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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2021 15:27:15 GMT
Eastville should have been the Wembley of the West...huge site, road and rail links...as a site it had everything. It could have all been so different. Error after error and opportunity after opportunity missed. Could have been great and I wonder 'what if' we managed to negotiate an extension what the Penrice/Martyn money could have done. All hypothetical though, as we'll never know if things would have panned out the same way. Regardless though, building Tescos was probably the final nail as the owners never really had any interest in us staying iirc. We'd have to have left at some point. Wasn’t the Severnside stadium that never was once touted as the new potential Wembley of the south or is my memory playing tricks on me ? |
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Post by singupgas on Apr 16, 2021 16:07:40 GMT
This debate comes up on a regular basis ,'the green eyed monster' ! If you are measuring status purely by material 'wealth' then there is no debate but there are many ways you can measure 'wealth' richness, and whatever . I know for a fact that fans of other clubs regard Bristol City as 'cash rich' but Rovers as the richer club on many other scales, it is difficult to explain but most Rovers Fans will know what i mean. I have watched rugby at Ashton and i am impressed with the set up but not jealous in any way, yes i would like a better stadium but would be happy with a 14- 15000 redeveloped Mem, enough for our needs imho. Has the material wealth made City Fans happy? well if you listen to them on G/T post match most Saturdays, far from it! they are worse than us lot at moaning! There was one on the other week , so called 50 year fan ,who said it was the worst time ever! really,? they have very short memories, 4th division , bankruptcy and all that! For all there material wealth they are not that far in front of us on the pitch. Someone will no doubt be able to check, but i would not mind betting that take away Cities 5 game winning opening to season and substituting the points average from the rest of the season instead then they would be in, or very close to a relegation place! I am proud to follow Rovers , proud of our fans who stuck with the club through all sorts of 'crisis'. Twerton, National league, and the rest and i do not look across town with envy, but with pity for 'poor little rich kids' who have everything but can not find happiness, up the Rovers! People always feel sorry or take a liking to the underdog, think that is human nature. Surely we are not thinking that it is okay that we are still in stadium not fit because the grass isnt always greener?? We absolutely need a new stadium. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 16, 2021 16:35:31 GMT
Could have been great and I wonder 'what if' we managed to negotiate an extension what the Penrice/Martyn money could have done. All hypothetical though, as we'll never know if things would have panned out the same way. Regardless though, building Tescos was probably the final nail as the owners never really had any interest in us staying iirc. We'd have to have left at some point. Wasn’t the Severnside stadium that never was once touted as the new potential Wembley of the south or is my memory playing tricks on me ? |
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Post by BS6 Gas on Apr 16, 2021 17:12:12 GMT
We should have stuck with the Severnside stadium plans and perhaps even consider a site there now. Plenty of land, superb transport links oh yeah and not any chemical plant or contaminated land in sight. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 16, 2021 17:14:07 GMT
We should have stuck with the Severnside stadium plans and perhaps even consider a site there now. Plenty of land, superb transport links oh yeah and not any chemical plant or contaminated land in sight. Planning permission may not be as difficult now either |
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Post by axegas on Apr 16, 2021 17:19:53 GMT
Not a big fan of the location at Severnside if I’m honest. Would have the feel of one of those just off the motorway in an industrial estate grounds, nothing on being on Gloucester Road.
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Post by legas on Apr 16, 2021 17:38:10 GMT
Swindon Town and Swindon Supermarine ... mind the gap Town* Good point 🤦♂️ |
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Post by Jomo on Apr 16, 2021 17:54:08 GMT
Not a big fan of the loacation at Severnside if I’m honest. Would have the feel of one of those just off the motorway in an industrial estate grounds, nothing on being on Gloucester Road. The Mem is definitely a dump, but I do love the location at the top of Gloucester Road, and would miss that if/when we eventually move away. Sampling the delights of the pubs on the way up, match day, then pub crawl on the way back down. Not many better ways to spend a Saturday! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2021 18:17:20 GMT
our problems began when we sold eastville stadium and ended up paying the greyhounds rent but probably it started before that it has taken generations to overcome this and we havent even recovered from it today! we are fooling ourselves if we think we are a big club big clubs dont sell their best players to survive. JCH was sold because he wanted to move, he wasn't sold so we could survive, given that shortly after he was sold Wael cleared our £20m debts? Although outside the top 4 or 5 Premiership clubs most sell their players when they seek a move. Liverpool may even loose Salah this summer. As far as the OP, the reason the 82er's are now the bigger club is down to Lansdown's money, it's not as if they've grown bigger due to far better support. |
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Post by bobbyjones on Apr 16, 2021 18:50:05 GMT
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 16, 2021 20:28:29 GMT
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Post by pirate on Apr 16, 2021 20:45:20 GMT
It's embarrassing that a professional club in the 7th biggest city in England are playing in such a ramshackle ground in the 21st century that really isn't fit for purpose.
