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Post by Gassy on Mar 30, 2021 18:07:51 GMT
When is his court case? Hopefully the authorities will re open Bodmin moor jail and put him there for a couple of years, this Barton Rovers charade has to end before Bristol Rovers sink any lower. June this year. Not sure on the specific date
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 30, 2021 18:13:55 GMT
I think this whole case is ridiculous and just another chance for the JB Haters to come out and have a field day. It is hardly worthy of a court case to defend comments that are hardly far if any way from the truth. By failing to get in the tools required for the job both Garner and Tisdale were for whatever reasons negligent. It was clear for all to see that Garner provided us with a totally unbalanced team with very few attacking options and very little in the way of a proven goalscorer at this level in them. Tisdale somehow managed to compound the problem by only bringing in a goalkeeper and another full back. Barton now has only those players to work with. Garner and Tisdale have hardly covered themselves in glory and to talk of taking legal action is hardly going to do them any good unless they have somebody else (I wonder who-?) to blame.
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Post by bobbyjones on Mar 30, 2021 18:15:54 GMT
I blame there parents
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 18:26:29 GMT
When is his court case? Hopefully the authorities will re open Bodmin moor jail and put him there for a couple of years, this Barton Rovers charade has to end before Bristol Rovers sink any lower. Are you really a Rovers fans as it seems strange that a Gashead is hoping the present manager is sent to prison, regardless of what you think about him personally.
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Post by henry on Mar 30, 2021 19:01:32 GMT
When is his court case? Hopefully the authorities will re open Bodmin moor jail and put him there for a couple of years, this Barton Rovers charade has to end before Bristol Rovers sink any lower. Are you really a Rovers fans as it seems strange that a Gashead is hoping the present manager is sent to prison, regardless of what you think about him personally. Bodmin jail closed in 1927 and is a tourest attraction so will need quite a bit of refurbishment to take prisoners again.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 19:09:06 GMT
Are you really a Rovers fans as it seems strange that a Gashead is hoping the present manager is sent to prison, regardless of what you think about him personally. Bodmin jail closed in 1927 and is a tourest attraction so will need quite a bit of refurbishment to take prisoners again. You're the strange poster who wants it reopened for Barton not me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 19:24:03 GMT
If you can't see the difference then.... well. Tbf, in this ridiculous world or legal cases every time someone sneezes - I'm sure Wael could put together a case that his constant singling out of our budget, has meant that players and clubs held out for higher inflated prices, which we couldn't afford meaning we couldn't strengthen in January. We could then sue them for loss of earnings whilst we're in L2. Its ridiculous, but so is Tisdale's law suit here. What Tisdale lawsuit?
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Post by oliverhelmet on Mar 30, 2021 19:28:47 GMT
What are you going on about? Seven points from thirty, accusing others of negligence, “they’d be struck off if they were doctors”, pending case for abh, possible defamation case, players are useless, referees are useless, cancer running through club...he’s only been here 5 weeks ffs and there’s something new and totally ridiculous every day. His job is to win football matches, not to give press conferences trying to defend his record which is the worst in the top seven leagues of the English game.I repeat, you need to get your head out of the sand. You are incorrect on 2 points There are only 5 leagues still playing Without looking,I know Walsall and Barnet have worse records than us over the last 10 games,maybe others as well Try chilling out a bit,you seem to be in an endless and permanent rant.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 30, 2021 19:42:32 GMT
I think this whole case is ridiculous and just another chance for the JB Haters to come out and have a field day. It is hardly worthy of a court case to defend comments that are hardly far if any way from the truth. By failing to get in the tools required for the job both Garner and Tisdale were for whatever reasons negligent. It was clear for all to see that Garner provided us with a totally unbalanced team with very few attacking options and very little in the way of a proven goalscorer at this level in them. Tisdale somehow managed to compound the problem by only bringing in a goalkeeper and another full back. Barton now has only those players to work with. Garner and Tisdale have hardly covered themselves in glory and to talk of taking legal action is hardly going to do them any good unless they have somebody else (I wonder who-?) to blame. I'm not a Barton hater but what he said and the wya it was said was not professional or fair. Barton has said way too much since he has walked through the door and needs just just concentrate on the here and now and try and getting results. He seems like he is more concerned at washing his hands of any accountability of anything to do with us getting relegated instead of putting all his efforts in just trying to keep us up. If he did put all his energy into that instead then who knows maybe we will stay up! I expect a lot of our players feel split loyalties as a lot of them have been backed by either Garner or Tisdale or otherwise they wouldn't have been here in the first place!
