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Post by onedaygas83 on Apr 21, 2021 20:00:07 GMT
Get out of our football club now Tommy
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Post by alanrg on Apr 21, 2021 20:02:27 GMT
Well said hear hear
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 21, 2021 20:14:54 GMT
How can he carry on after Joey's comments about the quality of the squad, and that he s got the green light for project restart from wael, and he s in charge of it with no interference.
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Post by aghast on Apr 21, 2021 20:15:35 GMT
Blimey.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 21, 2021 20:19:28 GMT
Edited...
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Post by poorblue on Apr 22, 2021 12:18:34 GMT
What a ridiculous statement, IMO made without any reasonable facts to substantiate sacking the man. As I understand it he is Head of the scouting regime with multiple scouts, statisticians, match video editors etc reporting to him. and as stated by Widdrington he has a file on over 1000 players. There is no way on this earth that he has seen all these players. That list including video clips is presented to the manager. I presume as he stated (there was a job advert a few weeks ago) there are scouts all over the country perhaps 10 - 20 even more who look at all levels of the game from under tens up to the Championship. These scouts watch all level of games, react to reports from team managers and players agents etc ( Nicholson was he scouted in USA or by agents contact? I believe there is an FA list of registered players who are out of work and available to all clubs. Widdrington stated the list only contained players within Rovers reasonable financial constraints. I think a reasonable guess is that many are in the lower age group with a view to the future with released premier/championship league players under 18/21/23 high on the list. How many are first team calibre would be the minority I would say. If the list contained 40 players in each position that's 440 players for a manager to choose from. It then fall on the manager to choose a player from the list accepting the financial constraints put on him by the CEO. IMO it was Garner, lead and supported perhaps by Wael, who fell into the trap of moving too quick into the Peterborough model of buy cheap and sell high! Is that not what Barton has said in his latest interview Up the Widdy
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 22, 2021 12:42:39 GMT
Widdrington works 3 transfer windows ahead. He is currently preparing us for 2nd half of the 2022/23 season.
3 windows ahead, a team of scouts working for him, yet couldnt find a decent striker when we needed one the most...
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Post by alanrg on Apr 22, 2021 13:08:38 GMT
Don’t defend this man it is time for him to go
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Post by Jomo on Apr 22, 2021 13:13:45 GMT
The usual black-and-white blanket "sack him" rubbish without considering the varying nuances and complications involved in the club structure, board structure and contracts of employment.
That said, considering Barton's remarks, it does seem that his position is untenable if Joey is kept on.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Apr 22, 2021 13:20:22 GMT
I cant believe hes still here how head of recruitment! We bottom of the league all but relegated! Hes failed end of story? Shut the door on your way out bye bye 👋 Hows they any other out come is beyond me
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Apr 22, 2021 13:40:08 GMT
Anyone who calls for Tommy's sacking really doesn't understand what his role at the club is.
Firstly he's on the board, so technically isn't an employee who can be 'sacked'.
Secondly, he doesn't decide who we sign. The manager tells him what kind of player he needs, and from his database, he suggests targets who meet the criteria.
How anyone can blame him for our current predicament is beyond me. The buck must stop with the manager who's told him what kind of player he needs.
In my opinion, BG got that completely wrong for a league one campaign, the balance of the squad was all wrong, and once Nicholson got injured we lost what cutting edge we had up front, which was already woeful following JCH's departure.
Signing replacement forwards has always been out Achilles heel, I don't know why.
So TW will be here until he decides to go, and I for one believe he adds a lot to the running of the club.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Apr 22, 2021 13:48:08 GMT
Didn’t tommy say we got enough goals in this squad ? Well he was wrong big wasn’t he ?
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Apr 22, 2021 13:53:46 GMT
Didn’t tommy say we got enough goals in this squad ? Well he was wrong big wasn’t he ? Maybe a bit optimistic, but when he said that, we had Nicholson fit and Hanlan and Kilgour were still chipping in with the occasional goal.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Apr 22, 2021 13:56:50 GMT
Didn’t tommy say we got enough goals in this squad ? Well he was wrong big wasn’t he ? Maybe a bit optimistic, but when he said that, we had Nicholson fit and Hanlan and Kilgour were still chipping in with the occasional goal. a bit optimistic is understatement we are bottom of the league we got no defensive and basically no strike force? And he head of recruitment !