The OP is right, the gap between us and our near neighbours is widening and that will continue to be the case while we play at such a dump of a ground, with neutral families likely to go to Ashton Gate rather than the Memorial Stadium eyesore.
Cardiff, Swansea, Brentford, Hull, Doncaster, Bournemouth, Reading etc etc are all clubs that we regularly used to compete with that have modern stadiums, while we continue to expect families to turn up and spend fotunes to visit a facility that resembles something from a disaster movie. Embarrassing doesn't even come close.
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Post by Kipper on Apr 17, 2021 7:51:10 GMT
I am aged 67, can't see a new stadium being built in my lifetime.
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Post by Kipper on Apr 17, 2021 8:11:14 GMT
Wonder whether the club have looked into building a new stadium near the old Henbury railway station. There appears to be plenty of land available. Oh, i suppose there is always re-thinking Severnside.
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Post by ipswichrover on Apr 17, 2021 8:33:35 GMT
Looking at the history of two club cities, the slightly depressing conclusion is that apart from Manchester, Liverpool (and London) other English Cities are not big enough to support two successful clubs (Sheffield maybe, but not consistently). The two Nottingham clubs were at about the same level until the mid 1950's but County have not finished above Forest for about 65 years. Old folks like me will remember when two Bradford teams competed in lower division mediocrity until Bradford Park Avenue dropped out of the league in 1970. Bradford City then rose to have a spell in the top tier.
Living in one team town, it's interesting to see how businesses and the local press can get get fully behind one club in a way that they can't when there two clubs. The tough truth is that Bristol isn't big enough to support two good teams and City owners would have rubbed their hands with glee if exile in Bath or a period in the conference had led to Rovers' demise. The fact that Rovers are still here with a wealthy owner gives hope but sadly with each year, more kids will choose to be City fans giving a support base advantage that lasts for the life of those new supporters. Time is running out to change that.
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Post by Kipper on Apr 17, 2021 9:48:01 GMT
Bristol is roughly the same size as Liverpool, no problem running two clubs there. Oh, i wish wish Rovers were the Beatles of football world!
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 17, 2021 11:00:06 GMT
Bristol is roughly the same size as Liverpool, no problem running two clubs there. Oh, i wish wish Rovers were the Beatles of football world! People in Liverpool support their local team. In Bristol most people haven’t got the bollox to do that and so support Liverpool too, or Manchester. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Apr 17, 2021 11:30:42 GMT
Berlin.
Note Union Berlin fans helped out with redeveloping their ground and saved a couple of million euros... Just saying
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 17, 2021 16:19:36 GMT
Bristol is roughly the same size as Liverpool, no problem running two clubs there. Oh, i wish wish Rovers were the Beatles of football world! People in Liverpool support their local team. In Bristol most people haven’t got the bollox to do that and so support Liverpool too, or Manchester. I'd imagine Bristolians would support a local team if they were Euro Champions! AG would be a sell out each home game if C1ty ever got to the Premiership. |
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Post by socrates on Apr 17, 2021 16:29:27 GMT
This debate comes up on a regular basis ,'the green eyed monster' ! If you are measuring status purely by material 'wealth' then there is no debate but there are many ways you can measure 'wealth' richness, and whatever . I know for a fact that fans of other clubs regard Bristol City as 'cash rich' but Rovers as the richer club on many other scales, it is difficult to explain but most Rovers Fans will know what i mean. I have watched rugby at Ashton and i am impressed with the set up but not jealous in any way, yes i would like a better stadium but would be happy with a 14- 15000 redeveloped Mem, enough for our needs imho. Has the material wealth made City Fans happy? well if you listen to them on G/T post match most Saturdays, far from it! they are worse than us lot at moaning! There was one on the other week , so called 50 year fan ,who said it was the worst time ever! really,? they have very short memories, 4th division , bankruptcy and all that! For all there material wealth they are not that far in front of us on the pitch. Someone will no doubt be able to check, but i would not mind betting that take away Cities 5 game winning opening to season and substituting the points average from the rest of the season instead then they would be in, or very close to a relegation place! I am proud to follow Rovers , proud of our fans who stuck with the club through all sorts of 'crisis'. Twerton, National league, and the rest and i do not look across town with envy, but with pity for 'poor little rich kids' who have everything but can not find happiness, up the Rovers! People always feel sorry or take a liking to the underdog, think that is human nature. Surely we are not thinking that it is okay that we are still in stadium not fit because the grass isnt always greener?? We absolutely need a new stadium. And they are miles ahead on the pitch , 2 divisions in just a matter of days time. |
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