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Post by kruger on May 13, 2021 12:29:28 GMT
“Last year, the pre-season wasn’t done at the correct intensity, so that will be laid at Ben Garner’s door and it will be tough for him to argue that," he said.
“Whoever put the team together and recruited the personnel, I think the buck stops with you as the manager and that will rightly be laid at his door. I don’t think he can have an argument with that. He put this group together, I gather. Him and Tommy Widdrington, and they’re just miles off the level as the league table shows.
“I’m forward now. Anything from this moment on is me, so anyone who comes in or leaves the building is my responsibility. The buck will stop with me, which is fantastic.
“The owner is a superb guy, he wants the best for the football team, he really, really does, and he’s been let down by people he has put in positions of influence.
“Any of them want to gripe or send their lawyers to send me a letter as they did last time when I outed them, no problem. I’ll show you all the footage if you want, I will release all their training data, their training footage and you’ll see it and say, ‘God.’
“They should be struck off, I told you that at the time and I will tell it to their face when I see them.”---- These comments are just an embarrassment and smacks of unprofessionalism and deflection. No class whatsoever. He is saying what is on his mind, he is also saying if they want they can go and talk to him, personally I like the fact he is out spoken and says it like it is
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Post by mftc on May 13, 2021 12:30:38 GMT
Manse is a hero at this club, but could the decision just be simply that Tom Parrinello is a very good coach of young players?
He had survived several "culls" so must be doing something right.
Plus as a nearly man, perhaps he can use his own example to encourage the youth/development players to put in the extra 10%.
Always thought it strange that Parrinello, Manse and Byron all had very similar jobs this season.
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Post by alanrg on May 13, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
He is only telling the truth should have been said a while back
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 12:36:54 GMT
Manse is a hero at this club, but could the decision just be simply that Tom Parrinello is a very good coach of young players? He had survived several "culls" so must be doing something right. Plus as a nearly man, perhaps he can use his own example to encourage the youth/development players to put in the extra 10%. Always thought it strange that Parrinello, Manse and Byron all had very similar jobs this season. The U18s embarrassingly lost to Camberley Town in the FA Youth Cup this season. Camberley were beaton 6-0 in the following round to Sutton United.
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Post by singupgas on May 13, 2021 12:41:44 GMT
“Last year, the pre-season wasn’t done at the correct intensity, so that will be laid at Ben Garner’s door and it will be tough for him to argue that," he said.
“Whoever put the team together and recruited the personnel, I think the buck stops with you as the manager and that will rightly be laid at his door. I don’t think he can have an argument with that. He put this group together, I gather. Him and Tommy Widdrington, and they’re just miles off the level as the league table shows.
“I’m forward now. Anything from this moment on is me, so anyone who comes in or leaves the building is my responsibility. The buck will stop with me, which is fantastic.
“The owner is a superb guy, he wants the best for the football team, he really, really does, and he’s been let down by people he has put in positions of influence.
“Any of them want to gripe or send their lawyers to send me a letter as they did last time when I outed them, no problem. I’ll show you all the footage if you want, I will release all their training data, their training footage and you’ll see it and say, ‘God.’
“They should be struck off, I told you that at the time and I will tell it to their face when I see them.”---- These comments are just an embarrassment and smacks of unprofessionalism and deflection. No class whatsoever. He is saying what is on his mind, he is also saying if they want they can go and talk to him, personally I like the fact he is out spoken and says it like it is I agree, but unfortunately people accept mediocrity and are just happy to have e something to do on a Saturday afternoon. I want to see the club I support perform and challenge each season. Not in business for just taking part.
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Post by peterparker on May 13, 2021 12:50:55 GMT
“Last year, the pre-season wasn’t done at the correct intensity, so that will be laid at Ben Garner’s door and it will be tough for him to argue that," he said.
“Whoever put the team together and recruited the personnel, I think the buck stops with you as the manager and that will rightly be laid at his door. I don’t think he can have an argument with that. He put this group together, I gather. Him and Tommy Widdrington, and they’re just miles off the level as the league table shows.
“I’m forward now. Anything from this moment on is me, so anyone who comes in or leaves the building is my responsibility. The buck will stop with me, which is fantastic.
“The owner is a superb guy, he wants the best for the football team, he really, really does, and he’s been let down by people he has put in positions of influence.
“Any of them want to gripe or send their lawyers to send me a letter as they did last time when I outed them, no problem. I’ll show you all the footage if you want, I will release all their training data, their training footage and you’ll see it and say, ‘God.’
