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Post by bluebiro on Apr 17, 2021 15:39:40 GMT
At least 16 out of contract, including loans. Baldwin, Hanlan, Westbrooke, Ehmer and Harries are all under contract I believe. That’s a big chunk of first team wage bill spent up on a pile of garbage. oh well. That's next season bobbing down and around the trap door.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 17, 2021 15:43:53 GMT
We have 4 or 5 really good players coming through Mehew, Tomlinson, Hoole, Martinez, Warwick, and more, add a few of JB'S signings and couple of this seasons squad and the future is bright, just have to take this on the chin start again , We will be back! Shame a couple of youngsters were not tied this season, up the Rovers!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 15:44:48 GMT
I think TW will be gone, and possibly MS. JB will be having a massive clear out, and those we can't get rid of will be lucky to get a squad number. After bringing JB in, (which won't have been cheap), Wael has to back him financially to re-boot the club.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 17, 2021 15:44:56 GMT
We might need a different reset if joey loses his June court case, not the greatest thing pre season when we try and sign strikers and others.
Tommy needs to walk the pirate plank Asap.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 15:46:27 GMT
We might need a different reset if joey loses his June court case, not the greatest thing pre season when we try and sign strikers and others. Tommy needs to walk the pirate plank Asap. Surely somebody can smuggle in a mobile phone in for Joey, so that he can run the team from his cell?
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 17, 2021 15:51:43 GMT
rememberhalifax, I am no9t convinced about your statement that we have some good players coming through. If they were so good then they would at least have been in the squad. I only see Martinez as being good enough to step up. Phillips and Warwick should both have been pressing to be in the team if they were good enough and looking at the ineffectiveness of the strikers we have used.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 17, 2021 15:55:40 GMT
We might need a different reset if joey loses his June court case, not the greatest thing pre season when we try and sign strikers and others. Tommy needs to walk the pirate plank Asap. Surely somebody can smuggle in a mobile phone in for Joey, so that he can run the team from his cell? He can cheek it in there, and watch on ifollow😂🏴☠️😂 or the judge might say managing us is punishment enough 😂😂
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Post by dragonfly on Apr 17, 2021 16:09:44 GMT
We might need a different reset if joey loses his June court case, not the greatest thing pre season when we try and sign strikers and others. Tommy needs to walk the pirate plank Asap. If JB loses his freedom our season could be seriously de-railed before it starts. Was this possibility considered before he was employed? Yet again we could be set up to fail due to poor decisions and lack of foresight.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 17, 2021 16:16:03 GMT
We might need a different reset if joey loses his June court case, not the greatest thing pre season when we try and sign strikers and others. Tommy needs to walk the pirate plank Asap. Surely somebody can smuggle in a mobile phone in for Joey, so that he can run the team from his cell? Are you suggesting he needs a cell phone? 🙃
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 17, 2021 16:18:06 GMT
I'm a bit surprised some think Barton will walk, listening to his interviews none of them strike me as him being anything other than committed and with Waels full backing. To me he sounds as if he can't wait for this season to be over so he can start again. Major changes ahead I think
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 17, 2021 16:24:36 GMT
rememberhalifax, I am no9t convinced about your statement that we have some good players coming through. If they were so good then they would at least have been in the squad. I only see Martinez as being good enough to step up. Phillips and Warwick should both have been pressing to be in the team if they were good enough and looking at the ineffectiveness of the strikers we have used. I would like to see Mehew get a first team chance again. I know it was a while ago now, but in the couple of pizza cup games he played in I thought he outshone Hargreaves.
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 17, 2021 16:57:22 GMT
Widdrington won't go. He is a director. What planet you on? I just pray Jussi, Sammy, Leahy stay. McCormick will def go. I'd get rid of Hanlan... Ayunga has more promise for me. Ayunga is a good non league player at best. Hanlan is "slightly" better. I would loan them both out and get in 2 new experienced strikers, which we should have done in January, like Burton.
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 17, 2021 16:58:53 GMT
The players have been a disgrace to the shirt this season. Jaakola is a quality goalie but he won’t be here next year. Nicholson has been good in spells but he’s been injured for a lot of the season. Can we afford his wages? Does he want to play in league 2? We’ve paid money for Hanlan so he will be here. It’s going to be hard to shift the players under contract. Who is going to want them? A shocking season. The worst side we never saw Not yet, we are waiting for a tribunal I think. Whatever it is it is too much
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 17, 2021 17:02:06 GMT
If there's one thing this team have shown its that they are not league 1 level. So if we want to get back in to league 1, they all have to go.
Also whoever signed/recommended them needs to get out of the club.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 17, 2021 17:06:23 GMT
If there's one thing this team have shown its that they are not league 1 level. So if we want to get back in to league 1, they all have to go. Also whoever signed/recommended them needs to get out of the club. What’s worse about this relegation compared to others is that nobody has any faith that we can come straight back up. Not with these players anyway. After previous relegations there has always been a lot optimism (as well as a lot of delusion!) that we will bounce back. Not this time though.
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Post by aghast on Apr 17, 2021 17:06:28 GMT
I don't get those who suggest that a reset is just what we need. It's the last thing we needed but it's been forced on us because of incompetence at all levels.
We went through all this in 2014. A huge rebuild had to take place, and it did. Not so long ago, and here we are back in L2, probably. Well almost certainly.
What is there to show for it, five managers later?
Improved club shop and bars. Ok. Training facility being built. A big tick there.
About £22m of debt, or maybe £4m of debt and £18m of capitalised debt, before LJG starts to flick furiously through his well-thumbed copy of 'Accountancy for Dummies'. Call it what you like, Wael will want his money back one day. Or as much as he can extract. He's not a charity.
A very poor and unbalanced squad with a massive rebuild needed.
A manager with no L2 experience.
A stadium crumbling before our eyes, with no prospect of replacing it or even improving it for years to come.
It's all been a wasted opportunity since the playoff final in 2015. We had a chance to progress in the following seasons, and had started that progress, but it's been thrown away and here we are back in L2, worse off than when we were there last time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 17:09:04 GMT
The thing is with Jaak, if he wasn’t out injured for so long I don’t think we would of done as bad. So is he going to be reliable enough next season to stay injury free? Annsi as he get older will take time recover from injuries so if he stays we need as capable no.2 who can step up when required.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 17:11:04 GMT
rememberhalifax, I am no9t convinced about your statement that we have some good players coming through. If they were so good then they would at least have been in the squad. I only see Martinez as being good enough to step up. Phillips and Warwick should both have been pressing to be in the team if they were good enough and looking at the ineffectiveness of the strikers we have used. I would like to see Mehew get a first team chance again. I know it was a while ago now, but in the couple of pizza cup games he played in I thought he outshone Hargreaves. With Upson out for 3 games might give Mehew a chance to show what he can do.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 17, 2021 17:26:22 GMT
rememberhalifax, I am no9t convinced about your statement that we have some good players coming through. If they were so good then they would at least have been in the squad. I only see Martinez as being good enough to step up. Phillips and Warwick should both have been pressing to be in the team if they were good enough and looking at the ineffectiveness of the strikers we have used. We can agree to differ, what i have seen of them makes me believe they are, but there has been a reluctance to play them even though the team has been crying out for flair and creativity , JB took a punt on Martinez and we have a prospect , time to try one or two others imho, with them ,one or two of the current squad and JBS signings would imho give us a good season next year.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 17, 2021 17:27:45 GMT
If anyone thinks we will walk league 2 I have one thing to say........southend
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