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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 17, 2021 18:25:42 GMT
Actually I think Upson had a decent spell here in GCs team. With Ogogo and Clarke he was part of a formidable defensive midfield screen. Pretty? No. Effective? Definitely. Apart from that time he has been pretty average to be fair. I suspect today's game was his last for us. The problem being a defensive midfielder is If you sit and protect the defence then you are seen as not doing enough or you pass too much sideways or If you run around a lot then you are seen as playing like a headless chicken and criticised for that. It seems like the only type of midfielder that gets any kind of praise is a box to box one who can score goals and we haven't had too many of those in all the years I have supported Rovers. This. Also why Grant got a lot of stick this year. Not the best of starts for him either but I think we’ve been missing him of late and if he stays he’ll be an important player in our fight to get back into L1 |
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Post by sodburygas on Apr 17, 2021 18:30:42 GMT
When you look at this season the reason we are going down is not Upsons fault at all. It is down to the number of mistakes made by Kilgour, Baldwin ,Harries and Ehmer and add Day and JVS in that and you have the reason together withh only having three strikers -none of whom have many goals in them. That said it must be Upsons last game for Rovers today. I certainly wo9uld not o9ffer him a further contract. No your correct all Kilgours fault. Kilgour told Upson not to track his runner today and let him score. Kilgour then told Upson to put his arm across the players throat and get sent off. Upson has been man of the match every game and will probably end up at Manchester City. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 17, 2021 19:01:42 GMT
At least we might feel more of an emotional attachment to the team. I haven’t connected with the team since the Darrel Clarke conference season. What was wrong with the 15-16 team? |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 17, 2021 19:03:58 GMT
Ed is not the reason we may get relegated. He has had some good moments with us without being the inspiration we desperately need. His sending off today was unfortunate and avoidable but being human we are all capable of making wrong calls from time to time, i am sure he is feeling pretty low at the moment without us all jumping on him. Even i am thinking relegation is likely but i still think the future could be bright for Rovers, we just have to take a step back in order to go forward. I am encouraged and excited by a few players who are coming through and who i expect to make a big impact next season, Mehew, Tomlinson, Martinez, Hoole, Warwick is a very exciting prospect imho, and one or two others. I have been disappointed one or two have not been tried this season ,given our struggles but these players together with JB'S own signings and passion give me hope that good times are just round the corner, this season has been one of the most distressing in my 60 plus years of support but day always follows night and the sun shines again when the storm has gone, we will rise again, up the Rovers! The future will never, ever be bright whilst we play in a decrepit rugby stadium. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 17, 2021 19:08:02 GMT
Ed is not the reason we may get relegated. He has had some good moments with us without being the inspiration we desperately need. His sending off today was unfortunate and avoidable but being human we are all capable of making wrong calls from time to time, i am sure he is feeling pretty low at the moment without us all jumping on him. Even i am thinking relegation is likely but i still think the future could be bright for Rovers, we just have to take a step back in order to go forward. I am encouraged and excited by a few players who are coming through and who i expect to make a big impact next season, Mehew, Tomlinson, Martinez, Hoole, Warwick is a very exciting prospect imho, and one or two others. I have been disappointed one or two have not been tried this season ,given our struggles but these players together with JB'S own signings and passion give me hope that good times are just round the corner, this season has been one of the most distressing in my 60 plus years of support but day always follows night and the sun shines again when the storm has gone, we will rise again, up the Rovers! The future will never, ever be bright whilst we play in a decrepit rugby stadium. True. We are steadily being overtaken by the likes of Fleetwood, Burton and FGR. |
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 17, 2021 19:08:48 GMT
As crap as Upson is. He has not been at fault for goals conceded and has not missed chance after chance. The fault for our current position lays firmly on our crap defenders and strikers and the people that cannot see that they are not up to the job. Nonsense. He’s a complete wet wipe in midfield and gets out fought for everything and has a passing range of a 2 year old. Please explain why and where my post is considered nonsense. |
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Post by piratesfchhh on Apr 17, 2021 19:21:44 GMT
Cheers Ed, hope you enjoy the cash. Feel free to sod off and dont come back.