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Post by henry on Mar 30, 2021 19:43:30 GMT
Bodmin jail closed in 1927 and is a tourest attraction so will need quite a bit of refurbishment to take prisoners again. You're the strange poster who wants it reopened for Barton not me. You say I’m strange! If I was serious i would’ve said Horfield prison or, in your case, Rampton or Broadmoor.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 30, 2021 19:59:35 GMT
I think this whole case is ridiculous and just another chance for the JB Haters to come out and have a field day. It is hardly worthy of a court case to defend comments that are hardly far if any way from the truth. By failing to get in the tools required for the job both Garner and Tisdale were for whatever reasons negligent. It was clear for all to see that Garner provided us with a totally unbalanced team with very few attacking options and very little in the way of a proven goalscorer at this level in them. Tisdale somehow managed to compound the problem by only bringing in a goalkeeper and another full back. Barton now has only those players to work with. Garner and Tisdale have hardly covered themselves in glory and to talk of taking legal action is hardly going to do them any good unless they have somebody else (I wonder who-?) to blame. I'm not a Barton hater but what he said and the wya it was said was not professional or fair. Barton has said way too much since he has walked through the door and needs just just concentrate on the here and now and try and getting results. He seems like he is more concerned at washing his hands of any accountability of anything to do with us getting relegated instead of putting all his efforts in just trying to keep us up. If he did put all his energy into that instead then who knows maybe we will stay up! I expect a lot of our players feel split loyalties as a lot of them have been backed by either Garner or Tisdale or otherwise they wouldn't have been here in the first place! they would have been here whoever's the manager was in preseason. Money and a good contract talked not garners vision
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 30, 2021 20:03:05 GMT
I'm not a Barton hater but what he said and the wya it was said was not professional or fair. Barton has said way too much since he has walked through the door and needs just just concentrate on the here and now and try and getting results. He seems like he is more concerned at washing his hands of any accountability of anything to do with us getting relegated instead of putting all his efforts in just trying to keep us up. If he did put all his energy into that instead then who knows maybe we will stay up! I expect a lot of our players feel split loyalties as a lot of them have been backed by either Garner or Tisdale or otherwise they wouldn't have been here in the first place! they would have been here whoever's the manager was in preseason. Money and a good contract talked not garners vision Why they signed is irrelavent, the fact Garner has shown faith in them alone to sign them in the first place means they should feel some loyalty towards him (if they have any Morals).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 20:03:55 GMT
Tbf, in this ridiculous world or legal cases every time someone sneezes - I'm sure Wael could put together a case that his constant singling out of our budget, has meant that players and clubs held out for higher inflated prices, which we couldn't afford meaning we couldn't strengthen in January. We could then sue them for loss of earnings whilst we're in L2. Its ridiculous, but so is Tisdale's law suit here. What Tisdale lawsuit? Keep up Holmes old chap. It’s been mentioned twice, therefore by gas chat law, is now classed as FACT.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 30, 2021 20:10:20 GMT
If Garner presented evidence that he was a competent football manager using the facts, he would get laughed out the room. I would have been absolutely gobsmacked of he got another managerial role at a league club. He really really needs to look much lower. How anyone Could argue he did a sound job as a manager is beyond me. He has absolutely shafted us with the team he has assembled, they weren't getting any better when he was here after some of his uefa coaching and most are still dire now and very lucky to league footballers.
I sympathise with Tisdale abit and could pardon him, despite not bringing in a striker, I think as a football manager he knows what he is up to, but with the group he had he clearly has absolutely no idea how to get them playing. Combining with poor results and failure to sign a striker absolutely deserved to go at the time.
