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Post by titchthephot on Sept 12, 2021 17:30:35 GMT
It shouldn't be the fans that are a laughing stock but it is. That's the way it is. Had the Teds got JB as a manager we would derided and mercilessly taken the mickey out of them. JB is the cause of all our problems. I hate him because he is a nasty piece of work but he is now showing his total lack of ability as a manager.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 12, 2021 17:43:49 GMT
When are our supporters going to learn that there comes a time where you have to stick with what we have? It seems now that any defeat starts a certain group off and all it provides is criticism of the players we have with no regard whatsoever for the opponents or the actual performance. Yesterday is a fine example of this with criticisms of for example the defenders when we restricted a team with 100% home record to a handful of chances and yet there is criticism of three of the four defenders when our keeper has only had to make one difficult save in 95 minutes and the only goal conceded was due entirely to a mistake by Saunders, In my book none of the defenders deserved less than a six and the defending was far better than that in the win over Crawley! The sign of a team that has not gelled is where individuals look reasonable but together they are not producing enough and I feel that is the position we are in at present. Personally I would totally scrap the ideal of playing one up front because we don't have enough goals in the team to back up the lone striker, We have tried this all season and it just isn't working. Sadly our supporters have reached the stage IMO where they are driving players away from the club and the most evidence of this was in Hanlon who could have been a handful this season especially alongside a Clarke or a Pitman. I feel there are signs that we do have some good players who are all more than capable of playing at League 2 at the least and most at League 1 level. I actually thought that Whelan looked very disciplined and composed in the first half yesterday and Finley and Evans both had a good first half too. Anderson has shown signs of being a good winger and Nicholson is obviously class. I also thought Brown when he came on looked a useful player. For me the only disappointments individually so far have been Coutts, Rodman, Collins, Thomas and Saunders and this IMO has been the big problem because three of those four are strikers. I do actually think they all have ability and we really need them to start to show their true ability and I amn sure things will improve. We have to decide who we are going to play up front and give them a chance to from a partnership and the same goes for the wide and midfield positions. Personally I would go for Nicholson to play upfront with Pitman and then a midfield 4 of Evans, Finley, Whelan and Anderson or Thomas. This team should be more than capable of playing top0 end League 2 but if we keep changing it everyweek it will never gel. Belshaw Grant Taylor Hughes Brown Anderson or Thomas, Whelan, Finley,Evans Pitman, Nicholson. If we didnt appoint a bellend of a manager who immediately splits the fan base then peopleight be more supportive. As it is. Even if we were all supporting him 100 % or he had us top of the divsion he could be getting convicted in a few weeks and sacked because of that. Hardly a great situation is it A problem of the clubs own making
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Post by Russgas on Sept 12, 2021 18:09:31 GMT
Steve if none of the defenders deserved less than a 6. Then why did you only rate Anderton a 5.5 ?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 12, 2021 18:16:52 GMT
Disagree with o p.
Anyone whom pays their way is entitled to their view, no matter how much diametrically opposed to SteveK, especially for those whom paid yesterday for one of the longest away days of the season.
To call them a laughing stock is patronising.
Frustrating times for all of us, but turning on fans is undignified and not the way forward.
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 12, 2021 18:57:40 GMT
Our fans are the only thing that are consistently great about the club.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 12, 2021 19:07:14 GMT
We became a laughing stock the day groaner was appointed to destroy the club.will take 5years to get us back to the day before that clown walked through the door in dec 2019. Your usual anti-BG drivel. Far more likely that we became a laughing stock when he was sacked as things were improving. Even more so if Swindon beat us in a few weeks.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 12, 2021 20:53:33 GMT
We became a laughing stock the day groaner was appointed to destroy the club.will take 5years to get us back to the day before that clown walked through the door in dec 2019. Your usual anti-BG drivel. Far more likely that we became a laughing stock when he was sacked as things were improving. Even more so if Swindon beat us in a few weeks. I can't recall any fans laughing at us when we sacked Garner, most asked why he ever got the job in the first place and why he wasn't dismissed during the summer, something fans are also asking about JB, it you want to refresh your mind just look at the OTIB "dustbin" thread as that'll probably show you what the 82ers were saying when BG was finally dismissed, they were most likely gutted at the time rather than laughing.
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Post by wutangkillerbees on Sept 12, 2021 21:57:02 GMT
Steve if none of the defenders deserved less than a 6. Then why did you only rate Anderton a 5.5 ? Oh snap
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Post by albaron on Sept 12, 2021 22:06:49 GMT
It shouldn't be the fans that are a laughing stock but it is. That's the way it is. Had the Teds got JB as a manager we would derided and mercilessly taken the mickey out of them. JB is the cause of all our problems. I hate him because he is a nasty piece of work but he is now showing his total lack of ability as a manager. So it was JB that took us from 4th in the table to a near relegation place that season was it ? If it was he must have had his bloody work cut out managing both us and Fleetwood at the same time.