Never rated him.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 17, 2021 21:41:47 GMT
Full marks to OP for excellent thread title! I still don’t know what to make of that today. I saw it a couple of times and not sure if it was a red or not. Seemed a bit naive for a senior pro. He’s been ok but nothing more for us. I thought he would be a key player for us when he signed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 17, 2021 21:48:14 GMT
Great, another season of hoping kids develop into league players, that work out well this season! As far as Tomlinson he's been around the first team for at least two seasons but never seems to be able to step up to regular 1st team action, I wouldn't be surprised if he's released this summer. Not aware that they have been given a chance, of course you could try signing a load of players from elsewhere ,sure that would would work, oh hang on we tried that this year and we get relegated Mmm! as for Tomlinson , one of the most exciting prospects we have so lets get rid eh? cracking policy that or just plain stupid! How many years as he been "the most exciting prospect we've got"? He's 21 next year so he's hardly a youngster waiting his big chance, Zion Walker is a year younger and has made the break though this season. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 17, 2021 21:53:41 GMT
When you look at this season the reason we are going down is not Upsons fault at all. It is down to the number of mistakes made by Kilgour, Baldwin ,Harries and Ehmer and add Day and JVS in that and you have the reason together withh only having three strikers -none of whom have many goals in them. That said it must be Upsons last game for Rovers today. I certainly wo9uld not o9ffer him a further contract. No your correct all Kilgours fault. Kilgour told Upson not to track his runner today and let him score. Kilgour then told Upson to put his arm across the players throat and get sent off. Upson has been man of the match every game and will probably end up at Manchester City. If Harries had put the ball into the stand Upson wouldn't have needed to track anybody back, as far as the elbow nonsense it's not really clear what promoted it but it was totally out of character for Upson. |
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Post by baggins on Apr 18, 2021 5:35:52 GMT
He can go.
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Post by TAGas on Apr 18, 2021 6:20:28 GMT
Don't think he's half as bad as a lot of gasheads would say. Pivotal in Coughlan's turnaround after DC left even if his first few months were dire. We'd have been down years ago if it wasn't for his contributions that season. This season isn't his fault alone. When Ed leaves I'll remember his whopper of a goal against Southend in the 4-2 second half turnaround. I agree with this. He has lost his way and his time at Rovers is now finished, but he's not as bad as people make out. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Apr 18, 2021 6:28:11 GMT
Nonsense. He’s a complete wet wipe in midfield and gets out fought for everything and has a passing range of a 2 year old. Please explain why and where my post is considered nonsense. Probably the bit where you say “he’s not been at fault for any goals”, reason it’s nonsense is because he’s been at fault for plenty of goals. Quite simple really t bagger. |
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Post by sodburygas on Apr 18, 2021 8:49:20 GMT
No your correct all Kilgours fault. Kilgour told Upson not to track his runner today and let him score. Kilgour then told Upson to put his arm across the players throat and get sent off. Upson has been man of the match every game and will probably end up at Manchester City. If Harries had put the ball into the stand Upson wouldn't have needed to track anybody back, as far as the elbow nonsense it's not really clear what promoted it but it was totally out of character for Upson. So once Harries made his mistake all players should just not bother to do there jobs?. As long as the elbow nonsense as you call it was out of character for Upson then that's fine for him to do it!?. The point I was making is to point the finger of blame at certain players you don't like for the awful season, and clear players you do like of any blame is ridiculous. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 18, 2021 9:07:11 GMT
Not aware that they have been given a chance, of course you could try signing a load of players from elsewhere ,sure that would would work, oh hang on we tried that this year and we get relegated Mmm! as for Tomlinson , one of the most exciting prospects we have so lets get rid eh? cracking policy that or just plain stupid! How many years as he been "the most exciting prospect we've got"? He's 21 next year so he's hardly a youngster waiting his big chance, Zion Walker is a year younger and has made the break though this season. 20 is still pretty young in my book, if you have watched him develop (i am assuming you have watched him in the development squad these last few years in order to make your judgement?) you will have learned from this and from listening to his coaches that the only thing holding him back was 'physical' development and strength which comes at different ages with different young players, Walker has come on more in that department and well done to him for making the breakthrough but he is no where near as talented or creative, hope Lucas , Tom and the rest are not discouraged by the negativity of people like you and continue to work hard to the benefit of Rovers . |
