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Post by hardingegas on Apr 30, 2021 22:41:04 GMT
Just hoping we can bounce back from the basement division unlike in 2001/02 under Gerry Francis mk2 when we thought it would be a formality.
Took us six seasons to return to our traditional level.
The only time we've achieved anything similar was from the Conference at the first time of asking.
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 30, 2021 22:44:16 GMT
I’m fairly certain next season we will score more and win more. - 28 GD is pitiful, we will need +20 minimum to go up. That’s a big swing, if JB can find a way to half it that will represent good progress. Keep it real Peeps. If Joey can’t build a side that can at LEAST finish in the playoff positions, in fairness he should sling his hook . I think he will as a minimum but I’m hoping and expecting top 3 . What’s the hurry Yatts, we don’t want to arrive in the Championship before the New Stadium is ready.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 30, 2021 22:45:26 GMT
If Joey can’t build a side that can at LEAST finish in the playoff positions, in fairness he should sling his hook . I think he will as a minimum but I’m hoping and expecting top 3 . What’s the hurry Yatts, we don’t want to arrive in the Championship before the New Stadium is ready. If only you knew what I know 😉
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Post by clearblue on Apr 30, 2021 23:07:48 GMT
What’s the hurry Yatts, we don’t want to arrive in the Championship before the New Stadium is ready. If only you knew what I know 😉 .....little that she knows, that I know, that she knows, that I know she’s cheating on me........
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Post by socrates on May 1, 2021 0:22:07 GMT
How many games do you give him next season to say it's working? Personally I think any manager deserves at least a transfer window and at least 15 games after that to prove himself. It would have to be pretty dire to get rid of a manager after that amount of games sure but that’s why we got rid of Tisdale and should have got rid of a Garner sooner. Barton hasn’t had that chance yet and he might do a DC or he might be crap but he’s got to be given the chance to bring his own in and do it his way. No more excuses now time for him to step up.
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Post by Gas-Ed on May 1, 2021 5:53:35 GMT
Fair play to Joey. He is putting his neck on the line for next season. He won’t have any excuses if we have another poor run of results in league 2.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 1, 2021 7:02:05 GMT
People still want him to fail so they can dislike him Sad isint it - why can’t they just have a little faith in him to deliver next season - get behind him , whether you like him or not ! Utg 💙
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 1, 2021 7:12:12 GMT
I’m fairly certain next season we will score more and win more. - 28 GD is pitiful, we will need +20 minimum to go up. That’s a big swing, if JB can find a way to half it that will represent good progress. Keep it real Peeps. If Joey can’t build a side that can at LEAST finish in the playoff positions, in fairness he should sling his hook . I think he will as a minimum but I’m hoping and expecting top 3 . Big ask but I think he can do it with the right investment. But we need to allow him to rip this squad to shreds and not bemoan him doing it either.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 1, 2021 7:18:19 GMT
If Joey can’t build a side that can at LEAST finish in the playoff positions, in fairness he should sling his hook . I think he will as a minimum but I’m hoping and expecting top 3 . Big ask but I think he can do it with the right investment. But we need to allow him to rip this squad to shreds and not bemoan him doing it either. I'm not disagreeing, but we have just allowed one manager to do a squad change. Its definitely a massive gamble. I still think most of the players are ok, it's the spine and the leadership that's missing. I would only bomb out a handful of players.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 1, 2021 7:23:08 GMT
Big ask but I think he can do it with the right investment. But we need to allow him to rip this squad to shreds and not bemoan him doing it either. I'm not disagreeing, but we have just allowed one manager to do a squad change. Its definitely a massive gamble. I still think most of the players are ok, it's the spine and the leadership that's missing. I would only bomb out a handful of players. I think we need to bring in double digits of players and bomb out the same. A complete swap over is a risk (someone tell Ben Garner that) but this lot have proven to fail spectacularly and have been arguably the worst Rovers squad in living memory. I honestly think if root and branch changes don’t occur we will be risking far more than a full squad overhaul.
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Post by bridgwatergas on May 1, 2021 7:54:48 GMT
What makes you think the money will be there? Indeed. I cannot believe what I reading on this thread What don't you believe?
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Post by playtowin on May 1, 2021 8:32:03 GMT
Strangely he says near enough the same as NP over at city. The way of delivery is different and very much reflect their personality types.
The crazy number of injuries and the way the team conceded late goals but was unable to score them all reflect on how the players fitness levels were not good enough.
It seems at both clubs they are behind the times on the way the clubs are run and the expectations for the players.
