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May 13, 2021 14:11:19 GMT
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Post by carlts2020 on May 13, 2021 14:11:19 GMT
Did we have any of those records prior to Barton? You put this sh** together and had a pre season. On reflection you should have been sacked in the summer and not been allowed anywhere near it after woefully taking us from 4th to 14th. Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them.
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Post by peterparker on May 13, 2021 14:16:24 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. I don't think anything will go very far, but that is beside the point you can't just fire off accusations like negligent in any line of work. As I say he might be right but he could easily make the same point without potentially bringing more trouble on himself
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 14:16:28 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. I'm okay with most of what he's said, because we've needed somebody who will be taken notice of to shine on light on the inadequacies at the club. It's been like the Emperor's new clothes for too long, people can see what's going on but don't want to draw attention to it.
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Post by garythegas on May 13, 2021 14:18:21 GMT
Did we have any of those records prior to Barton? You put this sh** together and had a pre season. On reflection you should have been sacked in the summer and not been allowed anywhere near it after woefully taking us from 4th to 14th. Do you really think carlts2020 is the most useless, clueless, disastrous and well qualified (living in cloud cuckoo land) manager we have ever had?.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 14:20:33 GMT
You put this sh** together and had a pre season. On reflection you should have been sacked in the summer and not been allowed anywhere near it after woefully taking us from 4th to 14th. Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them. 4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster.
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May 13, 2021 14:33:05 GMT
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Post by carlts2020 on May 13, 2021 14:33:05 GMT
Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them. 4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. You could look at the stats or you can keep rambling like a drunken old fool....
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May 13, 2021 14:36:21 GMT
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Post by Jomo on May 13, 2021 14:36:21 GMT
Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. I'm okay with most of what he's said, because we've needed somebody who will be taken notice of to shine on light on the inadequacies at the club. It's been like the Emperor's new clothes for too long, people can see what's going on but don't want to draw attention to it. I appreciate what you're saying Tilly, but my point is not what he's said as such, but the fact that he's saying it in public, which can be seriously dangerous for people's well being and professional careers. For example, if he kept it all behind closed doors, surely it would still result in the necessary action being taken, but without inciting unnecessary further anger and/or prejudice against others, that already face the consequences of their poor performances, by getting sacked/released.
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May 13, 2021 14:36:22 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 14:36:22 GMT
4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. You could look at the stats or you can keep rambling like a drunken old fool.... I'm 36 and tee total. You idiot. 😂
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May 13, 2021 14:37:47 GMT
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Post by carlts2020 on May 13, 2021 14:37:47 GMT
Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them. 4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. Just for the record JB took Fleetwood from 14th to 11th, 4 more points than his predecessor after signing Ched Evans et al. Don’t hold your breath.
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May 13, 2021 14:38:31 GMT
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Post by carlts2020 on May 13, 2021 14:38:31 GMT
You could look at the stats or you can keep rambling like a drunken old fool.... I'm 36 and tee total. You idiot. 😂 “Like” a drunken old fool. Slow down and read properly.
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May 13, 2021 14:39:32 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 14:39:32 GMT
4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. Just for the record JB took Fleetwood from 14th to 11th, 4 more points than his predecessor after signing Ched Evans et al. Don’t hold your breath. ...And then into the playoffs the following season. Both finishes something you can only dream of. 😆
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May 13, 2021 14:41:07 GMT
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Post by lavalamp on May 13, 2021 14:41:07 GMT
If only football was linear, then stats may actually mean something for Garnerballs perceived 'success'.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 13, 2021 14:49:30 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Did we have any of those records prior to Barton? We came bloody close to matching longest period of not scoring / not winning in Garners first season did we not? The fault lines were appearing when Joey was still managing another club.
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Post by yattongas on May 13, 2021 14:58:46 GMT
Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them. 4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. Amazing revisionism by Pirate who was the biggest advocate for Garner getting the job in the first place 😉
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May 13, 2021 15:02:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:02:57 GMT
4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. Amazing revisionism by Pirate who was the biggest advocate for Garner getting the job in the first place 😉 Not really amazing, admitted he was wrong quite sometime ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:04:22 GMT
Did we have any of those records prior to Barton? We came bloody close to matching longest period of not scoring / not winning in Garners first season did we not? The fault lines were appearing when Joey was still managing another club. People conveniently forget his first season disaster.
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Post by pirate on May 13, 2021 15:04:27 GMT
4th to 14th, then put together a squad of your own to then get sacked in 18th. Abysmal. Be surprised if you ever work as a first team manager again and feel sorry for anyone daft enough to employ you after proving to be an utter failure. At least the current manager has shown he is capable of rebuilding a side after a previous managers 14th place finish, unlike you and your disaster. Amazing revisionism by Pirate who was the biggest advocate for Garner getting the job in the first place 😉 Had the foresight to change my mind though and admit my mistake.
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Post by yattongas on May 13, 2021 15:07:02 GMT
Amazing revisionism by Pirate who was the biggest advocate for Garner getting the job in the first place 😉 Had the foresight to change my mind though and admit my mistake. Ah ok , must of missed that . Fair play .
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Post by falsenumber9 on May 13, 2021 15:13:09 GMT
Let's see how far the legal action goes then, my guess is not very far. Lol. Going into the season with only three first choice strikers and then failing to add to our attacking options in January, resulting in a club record amount of games without scoring and club record home defeats, with the worst goals scored stats in the last 15 minutes and joint worst goals conceded stats in the last 15 minutes, and then getting relegated, seems like not being careful or giving enough attention to people or things that are your responsibility to me. Genuine question, what would Barton have to do or say in order for you to say "hang on, that's too much"? Evidently people are very split on what they consider to be acceptable behaviour in the press, but for Barton in particularly the line seems to be drawn in a different place, simply because of who Barton is? Maybe I'm wrong on that but it's my impression. The words sheep and blind spring to mind. It's incredible how so many are willing to get behind his every ego-driven word.
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Post by helpliner on May 13, 2021 15:19:43 GMT
You put this sh** together and had a pre season. On reflection you should have been sacked in the summer and not been allowed anywhere near it after woefully taking us from 4th to 14th. Seriously. Do a review of where we were under Garner, Tisdale and Barton for all the stats you raised above. I’ll be surprised if Barton doesn’t have the worst record for all of them. You love statistics so your man won 6 games out of 36. Extrapolated over a full season that would mean less than 8 wins out of 46 games.
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