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Post by TugPhase on Apr 22, 2021 14:02:27 GMT
I feel like this thread needs some torches and pitchforks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 14:14:02 GMT
Anyone who calls for Tommy's sacking really doesn't understand what his role at the club is. Firstly he's on the board, so technically isn't an employee who can be 'sacked'. Secondly, he doesn't decide who we sign. The manager tells him what kind of player he needs, and from his database, he suggests targets who meet the criteria. How anyone can blame him for our current predicament is beyond me. The buck must stop with the manager who's told him what kind of player he needs. In my opinion, BG got that completely wrong for a league one campaign, the balance of the squad was all wrong, and once Nicholson got injured we lost what cutting edge we had up front, which was already woeful following JCH's departure. Signing replacement forwards has always been out Achilles heel, I don't know why. So TW will be here until he decides to go, and I for one believe he adds a lot to the running of the club. He is an employee as well as a Director, and can be removed from both positions.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Apr 22, 2021 14:58:00 GMT
“We have enough in the squad to compete with the very best in this division”
Say no more.
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Post by 4d on Apr 22, 2021 17:31:52 GMT
Anyone who calls for Tommy's sacking really doesn't understand what his role at the club is. Firstly he's on the board, so technically isn't an employee who can be 'sacked'. Secondly, he doesn't decide who we sign. The manager tells him what kind of player he needs, and from his database, he suggests targets who meet the criteria. How anyone can blame him for our current predicament is beyond me. The buck must stop with the manager who's told him what kind of player he needs. In my opinion, BG got that completely wrong for a league one campaign, the balance of the squad was all wrong, and once Nicholson got injured we lost what cutting edge we had up front, which was already woeful following JCH's departure. Signing replacement forwards has always been out Achilles heel, I don't know why. So TW will be here until he decides to go, and I for one believe he adds a lot to the running of the club. So if I go to the head of recruitment and ask for a centre back, aged under 30, league 1 experience, leadership experience, strong in the air and able to pass the ball out of defence and they come back with Max Ehmer who takes the blame? The manager isn’t blameless as he has final sign off but if you can’t trust the head of recruitment who has spent hours watching these players and researching them personally, what’s the point in having them? It beggars belief people still can’t see how things work. Widdrington’s main remit was recruiting players and Garners was coaching and developing them and picking the team / tactics. Anyone that thinks Widdrington was just a Head scout needs to ask why his title was changed from head of recruitment to director of football to better reflect the role he was carrying out. Almost all of the players signed you can link back to Widdrington either having formerly worked with the player or having spoken of his admiration of that player at some point. These were Widdrington’s players signed off, naively, by a guy who was content with a role mainly focussed on getting the best out of the ‘hand he was Dealt’ (Geordie Tommy, nov 2020)
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Post by theduke on Apr 22, 2021 17:38:48 GMT
He's gone in a few weeks anyway. Not a chance his balls aren't going to be seared to within an inch of his life once the internal audit of this season gets under way, especially with a coach in Barton who isn't afraid to speak his mind.
I'll give him credit for JCH but how can we overlook the other 90% of signings who have generally underwhelmed? Lets not forget that we shelled out £200k on Stefan Payne under his watch and the lad was bombed out on a free come the end of the season. That alone is enough to speak a serious discussion around his suitability for the role he occupies.
He should never have been promoted to board level. Another example of Wael being badly advised and taken advantage of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 17:45:46 GMT
Anyone who calls for Tommy's sacking really doesn't understand what his role at the club is. Firstly he's on the board, so technically isn't an employee who can be 'sacked'. Secondly, he doesn't decide who we sign. The manager tells him what kind of player he needs, and from his database, he suggests targets who meet the criteria. How anyone can blame him for our current predicament is beyond me. The buck must stop with the manager who's told him what kind of player he needs. In my opinion, BG got that completely wrong for a league one campaign, the balance of the squad was all wrong, and once Nicholson got injured we lost what cutting edge we had up front, which was already woeful following JCH's departure. Signing replacement forwards has always been out Achilles heel, I don't know why. So TW will be here until he decides to go, and I for one believe he adds a lot to the running of the club. He is an employee as well as a Director, and can be removed from both positions. He isn't actually registered as a company director at Companies House.
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