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 18, 2021 9:39:18 GMT
When you look at this season the reason we are going down is not Upsons fault at all. It is down to the number of mistakes made by Kilgour, Baldwin ,Harries and Ehmer and add Day and JVS in that and you have the reason together withh only having three strikers -none of whom have many goals in them. That said it must be Upsons last game for Rovers today. I certainly wo9uld not o9ffer him a further contract. No your correct all Kilgours fault. Kilgour told Upson not to track his runner today and let him score. Kilgour then told Upson to put his arm across the players throat and get sent off. Upson has been man of the match every game and will probably end up at Manchester City. Where have I said it was all Kilgours fault? Earlier in the season most of the goals were caused by either Kilgo0ur,Ehmer or Leahy and then JVS, Day,Baldwin and Harries joined the party. I don't agree that Upson is a poor player but I would not offer him a new contract and therefore yesterday for me would be his last game anyway. The problem with our centre halves is that they ALL have a mistake in them-they can have a good overall game but totally ruin it with a mistake that gives a goal away. The biggest reason we are where we are is the inability of the club to sign a proper League 1 goalscorer. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 18, 2021 10:10:20 GMT
The future will never, ever be bright whilst we play in a decrepit rugby stadium. True. We are steadily being overtaken by the likes of Fleetwood, Burton and FGR. We are indeed - everything is academic , until we either in some way modernise what we already have . Or build a new stadium . I’m not hopeful of either 🤔😩 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 10:11:58 GMT
Upson is not an exciting player to watch, rather one-paced and certainly not the most creative in his passing but that said his experience might be useful in league 2 campaign.
That said, he would need to take a big wage cut before I would offer him a contract. A useful league 2 player at best and his days on £2k or £3k a week are behind him.
Can see there is room for both him and Ogogo in a squad of 20 (assuming squad size restrictions planned still apply).
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Post by oldie on Apr 18, 2021 10:35:35 GMT
True. We are steadily being overtaken by the likes of Fleetwood, Burton and FGR. We are indeed - everything is academic , until we either in some way modernise what we already have . Or build a new stadium . I’m not hopeful of either 🤔😩 There is a degree of delusion of course. For much of the past twenty years have we really been that far in front of any team in L2? We did gain some momentum in 1996 when we moved from a victorian relic of a stadium at Twerton to a half built rugby stadium, albeit one with loads of scope and space for expansion. Except we sold the land for housing development. In 99/2000 we had a team worthy of promotion but let that evaporate by not replacing key players when injured. So here we are 25 years after the move from Twerton in a shambles of a stadium and cursed with a shambles of a team, now relegated. I would put it to you that not only are we not any better than any L2 team on and off the pitch, but barely classifiable as professional. Apart from the amount of money watered up against the wall. Depressing |
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Post by sodburygas on Apr 18, 2021 11:19:45 GMT
No your correct all Kilgours fault. Kilgour told Upson not to track his runner today and let him score. Kilgour then told Upson to put his arm across the players throat and get sent off. Upson has been man of the match every game and will probably end up at Manchester City. Where have I said it was all Kilgours fault? Earlier in the season most of the goals were caused by either Kilgo0ur,Ehmer or Leahy and then JVS, Day,Baldwin and Harries joined the party. I don't agree that Upson is a poor player but I would not offer him a new contract and therefore yesterday for me would be his last game anyway. The problem with our centre halves is that they ALL have a mistake in them-they can have a good overall game but totally ruin it with a mistake that gives a goal away. The biggest reason we are where we are is the inability of the club to sign a proper League 1 goalscorer. Steve K you said the reason we are going down is not Upsons fault at all. So if he is completely free from any blame I wonder who made him do those things in his performance yesterday?. Every player has to take there share of the blame, Every manager, Every person on the board has made mistakes. To name a few players as the reason we are going down and refusing to accept they have all played their part in a awful season is ridiculous. |
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