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 17:05:02 GMT
It's the tip of the iceberg at the moment, just wait until Barton's trial on June 7th commences, the club will be dragged through the media mire by association world wide when that starts. I guess you reap what you sow. That's hardly the case when the incident took place when he was employed by Fleetwood? But Wael employed him knowing the case was being heard this summer.
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Post by dragonfly on Mar 30, 2021 17:05:38 GMT
My Club .... Our Club ... Is the laughing stock of English football. Not just for the dross on the pitch but in the awful way the appalling running of the club is played out in public. It's an absolute tragedy... I want to stay positive but with every passing week i sense I am drifting further away from this Circus. Paul Scally has joined in as well in his letter at Gillingham. He wrote that BRFC were spending beyond its means. Will Wael seek legal advice over this or are we fair game for Scally to single us out?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 17:09:57 GMT
“Joey Barton could be in legal hot water after an extraordinary rant about his Bristol Rovers predecessors. Barton was appointed Rovers manager in late February, replacing Paul Tisdale, who himself only succeeded Ben Garner in November. Sportsmail understands legal action is being considered and lawyers have been contacted after Barton accused the pair of negligence and labelled their training sessions a 'farce'. Rovers were two points above the League One relegation zone when Barton took over and he has overseen just two wins from 10 games. But before the 1-0 defeat by Sunderland on Saturday, Barton pointed the finger at Garner and Tisdale, saying: 'They've set these boys up for failure and we've got to try to reverse that trend. 'Whatever has gone before me has been negligent. If they were doctors, they should certainly be struck off for what's gone on here before. I could show you the footage of the training sessions. They're a farce. It wasn't done correctly. 'How do I know that? Look at the league table. Look at the fact two managers have been removed from the job. Two-and-a-half-hour sessions on a Friday — what chance have the lads got? It's like having a 15-round spar the night before you have a 12-round scrap. What chance have you got? You're going to get your head punched in. 'It's because they don't know what it's like to go in the ring, the Colosseum. They've read it in a book and they've done it on a course and they don't know. It's criminal.' Barton may now have a legal case to answer and he had appeared braced for a comeback when he added: 'Those coaches will probably want to take me to task on that and I'll have absolutely no issue in showing them exactly what they got wrong and where they got it wrong, and they'll be better coaches for it. 'If they want to get on the phone and have a conversation with me, no problem at all.'” www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9415739/Joey-Barton-face-legal-battle-Bristol-Rovers-predecessors-Paul-Tisdale-Ben-Garner.htmlTo be fair, regardless of whether people like him or not, this was a very ill advised thing to say. As I understand it, neither of the other two said anything but it was noticed higher up the food chain. Makes you wonder why he is continuing to berate others rather than try and motivate the players. Because he's realised they are past saving? Unless Hanlan or Ayunga suddenly start scoring goals then we're clearly now as good as relagated. Perhaps if BG ever gets in the box our brief could ask him to explain why he thought replacing JCH with those two would lead to Rovers scoring goals.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 17:13:14 GMT
Sorry but can't believe people are defending Barton over this. If Tis or Garner are looking for a job then this could massively scupper any job opportunities they go for. Joey wasn't even here at the time. He's seriously got to think and be careful what he says and be more professional. This is a serious lack of class whether true or not and he is dragging our club's name through the mud (as I feared when appointed). When did "class" and JB ever go together? Perhaps the club is learning the hard way that you just can't let JB near a mic without some controls being put in place.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 17:18:09 GMT
Struggling to see what basis of any legal action would be here? He mouthed off in the media and said he’d be willing to explain why he thinks that. Handbags but surely no grounds for legal case. What would be PT and BG response? “We did a great job, actually” 🥴 So if you lost your job would you be happy if your former employers told anyone who spoke to them that you were a liability and if you were a doctor you'd be stuck off? Wouldn't that effect your future employment prospects? I wonder if the NDA's ex managers sign are a 2 way thing, and the club also have to agree they won't publicly criticise the ex manager, as they rarely seem to.