“They should be struck off, I told you that at the time and I will tell it to their face when I see them.”---- These comments are just an embarrassment and smacks of unprofessionalism and deflection. No class whatsoever. He is saying what is on his mind, he is also saying if they want they can go and talk to him, personally I like the fact he is out spoken and says it like it is There is telling it like it is, and making a point, you can say things aren't or wern't good enough in his opoinion BUT saying things like NEGLIGENT and THEY SHOULD BE STRUCK OFF is slanderous. He may well be right, but you can't just throw accusations like that around
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Post by garythegas on May 13, 2021 13:02:38 GMT
“Last year, the pre-season wasn’t done at the correct intensity, so that will be laid at Ben Garner’s door and it will be tough for him to argue that," he said.
“Whoever put the team together and recruited the personnel, I think the buck stops with you as the manager and that will rightly be laid at his door. I don’t think he can have an argument with that. He put this group together, I gather. Him and Tommy Widdrington, and they’re just miles off the level as the league table shows.
“I’m forward now. Anything from this moment on is me, so anyone who comes in or leaves the building is my responsibility. The buck will stop with me, which is fantastic.
“The owner is a superb guy, he wants the best for the football team, he really, really does, and he’s been let down by people he has put in positions of influence.
“Any of them want to gripe or send their lawyers to send me a letter as they did last time when I outed them, no problem. I’ll show you all the footage if you want, I will release all their training data, their training footage and you’ll see it and say, ‘God.’
“They should be struck off, I told you that at the time and I will tell it to their face when I see them.”---- These comments are just an embarrassment and smacks of unprofessionalism and deflection. No class whatsoever. These comments are very likely true and I would think echo many supporters view after this shambles of a season. Fair play to him I say.
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Post by 1986gashead on May 13, 2021 13:04:05 GMT
Joey’s revolution is given me horrible flashbacks of Paul Buckle’s time here, completely new squad, new management staff, and when he was ousted and chanted off the pitch, McGhee and Ward did their best out of the ragass under contract players Buckle bought in. His “revolution” wouldn’t have been so bad if half the players he signed would have been good enough. Smith, Brown, Carayol and a couple of others were good players but we had Anthony and Virgo at CB, Zebroski up top with an old man and nobody worth calling a midfielder in the squad. Surely Barton can sign better..... can’t he?? Haha
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 13:05:05 GMT
He is saying what is on his mind, he is also saying if they want they can go and talk to him, personally I like the fact he is out spoken and says it like it is There is telling it like it is, and making a point, you can say things aren't or wern't good enough in his opoinion BUT saying things like NEGLIGENT and THEY SHOULD BE STRUCK OFF is slanderous. He may well be right, but you can't just throw accusations like that around Seems like 'not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility' was quite apt. i.e. negligent.
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Post by axegas on May 13, 2021 13:17:45 GMT
He is saying what is on his mind, he is also saying if they want they can go and talk to him, personally I like the fact he is out spoken and says it like it is There is telling it like it is, and making a point, you can say things aren't or wern't good enough in his opoinion BUT saying things like NEGLIGENT and THEY SHOULD BE STRUCK OFF is slanderous. He may well be right, but you can't just throw accusations like that around Exactly, it’s sometimes not what you say but the manner in which you say it. You can be outspoken and passionate without making claims that deliberately bring others into disrepute. I fear we’ll be the team other clubs want to beat next year with Barton saying whatever he likes in pre match and post match interviews. He’s written other clubs pre match talks on occasion this season and certainly hasn’t made any friends.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 13:21:45 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol.
Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me.
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Post by alanrg on May 13, 2021 13:28:47 GMT
He is not here to make friends
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Post by bluegas on May 13, 2021 13:44:30 GMT
[quote timestamp="1620910255" author=" peterparker" source="/post/746756/thread" I fear we’ll be the team other clubs want to beat next year with Barton saying whatever he likes in pre match and post match interviews. He’s written other clubs pre match talks on occasion this season and certainly hasn’t made any friends. I think we'd be the team to beat with or without Barton.
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 13:49:06 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particular the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression.
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Post by RD on May 13, 2021 13:50:58 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. Indetical to Trump in that sense Jomo - the answer (for most) is nothing... he can say what he likes.
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Post by carlts2020 on May 13, 2021 13:53:53 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Did we have any of those records prior to Barton?
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Post by Langford Gas on May 13, 2021 13:56:51 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. I get the impression JB is a journalists dream, a classic case of leave a silence and he will fill it. Only after the event he probably thinks i should not of said that !
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Post by garythegas on May 13, 2021 13:56:59 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. Something that is not true.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 14:01:39 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. Saying things that are obviously true isn't one of them, that's for sure.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 14:04:26 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Did we have any of those records prior to Barton? You put this sh** together and had a pre season. On reflection you should have been sacked in the summer and not been allowed anywhere near it after woefully taking us from 4th to 14th.
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