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2021 23:41:01 GMT
It shouldn't be the fans that are a laughing stock but it is. That's the way it is. Had the Teds got JB as a manager we would derided and mercilessly taken the mickey out of them. JB is the cause of all our problems. I hate him because he is a nasty piece of work but he is now showing his total lack of ability as a manager. So it was JB that took us from 4th in the table to a near relegation place that season was it ? If it was he must have had his bloody work cut out managing both us and Fleetwood at the same time. No, but Barton did take over with us outside the relegation zone in League One and presided over a pathetic 3 wins in 18 games, 0.61 points per game, failing to score in 11 out of his 18 games and abysmally finishing rock bottom of the table 10 points adrift of safety.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 13, 2021 5:26:28 GMT
I'm a fan, turn up to support every home game, and the few away games, laughing stock? Insulting to say the least. I've seen your cardigans. Laughing stock is being kind.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 13, 2021 6:43:24 GMT
Your usual anti-BG drivel. Far more likely that we became a laughing stock when he was sacked as things were improving. Even more so if Swindon beat us in a few weeks. I can't recall any fans laughing at us when we sacked Garner, most asked why he ever got the job in the first place and why he wasn't dismissed during the summer, something fans are also asking about JB, it you want to refresh your mind just look at the OTIB "dustbin" thread as that'll probably show you what the 82ers were saying when BG was finally dismissed, they were most likely gutted at the time rather than laughing. I have no interest in OTIB and never look at it. Don't intend to start now, but thanks.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 13, 2021 7:54:19 GMT
So it was JB that took us from 4th in the table to a near relegation place that season was it ? If it was he must have had his bloody work cut out managing both us and Fleetwood at the same time. No, but Barton did take over with us outside the relegation zone in League One and presided over a pathetic 3 wins in 18 games, 0.61 points per game, failing to score in 11 out of his 18 games and abysmally finishing rock bottom of the table 10 points adrift of safety. Exactly this, and yet some still don't seem to think that was his fault, because he didn't have a transfer window. A good manager gets the best out of the players at their disposal. JB hasn't done that in his tenure yet, in fact he's fallen way way short of it.
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 13, 2021 9:39:15 GMT
"Our supporters are becoming a laughing stock" Goes perfectly well with what has been served to them for the past 20 months or so by the managers and players. On the 21st December 2019, we drew with Peterborough and sat 2nd in L1. Since then, we have... Played 67 league games. Won 13. Drew 13. Lost 41. Scored 52. Conceded 104. Won 52 points from a possible 201 points available and have the goal difference of -52. We have dropped from 2nd in L1 to 21st in L2. Was 46th out of the 92 league teams but now 89th of 92. We have got new club records for the wrong reasons such has games without goals and games lost and lack of points won. We haven't won in our last 19 away games. Our current managers league stats are P25 W5 D3 L17 18 points from a possible 75 points. But apparently, it's our supporters who are becoming a laughing stock. Great and terrifying post. We are quite simply on a one way train to oblivion based on these stats. Literally in long ish term free fall. Even my low end expectation of 46 points and scraping L2 survival is optimistic based on this. I think all fans should be rightly worried until we see a sustained improvement in results. How can that make us a laughing stock?
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Post by Squiffy on Sept 13, 2021 9:47:18 GMT
Great and terrifying post. We are quite simply on a one way train to oblivion based on these stats. Literally in long ish term free fall. Even my low end expectation of 46 points and scraping L2 survival is optimistic based on this. I think all fans should be rightly worried until we see a sustained improvement in results. How can that make us a laughing stock? BG must have brought a few of those big cans of WD40 with him.
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Post by titchthephot on Sept 13, 2021 10:11:09 GMT
It shouldn't be the fans that are a laughing stock but it is. That's the way it is. Had the Teds got JB as a manager we would derided and mercilessly taken the mickey out of them. JB is the cause of all our problems. I hate him because he is a nasty piece of work but he is now showing his total lack of ability as a manager. So it was JB that took us from 4th in the table to a near relegation place that season was it ? If it was he must have had his bloody work cut out managing both us and Fleetwood at the same time. But it was JB who gave up on us when we still had a chance of survival in Div 1!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 13, 2021 14:34:44 GMT
You're right stevek192 some of our supporters are a laughing stock. I recall one of them in particular constantly criticising DC when he was in charge. Sometimes fans just don't know when they've got it good.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 13, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
It's the little things too that we don't do well.The club's main site still showing ;Hanlan,Barrett and Liddle with squad numbers.Just wish we were better at things generally as we are falling behind other clubs big time. Saw that Chelsea women play at AFC Wimbledon's old ground.Must be nice to just buy a stadium for the ladies to play their home games in. Still ,Chelsea we ain't but just wish we did the little things better.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2021 15:00:43 GMT
It's the little things too that we don't do well.The club's main site still showing ;Hanlan,Barrett and Liddle with squad numbers.Just wish we were better at things generally as we are falling behind other clubs big time. Saw that Chelsea women play at AFC Wimbledon's old ground.Must be nice to just buy a stadium for the ladies to play their home games in. Still ,Chelsea we ain't but just wish we did the little things better. Chelsea financed a big part of Wimbledon's new ground by buying their old training ground.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 13, 2021 16:36:47 GMT
We need eye of the tiger back. Then success will come
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