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Post by yetigas on Mar 30, 2021 17:20:00 GMT
Yep, then we can hear about how our new manager only won 2 games out of ten after only winning one out of seven at his previous club due to the refereeing conspiracy, Everest being harder to climb than it looks and the fact Tisdale cut the oranges in quarters not halves after training. Yep, then they'll probably also hear how our new manager took over a Fleetwood side that had finished 14th the previous season and rebuilt it to finish 11th and then in the playoffs the following season, finally leaving the club 10th and just 3 points off the playoffs.. After that they can then hear how Ben Garner took over a team 4th in the table to then limply finish 14th under his guidance. Then the following season, having built his own side, was sacked with the team 18th in the table, with a pathetic 6 wins from 33 games in total during his time in charge. Quite a contrast. Your analysis is disingenuous. When BG was sacked he had lost 3 of the previous 10 games. That suggests to me that he was slowly getting things right. With the same squad, JB has managed to lose 4 on the trot. Its always troublesome when the facts don't support the narrative, but it beggars belief that JB feels its OK to speak out about other peoples failures when he has done a lot worse. If he is the good manager that I am sure he believes he is, he would do well to keep his mouth shut and start getting a few results. People may then begin to listen, but there is nothing in what he has done so far as Rovers manager that has earnt him that right.
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Post by kruger on Mar 30, 2021 17:33:43 GMT
I'm just happy we have a manager who actually cares about us, I love his passion, if we go down which we probably will I will feel so much better knowing Joey is our manager. satire right? no
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 30, 2021 17:38:33 GMT
I'm just happy we have a manager who actually cares about us, I love his passion, if we go down which we probably will I will feel so much better knowing Joey is our manager. satire right? You cynic Barbrady 🤔utg
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Post by RD on Mar 30, 2021 17:41:47 GMT
My Club .... Our Club ... Is the laughing stock of English football. Not just for the dross on the pitch but in the awful way the appalling running of the club is played out in public. It's an absolute tragedy... I want to stay positive but with every passing week i sense I am drifting further away from this Circus. Paul Scally has joined in as well in his letter at Gillingham. He wrote that BRFC were spending beyond its means. Will Wael seek legal advice over this or are we fair game for Scally to single us out? If you can't see the difference then.... well.
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Post by henry on Mar 30, 2021 17:42:08 GMT
When is his court case? Hopefully the authorities will re open Bodmin moor jail and put him there for a couple of years, this Barton Rovers charade has to end before Bristol Rovers sink any lower.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 30, 2021 17:46:10 GMT
Paul Scally has joined in as well in his letter at Gillingham. He wrote that BRFC were spending beyond its means. Will Wael seek legal advice over this or are we fair game for Scally to single us out? If you can't see the difference then.... well. Tbf, in this ridiculous world or legal cases every time someone sneezes - I'm sure Wael could put together a case that his constant singling out of our budget, has meant that players and clubs held out for higher inflated prices, which we couldn't afford meaning we couldn't strengthen in January. We could then sue them for loss of earnings whilst we're in L2. Its ridiculous, but so is Tisdale's law suit here.
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Post by surreygas4 on Mar 30, 2021 17:51:41 GMT
Struggling to see what basis of any legal action would be here? He mouthed off in the media and said he’d be willing to explain why he thinks that. Handbags but surely no grounds for legal case. What would be PT and BG response? “We did a great job, actually” 🥴 So if you lost your job would you be happy if your former employers told anyone who spoke to them that you were a liability and if you were a doctor you'd be stuck off? Wouldn't that effect your future employment prospects? I wonder if the NDA's ex managers sign are a 2 way thing, and the club also have to agree they won't publicly criticise the ex manager, as they rarely seem to. this was my thinking here, you have to wonder if the NDAs are a two way thing and that's the issue here, rather than them being 'upset' over the remarks. Sacked managers obviously agree to silence in terms of securing severance pay and that must go the other way in terms of the club agreeing not to negatively comment on previous managers. JB is representing the club every time he speaks including the criticism of past managers or calling referees overweight and unfit to referee. In terms of the 'damage' done by the comments, I personally Doubt tisdale will struggle to get another job further down the line, BG will probably Get a coaching job (he does have a good reputation as a coach by all accounts) but will surely never manage again!!
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Post by lpgas1 on Mar 30, 2021 18:05:54 GMT
I will be Bartons witness having seen the games under all of them. I suspect he will have the backing of the players, and coaching staff. He is a players manager, not a media one.
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