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Post by Big Jock on Mar 30, 2021 20:30:54 GMT
I seem ta remember a certain fans forum at th Mem after relegation ta th conference where Darrell Clarke threw Wardy under th bus after taking over a side sliding down th division, he also blamed everyone else.
so, was he sayin what needed sayin or denying he was part of th problem? Either way it ended up ok 👍
Nothing to see here IMO. Joey won’t be th first or th last to blame previous managers.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 30, 2021 20:31:29 GMT
Well said Steve K agree with everything u say
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Post by peterparker on Mar 30, 2021 21:04:31 GMT
I seem ta remember a certain fans forum at th Mem after relegation ta th conference where Darrell Clarke threw Wardy under th bus after taking over a side sliding down th division, he also blamed everyone else. so, was he sayin what needed sayin or denying he was part of th problem? Either way it ended up ok 👍 Nothing to see here IMO. Joey won’t be th first or th last to blame previous managers. The difference is that the fans forum was after we were relegated. If i recall correctly, part of DC was saying their were things he wanted to do, or would have done differently had he been manager, but he was assistant and did what was asked and whatever he thought, I dont believe he undermined John Ward in those last 8 games. He did his job to tey and keep us up and he was absolutely gutted when we got relegated. I doubt JB will show anything like that kind of emotion should we get relegated as he has made it clear it will be nothing to do with him as beis firing stuff off, left, right and centre. Be it poor training and coaching by predecessors, poor recruitment, or poor refs and conspiracies I dont think there is anything in any potential legal happenings, but as I said earlier, it's no suprise an outspoken character attracts unwanted attention. His court case in the summer will be 'fun' if he is still here
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2021 21:07:59 GMT
If Garner presented evidence that he was a competent football manager using the facts, he would get laughed out the room. I would have been absolutely gobsmacked of he got another managerial role at a league club. He really really needs to look much lower. How anyone Could argue he did a sound job as a manager is beyond me. He has absolutely shafted us with the team he has assembled, they weren't getting any better when he was here after some of his uefa coaching and most are still dire now and very lucky to league footballers. I sympathise with Tisdale abit and could pardon him, despite not bringing in a striker, I think as a football manager he knows what he is up to, but with the group he had he clearly has absolutely no idea how to get them playing. Combining with poor results and failure to sign a striker absolutely deserved to go at the time. But what manager at any level would have a full scale training session the day before a match? We know those sessions were taking place as Sam Frost reported that the pre-match pressers were moved 'til after 5pm on the Friday's after the sessions had ended.
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Post by gaschat on Mar 30, 2021 21:11:46 GMT
Seven points from thirty, accusing others of negligence, “they’d be struck off if they were doctors”, pending case for abh, possible defamation case, players are useless, referees are useless, cancer running through club...he’s only been here 5 weeks ffs and there’s something new and totally ridiculous every day. His job is to win football matches, not to give press conferences trying to defend his record which is the worst in the top seven leagues of the English game.I repeat, you need to get your head out of the sand. You are incorrect on 2 points There are only 5 leagues still playing Without looking,I know Walsall and Barnet have worse records than us over the last 10 games,maybe others as well Try chilling out a bit,you seem to be in an endless and permanent rant. You are right, I think I’ll take up drinking...again.
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Post by carlts2020 on Mar 30, 2021 21:45:25 GMT
If Garner presented evidence that he was a competent football manager using the facts, he would get laughed out the room. I would have been absolutely gobsmacked of he got another managerial role at a league club. He really really needs to look much lower. How anyone Could argue he did a sound job as a manager is beyond me. He has absolutely shafted us with the team he has assembled, they weren't getting any better when he was here after some of his uefa coaching and most are still dire now and very lucky to league footballers. I sympathise with Tisdale abit and could pardon him, despite not bringing in a striker, I think as a football manager he knows what he is up to, but with the group he had he clearly has absolutely no idea how to get them playing. Combining with poor results and failure to sign a striker absolutely deserved to go at the time. Just out of interest, which players signed whilst Garner was manager do you think are not good enough to be league players? Nicholson? McCormick? Daly? Grant? Martinez? Hanlan?
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