Rovers have too many players. A smaller squad is needed ,just adding a few high quality players can make all the difference.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on May 1, 2021 8:37:10 GMT
I thought it was a very good interview, honest and a real determination to put things in place as early as possible for next season. That will be the time to fairly judge him, he's said for weeks he needs a reset and a full pre season with his own squad. Personally I'm quite excited to see what we look like come Aug
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Post by stokegiffordgas on May 1, 2021 8:47:05 GMT
Big ask but I think he can do it with the right investment. But we need to allow him to rip this squad to shreds and not bemoan him doing it either. I'm not disagreeing, but we have just allowed one manager to do a squad change. Its definitely a massive gamble. I still think most of the players are ok, it's the spine and the leadership that's missing. I would only bomb out a handful of players. We'll agree to differ on that one! Janssi, Rodman & Nicholson apart (Mcormick will obviously not return) I'd not trust any of the rest to deliver the level of performance and consistency we need to be successful next season. I understand why Leahy will be kept and acknowledge some are still under contract but for the whole season our ability and concentration have been pitiful. The stats about the last 20 mins of games are damning.
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Post by stevek192 on May 1, 2021 8:56:37 GMT
He fully realises he can't have a complete overhaul and knows what he needs is a new spine to the team but a lot of the players from this season are more than good enough to play in League 2. How many games have we been completely outclassed in League 1 this season? I don't think very many and the annoying thing is how many of those games would have ended in victories if only we had just 2 additions in January ie two strikers. Goals breed confidence and not only that they generally result in lessening the individual errors that have littered our season. I think a sensible approach is required- keep Hanlan, Ayunga and Daly but bring in two new strikers to play up front from the start.Bring in a central midfield player and a winger and two centre halves. This could be done basing on releasing all out of contract players with the exception of Rodman and Leahy and probably transfer listing Ehmer and one of Baldwin, Harries or Kilgour. By what Barton has said it will be interesting to see what happens with Barrett if he returns to training unfit- if he does make the effort we could have a very goo9d player there.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 1, 2021 10:13:26 GMT
Good interview spoken from the heart, sounds like JB is embarrassed to be associated with this kind of failure but is over the sulking and he is getting down to work. His appointment was a bit of a punt by the club but he won me over in his early interviews and i am quite shocked that he has been unable to turn things round , confirmation that the players we signed and were all excited about were not up to the job. I like TW and enjoyed listening to his take on things but at the end of the day if he was responsible for the recruitment of these players then that recruitment process and the criteria for employing players has to change. By that i mean that as well as 'stats' indicating this and that some one has to establish if the potential signings are up for the 'fight' and have the right attitude on a cold wet night in Crewe or the like and are willing to do the hard graft , 3 different managers have been unable to get the right response from the group but i think JB has the knowhow to spot and recruit the right kind of players who can lead us to better days. Some of the present group ,as JB has acknowledged, will be part of that squad, some will leave us to be replaced by JBS signings and perhaps a couple from the development squads, JB has convinced me he is the man to lead us on the road to recovery , he has to get it right , he will have no one else to blame if he gets it wrong now , relegation is not great but its done and we start again with renewed optimism, we must embrace league 2 like DC convinced us to adjust to the National League , quickly or else, luckily for us he knew what was required to get out of it and i hope JB is of similar mind set , up the Rovers!
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Post by oldie on May 1, 2021 10:55:21 GMT
Indeed. I cannot believe what I reading on this thread What don't you believe? Irrational, blind trust. For the attributes being credited to Barton who, as a manager, has achieved near enough nothing. Plus, has an appalling record at our club. Being gobby is no substitute for ability
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Post by gruad on May 1, 2021 11:34:29 GMT
One of the things I hope JB stops doing is being rude to refs and linesman.
If you or I are had up by a copper, aggressively swearing at him isnt going to swing things in your favour. Being polite and apologising, you find yourself let off with a warning more often than not.
Decisions that went wrongly against have cost us points under his tenure.
Remember Clough always had the politest sides.
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Post by peterparker on May 1, 2021 13:48:29 GMT
People still want him to fail so they can dislike him Sad isint it - why can’t they just have a little faith in him to deliver next season - get behind him , whether you like him or not ! Utg 💙 I am behind the team, but will never have any love for Joey The club needs to stick behind him because they have made that bed for themselves with everything prior and including his appointment. I will be honest, I will laugh my ass off if he gets convicted, not because I hate Joey, but because it will be the cherry on top of this clusterfuck of a season
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 1, 2021 14:18:54 GMT
Sad isint it - why can’t they just have a little faith in him to deliver next season - get behind him , whether you like him or not ! Utg 💙 I am behind the team, but will never have any love for Joey The club needs to stick behind him because they have made that bed for themselves with everything prior and including his appointment. I will be honest, I will laugh my ass off if he gets convicted, not because I hate Joey, but because it will be the cherry on top of this clusterfuck of a season Well, I can’t disagree over ‘ clusterfuck ‘ of a season 😩
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