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Post by giles on May 1, 2021 20:11:41 GMT
Hargreaves runs around like a headless chicken not up to standard pity he is not out of contract this summer I can't imagine he's on that good a contract so hopefully he can be paid off, although perhaps L2 might be his level given that Sam Matthews seems to have done OK at Crawley this season. Or perhaps to given an actual chance (along with Liddle and Daly)
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on May 1, 2021 20:14:17 GMT
Although Oz didn't have a good game he was behind our only decent attacks in the time he was on the pitch. He is the type of player who needs to be played in with balls to his feet but our defenders are only up to hoofing the bloody thing. He was in midfield with Hargreaves who can't pass a ball and runs around like a headless chicken and is Bath City standard and Westbrooke who is very similar to Oz and relies on others to win the ball.Harghreaves is neither a ball winner or creative. To blame the Manager is ridiculous ,the blame lies solely with the players who are not good enough and also down to the people who brought these players to the club. I will give my opinion of JB when I have watched HIS team for 10 games which is what every supporter should do. He did a great job at Fleetwood and I have full faith that him and Clint Hill will do a good job here given the chance to build the side. If they don't manage to do what they have said they will do then that is the time when oldies and others criticisms are justified. Fully agree regarding Barton and judging him with his own players but think you're being harsh on Hargreaves. His game is all about energy and pressing imo he's not a defensive midfielder where you need to be a bit more disciplined. His best performances have come as one of the two players behind a lone striker the Sunderland game before lockdown especially. He's a young kid still learning and personally I think he's worth persevering with, he may well be under contract anyway.
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Post by olskooltoteender on May 1, 2021 20:23:21 GMT
Empty words. Devoid of any connection to reality. So the whole team is sh*t, they are going to replace them. What about half of this (at least) one season squad on 2 year contracts? Amateur Hour from our "management (😅) team Mate, give it a rest, eh? You’ve made it painfully obvious how you feel about Barton. We get it.
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Post by giles on May 1, 2021 20:26:24 GMT
Empty words. Devoid of any connection to reality. So the whole team is sh*t, they are going to replace them. What about half of this (at least) one season squad on 2 year contracts? Amateur Hour from our "management (😅) team Mate, give it a rest, eh? You’ve made it painfully obvious how you feel about Barton. We get it. But on the flip side why should people who do not think that Barton is the right person have less right to express opinion. Nobody is saying to you give it a rest, you’ve made it clear that you’re taken in by him
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Post by olskooltoteender on May 1, 2021 20:49:57 GMT
Mate, give it a rest, eh? You’ve made it painfully obvious how you feel about Barton. We get it. But on the flip side why should people who do not think that Barton is the right person have less right to express opinion. Nobody is saying to you give it a rest, you’ve made it clear that you’re taken in by him When was this?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 1, 2021 21:00:19 GMT
Mate, give it a rest, eh? You’ve made it painfully obvious how you feel about Barton. We get it. But on the flip side why should people who do not think that Barton is the right person have less right to express opinion.Nobody is saying to you give it a rest, you’ve made it clear that you’re taken in by him I can't recall there's a constant stream of posters saying Barton's a great manager etc?
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Post by giles on May 1, 2021 21:02:38 GMT
But on the flip side why should people who do not think that Barton is the right person have less right to express opinion.Nobody is saying to you give it a rest, you’ve made it clear that you’re taken in by him I can't recall there's a constant stream of posters saying Barton's a great manager etc? Some people think is the right man for the job others don’t. Everyone is allowed an opinion and to express it when they want
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Post by warehamgas on May 1, 2021 21:54:24 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be!
UTG!
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Post by horfield on May 1, 2021 22:31:59 GMT
In one, Wael is a star struck football fan, he has presided his total control of Rovers by overseeing the worst league record in the history of the club, 14 home games lost and not scoring a goal in 22 games, 27 games in a season lost, giving control over the blue print plan for the future of the club to a man who's heard the clank of a prison door being slammed every night for 6 months. I am grateful to Wael for keeping the club going over the pandemic, I just hope his immediate family are also.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 22:37:18 GMT
To be honest I was out today and totally forgot about the football. What a shame!!😂
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Post by albaron on May 1, 2021 22:57:48 GMT
The guy I was very dissapointed in today was Ben Liddle. He looked Conference North standard at best.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 1, 2021 23:32:26 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be! UTG! I just like a manager to be given an opportunity to play their own players. I've nothing against Tisdale but he did very little transfer business in January then we got raped 6-1 the day after the window ended so that was always asking for trouble. My gloves will be off for Joey by December if things havent turned around significantly though, his players need to hit the ground running...
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 1, 2021 23:49:40 GMT
Anyone would have thought Bolton had got relegated as well
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Post by Congas on May 2, 2021 6:17:37 GMT
Empty words. Devoid of any connection to reality. So the whole team is sh*t, they are going to replace them. What about half of this (at least) one season squad on 2 year contracts? Amateur Hour from our "management (😅) team Mate, give it a rest, eh? You’ve made it painfully obvious how you feel about Barton. We get it. Doesn't look like it to me, lol
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Post by Jomo on May 2, 2021 6:29:37 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be! UTG! It's mystifying to me too. I'm willing to give him a window and a chance next season, but let's be honest his reign so far has been a total car crash. I would suggest that almost any manager in the country would have stood a better chance of securing more points with us than JB has. His management of the existing (imbalanced) squad has been questionable to say the least. It's quite amazing that he has come in and Wael and Starnes have allowed him to completely rip the "DNA" and sustainable development strategy to shreds. Regardless of whether it's the right thing to do or not, quite possibly it is, but it's all quite embarrassing. If it goes wrong then we'll be facing the possibility of a 3rd reset in 3 years, which is exactly "literally" what they said they wanted to avoid when appointing new managers. Total and utter shambles. I hope they all get it right this time, because if they can't stop the rot, we could easily go down again and I can't face that.
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2021 7:04:22 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be! UTG! It's mystifying to me too. I'm willing to give him a window and a chance next season, but let's be honest his reign so far has been a total car crash. I would suggest that almost any manager in the country would have stood a better chance of securing more points with us than JB has. His management of the existing (imbalanced) squad has been questionable to say the least. It's quite amazing that he has come in and Wael and Starnes have allowed him to completely rip the "DNA" and sustainable development strategy to shreds. Regardless of whether it's the right thing to do or not, quite possibly it is, but it's all quite embarrassing. If it goes wrong then we'll be facing the possibility of a 3rd reset in 3 years, which is exactly "literally" what they said they wanted to avoid when appointing new managers. Total and utter shambles. I hope they all get it right this time, because if they can't stop the rot, we could easily go down again and I can't face that. Exactly Jomo Barton's record Played 17 --> Lost 12 --> Drawn 2 --> Won 3 --> Points 11
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 7:18:45 GMT
It's mystifying to me too. I'm willing to give him a window and a chance next season, but let's be honest his reign so far has been a total car crash. I would suggest that almost any manager in the country would have stood a better chance of securing more points with us than JB has. His management of the existing (imbalanced) squad has been questionable to say the least. It's quite amazing that he has come in and Wael and Starnes have allowed him to completely rip the "DNA" and sustainable development strategy to shreds. Regardless of whether it's the right thing to do or not, quite possibly it is, but it's all quite embarrassing. If it goes wrong then we'll be facing the possibility of a 3rd reset in 3 years, which is exactly "literally" what they said they wanted to avoid when appointing new managers. Total and utter shambles. I hope they all get it right this time, because if they can't stop the rot, we could easily go down again and I can't face that. Exactly Jomo Barton's record Played 17 --> Lost 12 --> Drawn 2 --> Won 3 --> Points 11 Give it a rest! We all know your opinion of JB on here by now. However your opinion nots going to change anything, just like the rest of us. Why not sit back quietly about it and hope the court finds in your favour and then no doubt you will be happy and get your wish of the likes of John Sheridan coming in as our new Manager. Or you could do what some of us are going to do, sit back, let the man assemble his own squad and see what happens over ten games of the new season. Then if he fails you can give it the big I told you so and I for one will be willing to come on here and say you were right all along. The only caveat I would add, is that I hope you will do the same if you are proved wrong.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on May 2, 2021 7:24:03 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be! UTG! I'm not sure it's a starstruck thing I think (certainly for me) its a case of not wanting to start again with yet another manager. Yes his record is poor and he's probably said some things publicly that maybe he shouldn't have but do any of us really think he's wrong ? He's had a block of games and obviously knows the players he wants and those he doesn't. Listening to Hill's interview they are already a fair way into the recruitment processes to me starting over yet again makes absolutely no sense at all. Both Barton and Hill have confidently predicted we'll be a completely different side come Aug, I just dont see any sense in starting again with a new management team who wont have any first hand knowledge of the players
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 2, 2021 7:37:33 GMT
Sad times, spose I better take th Xmas tree down now, said I wasn’t taking it down til we’re safe , but enough is enough 😔 Leave it up for another year?
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 2, 2021 7:42:22 GMT
I’m not suggesting that JB should be sacked, I always give managers longer than most do, but I’m not a big fan and find it strange that after this awful run (with awful players that he hasn’t recruited) JB seems to get a better reception on here than Tis did. JBs record is awful. If anyone else had had that record and we were bottom of the table and the last 6/7 displays were as poor as they’ve been most on here would be calling for their sacking. Yet JB seems to get away with it. I just wonder if people are as starstruck with JB as Wael seems to be! UTG! Exactly that. Tisdale had a chance to change things up and rubbed his face up and down and came out with nothing. We didn’t want him to sign Lionel Messi (or in our case, Jayden Stockley) just a handful of players to keep us up. He chose to sulk and sign no one as he didn’t get his man. I was behind him until this point but even I begrudgingly had to withdraw my support. He shat on us from great heights with his negligence. Tisdale and subsequently Joeys form makes Garner look like Alex Ferguson and give his apologists fodder but a big part of the problem is we didn’t have either the squad depth or the individual player fitness to handle a normal season let alone one as mad as this one. Results were better under Ben but were performances? I think we scraped the barrel of luck and got a few results despite looking just as awful as we have done as the season has gone on. A big difference for results though is the ever declining lack of belief and ever increasing pressure. The circumstances were massively different come February to that of September where the camp was probably full of belief and optimism. Can’t blame Joey for struggling here. We got dicked regularly under Garner and Tisdale. Whilst we haven’t got the wins and draws we needed under JB we’ve been in the game more with the exception of the odd moment of madness. We have only had convincing wins, in my opinion, under JB and Tisdale, notably Accrington and Wimbledon. That’s why I’m giving him my backing.
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